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Where do I report a website that carries child pornography? I am an artist who frequently uses Google image search when I need a quick photo reference to draw from. Tonight when I did a search for "child" Google suggested "Child Model" and when I picked this suggestion I came across some really unpleasant search results. Lots of very, VERY young girls wearing next to nothing and posed in sexual positions. Most of the offending photos where from the same site. Most of them looked like they were under 13, some looked as young as five. They were all wearing clothes and posed in ways that I as an adult woman would not be caught dead in. Some of them where wearing g-strings, and what I would consider lingerie. I looked into reporting it but I don't know were to begin. The only site that made sense was cybertipline.com, which is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, but the only form they have to fill out is one for missing children only. On top of that, The site appears to be based in France, with most of its links and banners going to Russian, Asian, and South American sites, so there may be international issues as well. Where can I report internet exploitation? I also worry that nothing can be done since they are not actually nude. Is it still considered exploitation if they are only dressed and posed provocatively? A lot of the banners on their site seem to lead to even more explicit material, (I see a few XXX's) so even if this site is legal (heaven help us if its legal) I am 99% sure it links to much more illicit sites. What should I do? Mike R, yes, many of them are illegal, and this one would be especially, since it links to actual nudity and displays the girls in a way that is overtly sexual. Also, if you bothered to read my question, you would see that Russia is not the only country involved.

how are sites dedicated to children in their underwear legal? Ok I was looking into modeling for my 4 year old daughter (like the how cute is your kid contests) and I decided to take my research to the internet like most people. upon searching I came across many many disturbing websites dedicated to "child modeling" if that's what you want to call it. These were all of children in their underwear and little tube tops in what can be viewed as sexual poses. Some were even labeled as non-nude preteen modeling. What the hell? How are these sites legal? I have already decided that I am not going to subject my child to this smut and whatever hopes my wife had of getting her in any beauty pageant are gone, I am just wondering now how these sites stay up and running. Is it not viewed as harmful to the children? How can they post "non-nude preteens" and not automatically get shut down? I do not understand this at all. I posted another question a few days ago on the same topic if you would like to view it http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?…

How disturbing is this to everybody? Alright.. everyone knows child pornography is illegal and everyone hates it and it is so disgusting, but what about some of those teen and underage modeling sites depicting young girls (under 17) in skimpy bikinis posing suggestively, or on top of another young female and they are both smiling, or pre-teens all over each other in a bath tub, or all soapy and clinging to each other. Another example is a picture of a girl standing up and her shirt is up to her chest area, showing her tummy and wearing short shorts, or another picture of a pre-teen with a towel covering her nude body so they are not showing her breasts or vagina. Those kind of things make me wonder.. are some child/pre-teen/teen modeling websites the legal version of child pornography? Are they getting away with more then we notice? All of these sites have a legal notice. And they are all similar in what they say. "All the content found on (site name) does not contain any nudity or sexually explicit material. All content is artistic, non-nude and all images have been checked to assure appropriateness for appearance on this site." Little by little, they will be bridging the gap between child porn and child modeling. It will take a while, but thats the plan, don't let people notice, one year a pre-teen model is waving at a camera on a beach in a bikini. People will say "Thats fine, the picture looks nice." The next year, it will be a different model on a beach with her finger in her mouth "Oh, so cute" The next year a model on a beach with a smaller bikini And the next year, less bikini more skin, more suggestive, but hey! It is not sexual, she isn't nude or having intercourse, so we can't be sued! Maybe I am crazy for thinking this but I want your opinions.. any thoughts on this issue?

How to get into Alternative Modeling? Best Locations? Best Agencies? I used to be a child model [My mom don't ask] Then we moved, and Now I am almost 18. I have been dye-ing my hair crazy colours since I was in middle school-etc, but right now I have turquoise hair and my head is shaved on the side. When I've mentioned this to other people online about my interest for alternative modeling they sortof snicker and say-you can't just be an unfashionable mass of trip pants and black-But I am not, I wear thigh highs and massive heels and like studded jackets and similar tops-I have my own style. I would really appreciate some sites etc. Thank you.

Legal Porn Sites - Free? Had enough of the crap sick stuff. There are so many sites out there. The ones I find all say that all models are over 18 and is in compliance with the law, yet you click on some of the pictures and I get a warning saying that the site is blocked because of digital child exploitation. Dont get me wrong I am glad they are blocked but the pics and sites were perfectly legal. So what the hell is going on have these so called legal sites been hacked? Am I going to get into trouble for ending up on the NZ DCE page, when I have not been looking for that stuff. I like clean porn nothing over the top just health 18 plus only models. So if there are other free sites that do not link to that crap please let me know.

Overprotective mom?Sex?Im almost 15?10 points!!!!!!? I turn 15 in October, and my mom is very overprotective. Last Janurary, I overdosed (it wasnt very serious) but she sent me to Vista Health (mental hospital) and I stayed there for 6 days. I was super pissed and so in Feburary, I snuck out to a party and almost ended up having sex with a 17 year old guy (ive known him FOREVER though) I told him that I wasnt ready so we didnt, but I felt really guilty and told my cousin about, and then 2 weeks ago she decided to tell my parents and the rest of my family. Now my older brothers and dad are PISSED and really upset with me, my mom took my to the doctor yesterday to get tested for STD's and started me on birth control && I have to get 4 shots I know that one of them was a gardisil shot..i cant remember the rest. but she grounded me and took away my ipod and phone. Im not allowed to talk to ANYONE except for her and my therapist.She pulled me out of public school, so now I have to do online schooling; she's using this new software called SafeEyes, so the only sites I can go to are Keystone (online school) & educational sites. EVERYTHING else is blocked, so I have no way of contact with anyone. Once im ungrounded she said she is going to monitor everything. my web history,chats, and she wants my facebook password and she has to be RIGHT by me whenever I use facebook/email/twitter, etc. Shes gonna read my texts, limit how much music and what music I listen to,what I watch on TV (she thinks Americas Next Top Model is "inappropriate" and "crude" and "vulgar" ) Im not allowed to go to sleepovers, or anywhere else unless she is right next to me the whole time.even on a date.she said its gonna be that way until im eighteen and out the house. Im seriously losing my social life, and now that im homeschooled, I have no way out of this hell hole but to run away, and Im seriously considering it.my parents are divorced, but my mom has full custody of me. everytime i try to talk to her about having more freedom (ive been a good kid ever since the whole sex thing) she says "im the adult and your the child!" and then leaves so i cant respond. i know she loves me, but im literally going insane. please help. Thanks everyone<3

Should employers be allowed hold employees accountable for what's on social networking sites? Do you think employers should be able to hold employees liable for social networking sites like myspace or Facebook? There's been a lot of stories in the news lately about employers checking employees Facebook/Myspace pages and issuing disciplinary action or badgering employees based on what the find. Aside from pics and such that show illegal activity, do you think this should be legal? I ask this because I had an incident of this happening at the human service agency where I work. A friend who had added me to their top friends on myspace had a picture of a marijuana leaf as the background of his page. I hadn't even known about what was on the page until a co-worker who saw it told my supervisor and then I found out about it. Anyway, my supervisor proceeded to lecture me about how having my image on the same page as a pic of a marijuana leaf calls into question my personal ethics, professionalism, and my ability to serve as a role model. I was told that I had to delete the person as a friend so that my image would no longer be on that page. (For the record, I'm against any form of recreational drug use, but respect others' opinions on the issue) Do you think an employer should be allowed to make an issue of something like this? To clarify the role-model comment my supervisor made, I work with mentally ill adults, not children or teens.

Does anyone know the value of Matchbox Models of Yesteryear or where i could find out? 3 models in boxset include the following: 1. Red fire engine, Rolls Royce. Matchbox code Y-6 I did alot of web browsing and all the sites say in came with a brown ladder, although mine in white. Mint Condition 2. The Eagle Pencil Co. Van. Matchbox code Y-25 Colour blue, Mint Condition 3. Harrods Ltd. electric van. Matchbox code Y-29 Colour cream on top, dark green below. Mint Condition ALL 3 models as said are mint condition and look as they were just bought yesterday. The box is still in very good condition. History - I was given the boxset as a birthday or christmas present when i was a child by my grandparents, early 1980's i presume. Even as i child i never played with them, they always remained with the box.

What's wrong with my laptop? Hi, I just purchased a Dell Inspiron 17 model this last Christmas, meaning I've had this laptop for 8 months, it runs on Windows7. I'll admit I'm a heavy user of the computer, I use it for internet surfing and I run photoshop on it almost daily. Lately, I've been having a few problems. First, the computer kept insisting that it needed to run "chkdsk" and about three times it interupted my usage to warn me that "chkdsk" needed to be ran. Then it began at every start up. It would still let me use the computer, and even with running chkdsk, there was nothing wrong with the disk. By browsing forums, I figured out how to make it stop asking about chkdsk and it seems my problem has gone away....not Occasionally I've heard the hard drive click. Not badly, and not often. Once a week or less. Many people say the clicking is a "bad omen" but i'm not understanding why, this laptop is brand new and top of the line And just now, during usage, my laptop shut off with a black screen saying "No bootable devices found" press f1, f2, or f5. I was in the middle of something important, so I just shut off the laptop and restarted it just fine. There was also an occasion where it was giving me the blue screen and once it was just beeeping and beeping! it wouldn't stop, it was really loud too. And lately I've been noticing the laptop randomly beeps. no it is not coming from my speakers it is a beep from inside. it's just one little beep. its not often that it beeps but lately its been getting worse. its like a little chirp. I'm wondering if I should send the laptop to Dell. I do not want to be without a laptop though I am currently working on a project for work and my laptop is needed for this project. Does anyone also happen to know how many weeks Dell will take my laptop? I've read horror stories of Dell making the laptops in worse condition then before. I am sending it to Dell because I am in the 1 year warranty, and they will fix it. I will also note that I have not caused this in any way. I do not download crazy junk everyday, i don't visit pornography sites, i have a scheduled virus scan that has never found a single virus on this. This laptop has also never been dropped or put through any "extreme" conditions. There is no external damage, if anything this laptop is my first child. Plllllease help <3 (:

Do you think people take what happens on youtube too personally? I know that the internet is a powerful networking tool, and a lot of things that happen online(like death threats) should be taken seriously, but do you think people take the actions of "youtube personalities" too seriously? For starters most people do not know who most of youtubes most subscribed are, and would probably not recognize them on the street. Do you think certain users take them too seriously? I mean I know people who get angry when they feel a personality is "being fake", but actual celebrities are "fake" all the time. It's a persona created for the camera and ties in with art, expression and escapism. It's a way for people to get away from reality. Plus it's not like you are going to reveal every intimate detail of your life online. Most of these people are doing it for fun, and most of these accounts start off as people just having fun/doing something they like. I know a lot of the "most subscribed" users are paid by youtube and receive compensation, my thought is "so what" with the current state of the economy, I don't know who wouldn't take a free item or tickets to an event, or eben compensation. Plus most people with sponsors are quite honest about it. I think the beauty community is hit the hardest with hate, because so many of the beauty gurus receive free items, I have even seen a pseudo hate site called "guru gossip" where users (presumably women) bash popular youtube users in the beauty community. I know there is a right to freedom of speech, but why would someone make a website for hating others. My main point is if you don't like it don't watch it. These top users are everyday people like me and you, they are not answers to social ills or potential role models for children, they are just people having a bit of fun.

as of last week... my brother is gay... how this happen? as of last week... my brother is gay... how this happen? its awkward, I mean I'm no homophob but this is just weird. he has a boyfriend for christ sake, I use to look up to him. My dad walked out on me when I was four and since then he became what my father should have been he taught me how to fight when guys bullied me, he taught me how to get women to go out with me because of him i met the woman of my dreams and the mother of my child, now he's gay. What did he wake up one day and just decide he likes guys. he use to sleep around with every type of woman there was hell if I made of a list of things I would not expect to see before I die him turning gay would be at the very top. The only people who know are me, my girlfriend and his boyfriend obviously. After 19 years i'm down a roll model...sigh...f%#k. I need a drink. he doesn't want me to tell are mother, believe me I'm in no rush to enlighten her to her eldest child's new found way of being. my girlfriend isn't helping she's like a damn cheer leader for gay rights she thinks I'm overreacting, yeah well when her dad abandons her and her older sibling who she looked up to for as long as she can remember turns gay then she can talk to me, but until then she can go on being 17 and pregnant. How did this happen? seriously I'm asking i'm not being a jerk i really want to know. first question i ever ask on this goddamn site and it had to be this.

Is it me or is it him? Hi everybody! It's actually the first time in my life i'm doing something like this but this is really bothering me and I don't want to ask anyone I know personally. I need your help please. Is it normal for a guy who says he is completely committed in a relationship, talking about marriage and children to do the following: (I have mentioned only three good examples) > He will be working on the laptop in front of the TV, very involved with his work but the moment a couple of hot girls/or just one appears for example in an add, his attention glues to the tellie until it finishes. Then back to the laptop. > For him to tell me that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a guy to not look at a Hot/Beautiful woman and they can't look just once and look away. They can't help to look twice or maybe more but according to him twice is the standard. > We want to get married and googled "Court Marriages". He clicked on the first link and when the page opened there was a link on top of the Court Marriage page about 15 000 Ukrainian girls looking for husbands. When he read the link, his reaction was....."15 000?" Then he said, "sorry my girl but I have to go into this site quickly". The site came up and obviously there were pictures of the girls, also showing that they are online and willing to chat. He was so "surprized", as if he has never in his life heard about something like this. I asked him if it's the first time he has heard of this and he said "no" but he said he didn't know it was that many. My reply to him was, that to me it looked like he just wanted to see what the girls looked like and he admitted it. He even committed on one saying: "Look at her, she is beautiful why would she look for a husband like this?" Don't get me wrong I love honesty in a relationship but the problem is not the honesty it's the fact that it seems he gets so excited about average looking/good looking women that you would think he is 15yrs but he is 30 turning 31 in three months. Not to sound vain but I have always had reactions on my looks and have done some modeling as well. It's not the looks part that is bothering me. I used to be the girl amongst my friends to pick out and flirt with the attractive guys, always making comments when I see a hunk and always getting the man I wanted to want me but I don't do that now because i'm respecting our relationship and him. Yes my head will turn to a pretty face but I look once and then I look away. Is it to much to ask for him to do the same? How do I talk to him about this because he doesn't make it very obvious but I notice it and it hurts. Should I talk to him about this? Is it just me being silly? I don't want him to think that i'm trying to change him and i'm not but i'm worried that this will escelate in the future, like all matters do. It's starting to have an effect on me and it will eventually cause me to not give my all emotionally. Pls take into consideration that I moved thousands of miles for this man, we have a history of 9 years but not together all that time because i lived abroad. This is not just a thing that I want to turn my back on and leave but I don't know how to deal with the matter. bm

Why are children these days so ungrateful? (I tried to post the question with the link byt YA wouldn't let me so I had to post the content here.) PARENTS planning day trips during the summer holidays have been sent a message from the kids. Don’t bother. Almost 70 per cent of students say they hated family days out as youngsters and wished their parents had left them to amuse themselves. Top of the hate list were visits to the Natural History Museum (or any museum) closely followed by days out in Blackpool or Bognor Regis and, almost as bad, trips to see distant relatives. Only a quarter of 1,200 students polled in a survey claimed to enjoy family days out. For 42 per cent the journey was the worst part of the trip, but 18 per cent blamed lack of “fun things to do” at their destination. And 12 per cent said they would prefer to be surfing the internet. Many students claimed that boredom had been to blame for any childhood sulkiness. Nigel Whiteoak, manager of online auction site TeleBid.com, which undertook the research, said yesterday: “It quickly became evident that more would prefer to stay at home and do their own thing than enjoy a day out with the family.” He added: “I have to confess I am one of the few who used to enjoy day trips to Blackpool with my family in the summer.’’ Life coach and youth worker Joseph Clough said: “This research shows that, despite attempts to ensure quality time spent with their children, parents are falling short and weakening their bond with them by enforcing time together.” Ten most hated day trips 1 Natural History Museum 2 Blackpool 3 Bognor Regis 4 Visiting relatives 5 Weston-Super-Mare 6 Stonehenge 7 Warwick Castle 8 Model villages 9 Nature parks 10 Garden Centres

Kids' storage racks recalled after death? Back to Story - Help Kids' storage racks recalled after death Fri Nov 16, 9:31 AM ET Some 36,000 Chinese-made children's storage racks sold at Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N) in the United States were recalled after a baby was suffocated by an overturned rack, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission said on Friday. The wooden storage rack, manufactured for Irving, Texas-based Jetmax International Ltd, has three levels and nine removable canvas totes, the safety agency said. One model has red, blue, yellow and green canvas totes, and another model has pastel-colored canvas totes. An 8-month-old boy suffocated after he pulled on a storage rack and it fell over on him, with the top rail landing on his neck, the government agency said. Wal-Mart sold the storage rack organizers under the brand "Home Trend Kids" from August 2004 through July 2005 for about $40, the agency said. The product was also sold at Ollie's stores from July 2006 through June 2007. Consumers should immediately stop children from using the recalled storage racks and contact Jetmax International to receive a free repair kit that adds stability to the base of the rack, the agency said. The CPSC posted photographs of the recalled item on its Web site at http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08085.html

Kids' storage racks recalled after death? Back to Story - Help Kids' storage racks recalled after death Fri Nov 16, 9:31 AM ET Some 36,000 Chinese-made children's storage racks sold at Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N) in the United States were recalled after a baby was suffocated by an overturned rack, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission said on Friday. The wooden storage rack, manufactured for Irving, Texas-based Jetmax International Ltd, has three levels and nine removable canvas totes, the safety agency said. One model has red, blue, yellow and green canvas totes, and another model has pastel-colored canvas totes. An 8-month-old boy suffocated after he pulled on a storage rack and it fell over on him, with the top rail landing on his neck, the government agency said. Wal-Mart sold the storage rack organizers under the brand "Home Trend Kids" from August 2004 through July 2005 for about $40, the agency said. The product was also sold at Ollie's stores from July 2006 through June 2007. Consumers should immediately stop children from using the recalled storage racks and contact Jetmax International to receive a free repair kit that adds stability to the base of the rack, the agency said. The CPSC posted photographs of the recalled item on its Web site at http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08085.html just wanted to let parents know

Should this man receive a European award for his services to Child welfare? This is from a poster on the Sky website. TODAY IN BRUSSELS: A business man discovered he was going to be at the European Parliament while the conference was going on. He got his secretary to print out a hundred leaflets, then he stood outside the conference room and handed them out. He got a very positive response and is meeting with some journalists later (at their request.) This is what the leaflet says: On 3rd May 2007, Madeleine McCann disappeared from her parents’ holiday apartment at Praia da Luz in Portugal. Her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, had left her and her two younger siblings in an unlocked apartment that evening, as they had done every evening of their holiday, in order to enjoy an alcohol-fuelled dinner at the resort Tapas bar, well over a hundred metres away. From the bar, they were unable to have a clear line of sight to the apartment where Madeleine was. They left them unattended, despite their Mark Warner holiday resort offering babysitting services and evening supervision of children. They claim to have checked on them every half an hour. Yet the statements of the parents and their companions to the police about their movements that night are full of contradictions and obfuscations. The very instant that Kate McCann discovered that Madeleine was missing, she and her husband Gerry insisted that she had been abducted. Yet there is little evidence that Madeleine was abducted from the apartment. Since May 2007, there has been an ongoing investigation by the Policia Judiciária, the Portuguese police (PJ), into Madeleine’s disappearance. The investigation is currently headed personally by Paulo Rebelo, the respected national deputy director of the PJ. According to information in the Portuguese press, Paulo Rebelo and his team have concluded that the evidence for an abduction is minimal, and that in all probability Madeleine died in the holiday apartment. Their conclusions are based on forensic and other evidence, including evidence collected through the use of UK police sniffer dogs trained in the discovery of cadaver odour. The dogs used by the Portuguese and British police are the same ones which discovered concealed remains in the recent Jersey children’s home case. On the basis of police evidence and investigations, the parents of Madeleine were constituted suspects (or “arguidos”) by the Portuguese police in September 2007, and then immediately left Portugal for the UK, following police interviews in which they refused to answer key questions put to them by the Portuguese police. They have not returned to Portugal since then. This week (April 7th-11th 2008), a top-level team of the Policia Judiciara, led by Paulo Rebelo himself, are in the United Kingdom, conducting interviews together with the police of Leicestershire. They are interviewing the companions of the McCanns on the fateful evening, the so-called Tapas 7, because of inconsistencies in their original statements to the police last spring. The Portuguese police suspect that the Tapas 7 are being untruthful in their evidence, and that they have knowledge of what happened to Madeleine that fateful night. The McCanns personally, and through their media spokesman Clarence Mitchell, have worked hard to discredit the Portuguese police, calling into question their competencies and motives, and insisting that Madeleine remains alive and that the police should be searching for her. The Policia Judiciária are not actively searching for her because they have concluded internally that she has in all probability been dead since May 3rd 2007. The McCanns have set up a special fund, based on the thesis that Madeleine is alive and needs to be searched for, and which to date has collected over a million pounds (1.5 mln Euro) in donations from the public and libel fees obtained from the Express Newspaper Group. Among the mission statements of the Fund is the aim “to provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.” Over the last year, the McCann parents have increasingly aligned themselves with lobbying for the Amber Alert system, in place in the US, to be introduced on a Europe-wide basis. They are positioning themselves as global ambassadors for missing children. As they continue their campaign, many questions need to be asked. They include: • Why have the McCanns not taken full responsibility for the disappearance of their daughter? Surely what they should be doing is campaigning on the theme of “Do not leave your children unattended in unlocked apartments, whilst you enjoy alcohol-fuelled dinners at a distance where you cannot observe them, as we did”. • Why have they undertaken a campaign to discredit the Portuguese police, and invested hundreds of thousands of pounds into funding private investigators of dubious reputation (Metodo 3), to maintain the public belief that their daughter is alive? Should they not instead be co-operating in answering the questions of the PJ? • Why have the McCanns hired, at great expense, top lawyers in the UK and US on matters of extradition, libel and criminal evidence? These include Kingsley Napley, whose Michael Caplan QC fought efforts to extradite General Pinochet from the UK; Carter-Ruck, the UK's most expensive libel lawyers; and Hurley, Burish & Stanton in Madison, Wisconsin, USA, specialising in debunking sniffer dog evidence in criminal trials. Are these the typical actions of parents of missing children? • Why are the supporters of the Amber Alert system aligning themselves with Kate and Gerry McCann, who remain official suspects (“arguidos”) in an ongoing police investigation, jointly conducted by Portuguese and British police forces? Are these the right role models for ambassadors in the cause of missing children? There are many more unanswered questions about the disappearance of Madeleine and the activities of her parents since May 2007. The McCanns and their spokesman Clarence Mitchell are working hard to suppress these questions and the debate around them, including having successfully closed down the The Mirror Group internet discussion forum, and forced (via libel proceedings) the Express Group to remove from its internet sites every article that they had published about the McCanns and the Madeleine case since May 2007. The only crime of the internet fora and the Express Group was to republish and comment on stories appearing in the Portuguese media. Thankfully, it is still possible to debate the McCann case freely and ask the questions that the McCanns, their spokesman, and their expensive lawyers have sought to suppress. If NO, why not ? Katie, the price was paid by Madeleine Beth McCann as a direct result of her parents actions, there is ONLY one victim, a little girl, neglected by her parents, lost by her parents, trademarked by her parents. Money taken from a fund to find her, to pay their mortgage by her parents.....

Ron Paul-Cesar Millan: The Dream Ticket fora good change? Ron Paul-Cesar Millan: My Dream Ticket by Linda Schrock Taylor by Linda Schrock Taylor DIGG THIS I realize that Cesar Millan, The Dog Whisperer, not having been born in the United States, cannot actually run for VP. But please, do let me dream. Ron Paul should be the presidential choice of every person who loves the United States of America; every person who respects the Constitution, the Republic, the Promises, and the Philosophies upon which this nation was founded; of every person who wants an economically, educationally, Freedom-secured future for themselves and their children. There is no other who can hold a candle to Ron Paul, who is the most intelligent, principled, disciplined man I have ever met. There is no other I would send in his stead. Dr. Ron Paul is a true Statesman; most certainly not a 'politician'. Cesar Millan is my choice for Vice President because---if any nation on Earth is out-of-control; living in a dangerous 'red zone'; gravely in need of Discipline, Boundaries and Limitations, it is today's United States of America. The Constitution must again become the "Leader of the Pack" and everyone --- everyone --- must recognize and respect its Authority. Cesar, a man with astute insights into the behaviors of both creatures and humans; a teacher recognized as a proof-in-the-pudding authority on instilling Discipline, Boundaries, and Limitations, is the individual whose services are desperately needed in these most desperate of dog-eat-dog times. Consider the Presidency: How can the 'leader' of a republic expect or demand any respect from a citizenry that he has effectively gagged, discounted, abused, and minimalized? As we all have watched in horror, this (not)leader further destroys the honor of the office, and corrupts the Rights, Freedoms, and Input of the populace. He is out-of-control with his kingly dictates, demands, and direct orders. He is no leader-of-the-pack and only his blind and faithful few find anything about him, his decisions, about his actions, to be worthy of respect. He is not a leader; he is a bully. He is running off-collar and out-of-control. He is the 'red zone' and so very dangerous to the survival of our pack; of our America. Ron and Caesar, to the rescue! The Supreme Court clearly demonstrates a lack of Discipline, Boundaries and Limitations, as it methodically removes all Discipline, Boundaries and Limitations from a hedonistic, mis-educated, ethically-challenged populace. The Supremes write legislation (not their job!); dictate cultural trends (pushing the culture ever closer to Sodom, Gomorrah and a similar meltdown); give workers' retirement money to children and others who have never worked (Thieves!); condone the slaughter of the unborn (the future taxpayers); and much, too much, more. The Supremes pave the way for Evil while abdicating their constitutionally defined roles. This current system of Checks and Balances has checked our Rights, and put our nation totally out of balance--ethically and economically. The Supreme Court Disease is rapidly spreading, claiming millions of victims. We need Dr. Paul to effect a cure and stem the tide. Congress is completely out of control; a crazed pack, feeding in a frenzy upon the weaker members of the Republic (The taxpayers). There is more to be said about Congress, and endless examples to be sited, but frankly, I do not have the stomach for it. It is incomprehensible that so many citizens have been satisfied to shrug their shoulders and do nothing. America needs the Wisdom and the Discipline of Ron Paul and Cesar Millan. The Department of Education is worse than worthless. It is dangerous. It exists in a red zone of its own creation, The Department serves to destroy hope, potential, skills, scholarship, thought, inventiveness, national literacy, minds...and the lives of the American people. Unfortunately, this animal is beyond help and must be 'put down'. We must move swiftly to euthanize this creature; to make, and keep, America safe. The People must again be free to establish and live in a just and humane society, made up of just, rational, educated, thinking adults acting as leaders should; teaching young people to follow in great footsteps. To refer to the death of the Department of Education as "a mercy killing" would be an understatement of unbelievable proportions. It is imperative that we act to protect the children of America; to treat those who have already been harmed and molested; to insure that never again will a child be 'bitten' by such a destructive, poisonous, inhumane beast. State governments...no longer understand, let alone demand and defend, States' Rights. The individual states allow federal looters (beginning with the current president), as well as their state officials, to rape, rob, abuse, threaten, misinform, under educate, and otherwise harm citizens. When states lack the will and the guts to protect their citizens from beasts on a rampage, those states broadcast proof of their own lack of discipline, boundaries, and limitations. States weaken under threats from the big, bad Feddies. Once upon a time, an honorable, and very enlightened former Michigan Secretary of State refused to ask citizens for social security numbers (under the federal pretense that they were needed for drivers' licenses). She assured the people of Michigan that should she ever need the numbers, she certainly would not pass them on to the Federal Bullies. She fought hard, but eventually lost the battle when the Feds threatened her: if she persisted in her refusal, federal support for Michigan's schools would end. (Wait a minute! That money was ours to begin with! We send our money to Washington, even though the federal government should never be involved in local schooling decisions, then the States must practically prostitute themselves to get any of it back. States have the Right to keep the feds on a short leash, but their knees turn to jelly in the face of federal threats. States have become fearful and weak, and as Cesar has taught us, weak and fearful animals are the ones most likely to bite. Dr. Paul can stop the bleeding and treat the bites, while Cesar gets those tails out from between states' legs, and attempts to help the 50 animals grow a backbone. Local governments...ignore the wishes and needs of the People, while handing the citizens, their possessions, their Rights, and their security, right over to a far more dangerous beast---the Federal Government. Local governments make rulings and changes without consulting with, nor caring about, those individuals and businesses who will be most affected. City Hall rarely asks what people need in order to learn, live, thrive, be productive. Little-to-no leadership at this level (My Uncle Doug, Mayor, is an exception.) Another dangerous bite threat. Public schools...reward the unworthy; while driving the best from the "jobs project" (Thank you, John Taylor Gatto) by using lies, distortions, and cruelty. Public schools graduate the illiterate and the uneducated back into the culture, thereby widening the circle of ignorance; increasing the number of unproductive citizens; worsening destructive behaviors. Public schools, with their policies, their teachings, and their indoctrination, cloud the eyes of the culture and warp the judgement and self esteem of the nation's children. Public schools feed deviance, and further sicken the society. They are as a rabid dog to the security of this nation. Public schools should be euthanized, with the Federal Department of Education and its 50 clones. Churches are too often uncomfortable and quite unwilling to pass judgement on the most guilty of sinners. Churches should be stating, "This, that, and that other behavior are bad; wrong; illicit; no-no's; "just not done"!" But that role has become a very unpopular one, even though the culture is decaying from a lack of such corrections from proper sources. Churches used to provide the nation, its leaders, and its families, with core values; with sense of purpose; with faith in a power Higher than...advertisements, media, and a "Me, Me" perspective on Life. Churches used to provide moral support, advice, and guiding Biblical references, to parents, to local leaders, and even to Congress!! Yes, Congress once knew better! Churches used to provide moral boundaries for decision making at all leadership levels. Church leaders, once models of decorum, scholarship, honor, have too often been replaced by individuals as lacking --even more lacking---in Discipline, Boundaries, and Limitations---than their parishioners. I know of one who slid into church service one Sunday to show off the new athletic shoes he was wearing! In my home, and as poor as we were, we all still owned "Sunday shoes" that were worn with respect; to places and events worthy of respect and proper behavior. Sports shoes were for noisy gymnasiums, sandy lots, playgrounds, and ballfields. Frankly, I am appalled by most of the clothing worn to church services. If people have so little respect as to enter our Lord's dwelling wearing sleazy, sloppy, ill-fitting clothing, why do they even bother to attend? Scary times indeed---when church officials, leaders, and members are the ones most in need of role models, discipline, boundaries, and limitations. Families are disorganized and fractured. Too many fathers were never taught to conduct themselves with propriety, intelligence, wisdom (Thank you, Dr. Spock. We owe it all to you.) Others have just decided to selfishly ignore the responsibilities of parenting. Immature, undisciplined men provide very destructive role models for children. Immature, undisciplined men swear at umpires; hit wives and children; rage at sporting events. Immature, undisciplined men put their bad upbringing (and their arses) on display for everyone to see. Immature, selfish, undisciplined men refuse to acknowledge that the most attentive eyes, and listening ears, are those of his children. Too many men become hit-and-run fathers, leaving their children to grow up in poverty; in disorganized, discipline-lacking homes where, too often, children train for a lifetime of crime and ...hit-and-run parenting. How can a father teach discipline, boundaries and limitations, when he has none? Such a man is still a child, himself, and needs Ron Paul as a role model and leader; Cesar Millan to take control of behaviors and maintain a tight leash. Immature, undisciplined mothers, even grandmothers, flaunt tattoos, piercings, inappropriate clothing. Immature, undisciplined mothers proudly draw attention to their nasty mouths; rude personalities; to their too-often-unattractive cleavage, and more. Too many mothers, whether attractive or not, have become downright repulsive. They have so little self respect, and no regard for their children, screaming at them in public; dragging them by the hand through stores; failing to teach them to appreciate, respect, and take advantage of Life's opportunities. Shamelessly, immature and undisciplined mothers become pregnant without marriage; hold fathers to no obligations; but expect taxpayers to support their bad decisions; their bad habits. Immature, undisciplined mothers keep disorganized and dirty homes; providing poorly planned meals, if they provide any at all. Too many, and the number continues to grow, just lack the basic instincts of parenting. Observe the animals around you. The animals parent with more wisdom and common sense than a growing number of today's mothers, who lack the character and morals necessary to instill character and morals in their children. Ron Paul most certainly has his work cut out for him, but I have no doubt that he will handle it well. Mrs. Paul is a picture of grace, decorum, and prudence. There is no other I would send in her stead to be the role model for mothers, everywhere. Children...grow up as they have been guided, shaped, and led (or not led) by their families; by their schools and teachers; by the culture as sanctioned by the Supreme Court. The circle reaches its beginning and continues in ever more shocking and depressing steps; in ever more destructive cycles. We all must work together to save the children; to provide them with discipline, boundaries and limitations. If the tide does not turn soon, the United States of America will die out with our older generations, if not before. America will be Nevermore. I do worry so about the future of America. If another socialist like Hillary; if another fear monger like Bush; should win the 2008 election, I fear that ... the grafters; the looters; the entitlement classes; the unwise; the foolish; the stupid, and all those who base their voting decisions upon 30-second TV commercials (Thank you, Jim Trelease), will have chosen the 'leader' that they very much deserve. However, the rest of us do not want, and do not deserve, what the Hillary's, the McCain's, the Bush's have to offer. We deserve Better, and 'Better' is only attainable with Dr. Ron Paul as President. If only Cesar Millan could be his running mate... Possibly President Ron Paul would consider The Dog Whisperer for a Cabinet post. A new position could even be created---Head of Cabinet Heads---and Cesar could start there. What about "Comptroller of Congress and (its cohort in crime---that policy-writing, culture-warping, irresponsible) Supreme Court"? The Dog Whisperer is experienced and successful in handling the most manipulative, vicious, devious, dangerous creatures. He may as well begin at the top to provide the much needed retraining and remediation, then I cannot wait to watch him in action as he deals with Congress, next. Cesar's expense account would be minimal, for he accomplishes wonders using a short leash. Dr. Ron Paul has delivered hundreds, thousands of babies. Planning for; preparing for; then bringing about healthy births is his area of expertise. Let us put him In Charge, then strongly support him as he plans, prepares, and brings about the rebirth of this nation and a return to its Constitutional Republic roots. "Sometimes the slightest things change the directions of our lives, the merest breath of a circumstance, a random moment that connects like a meteorite striking the earth. Lives have swiveled and changed direction on the strength of a chance remark." (Spoken by Peekay in The Power of One, by Bryce Courtenay, pg 60) Dr. Ron Paul's philosophies and goals are far from random; hugely larger than slight; but the changes he will bring about will be remarkable; certainly "like a meteorite striking the earth." Ron Paul is the person to support and elect to the office of President of the United States of America in 2008. He is our chance to swivel and change directions. We must act to support this only foreseeable opportunity to return America to its wise, intelligent, productive, culturally-healthy, freedom-securing Founding Principles. July 24, 2007 Linda Schrock Taylor

Is your son or daughter a computer hacker (READ)? As an enlightened, modern parent, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six children. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. My children have never failed to make me proud, and I can say without the slightest embellishment that I have the finest family in the USA. Two years ago, my wife Carol and I decided that our children's education would not be complete without some grounding in modern computers. To this end, we bought our children a brand new Compaq to learn with. The kids had a lot of fun using the handful of application programs we'd bought, such as Adobe's Photoshop and Microsoft's Word, and my wife and I were pleased that our gift was received so well. Our son Peter was most entranced by the device, and became quite a pro at surfing the net. When Peter began to spend whole days on the machine, I became concerned, but Carol advised me to calm down, and that it was only a passing phase. I was content to bow to her experience as a mother, until our youngest daughter, Cindy, charged into the living room one night to blurt out: "Peter is a computer hacker!" As you can imagine, I was amazed. A computer hacker in my own house! I began to monitor my son's habits, to make certain that Cindy wasn't just telling stories, as she is prone to doing at times. After a few days of investigation, and some research into computer hacking, I confronted Peter with the evidence. I'm afraid to say, this was the only time I have ever been truly disappointed in one of my children. We raised them to be honest and to have integrity, and Peter betrayed the principles we tried to encourage in him, when he refused point blank to admit to his activities. His denials continued for hours, and in the end, I was left with no choice but to ban him from using the computer until he is old enough to be responsible for his actions. After going through this ordeal with my own family, I was left pondering how I could best help others in similar situations. I'd gained a lot of knowledge over those few days regarding hackers. It's only right that I provide that information to other parents, in the hope that they will be able to tell if their children are being drawn into the world of hacking. Perhaps other parents will be able to steer their sons back onto the straight and narrow before extreme measures need to be employed. To this end, I have decided to publish the top ten signs that your son is a hacker. I advise any parents to read this list carefully and if their son matches the profile, they should take action. A smart parent will first try to reason with their son, before resorting to groundings, or even spanking. I pride myself that I have never had to spank a child, and I hope this guide will help other parents to put a halt to their son's misbehaviour before a spanking becomes necessary. 1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs? Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL. These providers have a strict "No Hacking" policy, and take careful measures to ensure that your internet experience is enjoyable, educational and above all legal. If your child is becoming a hacker, one of his first steps will be to request a change to a more hacker friendly provider. I would advise all parents to refuse this request. One of the reasons your son is interested in switching providers is to get away from AOL's child safety filter. This filter is vital to any parent who wants his son to enjoy the internet without the endangering him through exposure to "adult" content. It is best to stick with the protection AOL provides, rather than using a home-based solution. If your son is becoming a hacker, he will be able to circumvent any home-based measures with surprising ease, using information gleaned from various hacker sites. 2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing? Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash". The best option is to confront your son with the evidence, and force him to remove the offending programs. He will probably try to install the software again, but you will be able to tell that this is happening, if your machine offers to "download" one of the hacker applications. If this happens, it is time to give your son a stern talking to, and possibly consider punishing him with a grounding. 3. Has your child asked for new hardware? Computer hackers are often limited by conventional computer hardware. They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer. If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well. 4. Does your child read hacking manuals? If you pay close attention to your son's reading habits, as I do, you will be able to determine a great deal about his opinions and hobbies. Children are at their most impressionable in the teenage years. Any father who has had a seventeen year old daughter attempt to sneak out on a date wearing make up and perfume is well aware of the effect that improper influences can have on inexperienced minds. There are, unfortunately, many hacking manuals available in bookshops today. A few titles to be on the lookout for are: "Snow Crash" and "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson; "Neuromancer" by William Gibson; "Programming with Perl" by Timothy O'Reilly; "Geeks" by Jon Katz; "The Hacker Crackdown" by Bruce Sterling; "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland; "Hackers" by Steven Levy; and "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric S. Raymond. If you find any of these hacking manuals in your child's possession, confiscate them immediately. You should also petition local booksellers to remove these titles from their shelves. You may meet with some resistance at first, but even booksellers have to bow to community pressure. 5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day? If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. DOSing involves gaining access to the "command prompt" on other people's machines, and using it to tie up vital internet services. This can take up to eight hours. If your son is doing this, he is breaking the law, and you should stop him immediately. The safest policy is to limit your children's access to the computer to a maximum of forty-five minutes each day. 6. Does your son use Quake? Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms. Many hackers develop anti-social tendencies due to the use of this virtual world, and it may cause erratic behaviour at home and at school. If your son is using Quake, you should make hime understand that this is not acceptable to you. You should ensure all the firearms in your house are carefully locked away, and have trigger locks installed. You should also bring your concerns to the attention of his school. 7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour? As a child enters the electronic world of hacking, he may become disaffected with the real world. He may lose the ability to control his actions, or judge the rightness or wrongness of a course of behaviour. This will manifest itself soonest in the way he treats others. Those whom he disagrees with will be met with scorn, bitterness, and even foul language. He may utter threats of violence of a real or electronic nature. Even when confronted, your son will probably find it difficult to talk about this problem to you. He will probably claim that there is no problem, and that you are imagining things. He may tell you that it is you who has the problem, and you should "back off" and "stop smothering him." Do not allow yourself to be deceived. You are the only chance your son has, even if he doesn't understand the situation he is in. Keep trying to get through to him, no matter how much he retreats into himself. 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone. Your son may try to install "lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional. If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface. 9. Has your son radically changed his appearance? If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying "glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) There are many such hackers in schools today, and your son may have started to associate with them. If you notice that your son's group of friends includes people dressed like this, it is time to think about a severe curfew, to protect him from dangerous influences. 10. Is your son struggling academically? If your son is failing courses in school, or performing poorly on sports teams, he may be involved in a hacking group, such as the infamous "Otaku" hacker association. Excessive time spent on the computer, communicating with his fellow hackers may cause temporary damage to the eyes and brain, from the electromagnetic radiation. This will cause his marks to slip dramatically, particularly in difficult subjects such as Math, and Chemistry. In extreme cases, over-exposure to computer radiation can cause schizophrenia, meningitis and other psychological diseases. Also, the reduction in exercise may cause him to lose muscle mass, and even to start gaining weight. For the sake of your child's mental and physical health, you must put a stop to his hacking, and limit his computer time drastically. I encourage all parents to read through this guide carefully. Your child's future may depend upon it. Hacking is an illegal and dangerous activity, that may land your child in prison, and tear your family apart. It cannot be taken too seriously.

Why don't churches teach the following facts? Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: Jesus: Did He look Jewish or Aryan?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Anglo-Saxon Jesus By Jason Robb, J.D. EDITORS NOTE: The term Anglo-Saxon in this article is used generically . The white race has kindred people who do not necessarily identify themselves as Anglo-Saxon. All white people are related by blood and share common ancestry. The term Anglo-Saxon therefore would be interchangeable with any word used for identifying those of our European kindred such as Germanic or Scandinavian (among others) For centuries Jesus Christ was depicted by Europeans as one of their own. Images of Jesus Christ whether in paint or upon stained glass clearly showed Him (including the apostles, His mother Mary, the women who labored for Christ, and his followers) as white. However, today there is an attempt to undermine the factual evidence that Jesus was white. Instead we are told that Jesus is a mixture of all races. Many modern artists attempt to portray Jesus with all of the various racial characteristics. The Judeo-Christian preachers today and their anti-Christ rabbi counterparts argue that Jesus probably had black, tight curly, perhaps even kinky hair. The historians and archaeologists of today, excluding the ones in the past, argue he would look like a typical "Israeli" in which he would look neither black or white, but a dark brown mixture of the two. The question is what did Jesus Christ really look like? The traditional view of Europeans hold that he had blond or auburn hair and blue or hazel eyes. His face was long with high cheek bones (note: The Shroud of Turin), and he was tall and muscular. This traditional view has been depicted in Western art for centuries such as in "The Pantocrator" or "Creator of All," a sixth-century mosaic. Now, however, many are saying that this white "view" of Jesus by Europeans was only a testament of the ancient racism of Europeans. This past Easter, when millions of Christians celebrated Jesus’ resurrection, scientists, historians, and Judeo-Christians collaborated to create a "new model" for Jesus, which aired around Easter on the Discovery Channel and PBS. Joe Zias, one of the leading archaeologists in Israel, who worked on the project, said, "in reconstructing this head, we are not claiming that this is exactly Jesus’ face, but we are trying to counteract all of those bad images of blond-haired , blue-eyed Jesus running around Hollywood productions. He continued and said, " we know he didn’t have long hair and it wasn’t blond. And he wasn’t blue eyed." How does he know that? John Dominic Crossan, a "scholar" based in Florida said, "this is a country of immigrants and now our ethnicity is changing once again. We have a growing population of Latinos and others. What will Jesus look like in the future? He certainly will look darker." Even Rev. D. James Kennedy, the Presbyterian pastor from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida and T.V. evangelist said, "Nobody really knows what Christ looked like, and to a very real extent it is irrelevant… The important thing is that he is the Redeemer and Son of God". The problem with all these reconstructions of Jesus and these Judeo-Christian ministers such as Dr. Kennedy is it is relevant what he looked like. Jesus was the Redeemer - but to whom? (Note Matt. 1:23 and others) Although the description of Jesus in some respects is not important, such as his height, weight, or how long his hair is, what is important is that He was the Kinsmen Redeemer (Kinsmen: of the same blood) to a certain people – Israel, who now comprises the Anglo-Saxon -Teutonic and kindred people of Europe. And Jesus’ racial description identifies the people He belonged to. So in asking what Jesus looked like is actually asking what does the race he belonged to by physical birth look like? There is Biblical and historical evidence that informs us exactly what he (by race) looked like. And THAT is important. It is the reason the genealogy of Jesus is given in Matthew and Luke. BIBLICAL EVIDENCE Jesus was the direct descendent of Kind David and therefore the rightful heir of the Israel’s kingdom throne. In I Samuel 16:12, when Samuel went to anoint David to be the new King of Israel it states, "And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy…" In Webster’s dictionary, ruddy is defined as … redness; akin to red; having a healthy reddish color. (Even Adam means to "blush" or " to show redness in the face." This identifies only one race. I’ll let you figure out which race.) Therefore King David would have been fair skinned with reddish hair. Not the typical dark Jew or Arab, as some are now being led to believe. (Some will cite Rahab (wrongly called a prostitute instead of the important position she held) and Ruth who are counted among the genealogy of Jesus - claiming that these two women of God were not Israelites and thus additional proof that Jesus was not racially pure. Those who make this erroneous claim have been deceived into believing that the countries in which these women lived characterize their race. It does not. Both women were Israelites and followers of Jehovah) HISTORICAL EVIDENCE The vast majority of the world is ignorant of the fact that there were actually eye-witnesses and written accounts of Jesus, His earthly father Joseph, and His mother Mary. Many of these written accounts are kept in the Vatican library, which describes what Jesus and Joseph looked like. These written accounts were compiled in The Archko Volume. In The Archko Volume, we can read where Gamaliel was sent by the Sanhedrin to interrogate Joseph and Mary in regard to the child Jesus. He says in regard to Joseph, "his hair looks as though it might have been dark auburn when young." Later, he talks about Jesus’ description. "His hair is a little more golden than hers (his mother Mary), though it is as much from sunburn as anything else… His eyes are large and soft blue, his eyebrows very large." This is a description of a people that does not represent the people we know as Jews today. This is not the description of Arabs, blacks, or any other type of people. This is the description of our ancestors – the white Europeans. Valleus Paterculus, a Roman Historian, met and interviewed Jesus and made a report to Pilate, who in return made a report to Caesar. Paterculus states, "One day in passing by the place of Siloe, where there was a great concourse of people, I observed in the midst of the group a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus… His golden-colored hair and beard gave his appearance a celestial aspect… " Lastly, as we can see, Jesus was a person who resembled a particular race of people. Only one race has blond, auburn, or red hair, with blue, green, and hazel eyes. All these characteristics identify the white race, the true Israel. However, as our nation becomes more Judiazed and non-white, no longer will our ancestors in the Bible be depicted as a reflection of us, but will be depicted as a typical dark mideastern Jew. Tom Roberts, editor of the Catholic Reporter said, "artists should feel free to reinterpret Jesus for each new era." The era that is approaching and coming upon us is a Jewish era, an era that does not reflect the traditional Christian morals and values of our people, but is an attempt to change the core values of our people in preparation of the one world church. The fact is Jesus Christ was a white man. He came to the lost sheep of the House of Israel as their Kinsman Redeemer. Can anyone of any race follow the teachings of Jesus Christ? Yes, but it doesn't make them kinsmen. It doesn't give them the authority to change the historical and correct image of Jesus' white racial background into their own. And saying that Jesus Christ is white doesn't make a person an evil hater any more than it would were they to say that George Washington or Queen Elizabeth is white. They are merely stating the facts. Back to top Michael S. Burks Site Admin Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following excerpt is taken from The Apocalypse of Jesus Christ: A Verse by Verse Exegesis, pages 279-280, by Pastor V.S. Herrell, which is available from HBPH, PO Box 130, Kodak, TN 37764. This excerpt regards Revelation 22:16: "I, Jesus, sent My messenger to testify these things to you over the Body Politics. I am the Root and Race of David, the bright and morning Star." Now Jesus affirms that the Messenger sent to John to reveal these things was indeed sent by Jesus, and identifies Himself as the bright and morning Star (cf. Numbers 24:17) and the Root and Race of David (cf. Isaiah 11:1). In saying He is the root and race of David, He is implying that He is both the source of David and the offspring of David. He is also saying that He is racially identical to David. This is important because both the Bible and history explicitly record a racial description of David. In the Septuagint, we read in I Samuel 16:12 of David (cf. I Samuel 17:42): "And he sent and fetched him: and his was ruddy, with beauty of eyes, and good in the sight of the Master. And the Master said to Samuel, Arise, and anoint David, for he is good." Here the word ruddyis translated for the Greek purrakos, which mean to have a ruddy complexion. The Hebrew word here is admoniy, a derivative of Adam, and of course Adammeans to show blood in the face, to blush or turn rosy. So the Bible says very clearly that David was white, for the Hebrew word adam and the description of ruddywere only applied to white men. Now Josephus also comments upon David, using slightly different words: "Now so soon as David appeared at his father's summons - a boy with golden blonde skin, with fiery eyes and in other ways handsome - " (Jewish Antiquities, VI:164). Here the words golden blonde are translated for the Greek xanthos, from which we get the English prefix xantho-, which means yellow. The Greek word meant a golden yellow, and when used of people it meant that they were blonde. When used of skin color (as Josephus explicitly does), it implies the golden yellow skin associated with blonde people. This means that the word was only and could only be used of people of White, Nordic stock. And of course, only white people are capable of having rosy colored cheeks, as the term adam and purrakos or ruddy implies. So when Jesus says that He was of the race of David, He is purposely contrasting Himself to the dark, swarthy-skinned Edomite Jews, and any other non- whites who controlled Jerusalem at that time, and establishing once and for all times that like David, He was perfect in His race.

What is the relationship between 911 and Saddam? By The Numbers On September 11th, 2001 4 Flights were hijacked. American Airlines Flight 11 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound for Los Angeles before being piloted into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.American Airlines Flight 77 which left Washington's Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles before being flown into the Pentagon. United Airlines Flight 93 which left Newark, N.J., bound for San Francisco before crashing in Stony Creek Township, Pa United Airlines Flight 175 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound for Los Angeles before being piloted into the South Tower of the World Trade Center. Why did the mastermind behind the attacks on America of September 11th, 2001 choose these particular flight numbers? MY THEORY ABOUT THE CHOICE OF FLIGHT 93 WAS THAT 1993 WAS THE YEAR IN WHICH SADDAM FIRST TRIED TO ASSASSINATE FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH IN KUWAIT, IT WAS ALSO THE YEAR IN WHICH SADDAM HUSSEIN FIRST TRIED TO DESTROY THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. IT TURNED OUT TO BE AN UNLUCKY NUMBER FOR SADDAM HUSSEIN BECAUSE THE PASSENGERS ON FLIGHT 93 BECAME HEROES AND STOPPED THE PLANE FROM GOING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. "White House Was Flight 93 Target http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/20/attack/main509535.shtml May 23, 2002 Volunteers in Shanksville this past weekend. (Photo: AP) The San Francisco-bound jet had turned toward Washington and U.S. fighter jets were flying to intercept it when it crashed. All 44 people aboard were killed. (CBS) A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the intended target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House. Government sources said Abu Zubaydah, now in U.S. custody, is believed to be the source of the information. He is being interrogated by U.S. officials at an undisclosed location. Investigators have linked Zubaydah directly to hijackers on board Flight 93. United Flight 93 took off from Newark, N.J., and crashed in Somerset County, Pa.. A recorder on the plane and calls made to people on the ground indicate passengers fought for control with the hijackers before it went down. The San Francisco-bound jet had turned toward Washington and U.S. fighter jets were flying to intercept it when it crashed. All 44 people aboard were killed. Officials previously had assumed the White House was a likely target, but said the Capitol and CIA headquarters in McLean, Va., near Washington were other possibilities.Abu Zubaydah is believed to have played a key role in organizing the Sept. 11 attacks, officials said. As al Qaeda's top operational planner, he ran the Khalden camp in Afghanistan, where U.S. investigators have learned many of the Sept. 11 hijackers trained. This suggests Abu Zubaydah may have had direct contact with the hijackers and chosen them for training. He also had telephone contacts with at least one Arab student at U.S. flight schools, according to a July 10, 2001, memo from a Phoenix FBI agent. The CIA, FBI and Pakistani authorities captured and wounded Abu Zubaydah in a raid by in Faisalabad, Pakistan, in March. He is believed to have masterminded the failed millennium bombing plots in Los Angeles and Jordan, and has been linked to failed plots on the U.S. embassies in Paris and Sarajevo. Abu Zubaydah was also indirectly linked, through a web of associations with other al Qaeda members in Europe, to lead Sept. 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and his cell in Hamburg, Germany. Three members of the Hamburg cell were suicide hijackers; three others are still at large. Ziad Jarrah, believed to be the pilot-hijacker of Flight 93, was a member of the Hamburg cell." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/20/attack/main509535.shtml The first attack on the World Trade Center on February 26th, 1993. The February 26th, 1993 attack marked the 11th anniversary to the day of the declaration by the Reagan-Bush Administration of February 26th, 1982 that Iraq was no longer a state sponsor of terrorism and as such was eligible for American loans and grants, which it subsequently got. The February 26th, 1993 attack also marked the 2nd anniversary to the day of the liberation of Kuwait by the U.S. in the first Gulf War. Remarks at the Commemoration of the Tenth Anniversary of the Liberation of Kuwait Secretary Colin L. Powell Kuwait City, Kuwait (US Embassy) February 26, 2001 The World Trade Center was attacked by terrorists associated with Sheik Rahman on February 26th, 1993. It was Sheik Rahman's group that murdered Egyptian President Anwar Sadat on the 8th anniversary to the day of the 1973 Yom Kippur War, October 6th. Sheik Rahman's son was subsequently found with bin Laden's group in Afghanistan when the U.S. liberated Afghanistan. "White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: we have real and credible information that the airplane that landed at the Pentagon was originally intended to hit the White House." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010912- 8.html#intended-targets American Airlines Flight 77 which left Washington's Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles before being flown into the Pentagon. 7/7 is one way to write the date July 7th On July 7th, 1994 Yasser Arafat, PLO chairman drove from Egypt into Gaza, after 27 years in exile. What Arafat was doing was using the date of July 7th to re-write a perceived wrong he had felt some years earlier on another July 7th. It was on July 7th 1986 that the government of Jordan closed the offices of Yasser Arafat's al-Fatah. Because a bus bombing occurred in London on July 7th, 2005 it struck me that the nation that has endured more bus bombings than any other nation is Israel. There may be a connection between the July 7th, 2005 attacks in London and the terrorists who have targeted Israel with bus bombings for years. Recently terrorists in Iraq murdered Egypt's envoy to Iraq. "Zarqawi group reportedly killed Egyptian ambassador in Iraq Iraq-Egypt, Politics, 7/7/2005 News reports from al-Jazeera and al-Arabia satellite TV stations said that Egypt's top diplomat in Iraq to Iraq, Eyhab al-Sharif, had been executed. Meantime, Al-Qaida organization in Iraq, led by Abu Musab al- Zarqawi, had threatened in a statement on the Internet to execute the chairman of the Egyptian diplomatic mission al-Sharif. The threat to execute Sharif came a short time after al-Qaida organization in Iraq issued pictures for the identity cards of the Egyptian diplomat as an evidence that they are the ones which kidnapped him. The statement said the legitimate court of al-Qaida organization in Mesopotamia decided to "send the ambassador of the state of Egypt to the Mujahideen (indivduals from Egypt and other states that go to Iraq to fight with the insurgents) to execute the death penalty against him." The statement considered that "the embassies in Baghdad are but monitoring sites to snipe the arriving Mujahideen and preventing them from having access to their brothers in Jihad in the land of Mesopotamia (Iraq) and in Afghanistan." In an attempt to prove that the Egyptian ambassador is their possession, al-Qaida organization published documents including a driving Sharif's license and a work card for him at the foreign ministry and another one for health insurance. On Tuesday the organization claimed responsibility for kidnapping Sharif." American Airlines Flight 11 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound for Los Angeles before being piloted into the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Saddam Hussein assassinated his first victim when he was 11 years old. Fixated on the number 11 ever since then he easily focused on the World Trade Center as a target because it looked so much like a number 11 that WPIX TV Channel 11 in New York City used the World Trade Center in its logo for years. The World Trade Center also housed an office of the Bank of Kuwait. Saddam used Rahman's group to punish Sadat for failing to defeat Israel in the attack on Israel of October 6th, 1973. Saddam also used Sheik Rahman's group to hit the Speaker of the Egyptian Parliament during the first Gulf War when Egypt sided with America against Iraq. Saddam, acting like a child who is deprived of a toy, who subsequently breaks that toy, set fire to the Kuwaiti oil fields as he was being driven out of Kuwait during the first Gulf War in 1991. "Aired 9/11/2001 "Baghdad Republic of Iraq TV: These are the fruits of the new US order.[Video of explosion rocking World Trade Center] Panic has spread among US official circles, which evacuated the White House following a series of explosions." "CNN LARRY KING LIVE Aired October 2, 2001 LARRY KING: Have you spoken to your father- in-law? (George Herbert Walker Bush) LAURA BUSH: I've spoken to my father-in-law. They were-they had actually spent that Monday night here.(at the White House) I had just seen them off that morning (9/11/2001) when I got in the car and found out about the first plane.(going into the World Trade Center.)" "CNN LARRY KING LIVE America's New War: Laura Bush Discusses the Impact of September 11 Aired October 2, 2001 - 21:00 LARRY KING: A couple of other things: Have you spoken to your father- in-law? (Not in transcript, but the father in law in question is one George Herbert Walker Bush !!!) LAURA BUSH: I've spoken to my father-in-law. They were-they had actually spent that Monday night here. (not in transcript but "here" means at the White House !!!) LARRY KING: Really? LAURA BUSH: I had just seen them off that morning when I got in the-got in the car and found out about the first plane. LARRY KING: Didn't know that. LAURA BUSH: They were-they were on their way to St. Paul, Minnesota to give a speech, and they were in a private plane, and their plane was diverted to Minneapolis." http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/02/lkl.00.html "September 11th, 2001 - The White House is evacuated. White House Sealed" http://www.september11news.com/AAWhiteHouseEvacReuters.jpg "try to avoid having the principal travel by commercial airline on terrorist anniversaries" from "The Art of Executive Protection" http://www.securitymanagement.com/library/000450.html " Saddam tried to kill former President Bush in 1993. Former President Bush's Speech to Congress September 11th 1990. 11 years to the day before September 11th 2001 "In the early morning hours of August 2d,(1990),a powerful Iraqi army invaded Kuwait. The crisis in the Persian Gulf also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective-a new world order-can emerge." White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: we have real and credible information that the airplane that landed at the Pentagon was originally intended to hit the White House." "White House Was Flight 93 Target A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the intended target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House. Government sources said Abu Zubaydah, now in U.S. custody, believed to be the source of the information." Perhaps the following may explain how Saddam knew where former President Bush might be spending the night of September 10th-11th 2001: "Like everyone else in the United States, the group stood transfixed as the events of September 11 unfolded. Present were former secretary of defense Frank Carlucci, former secretary of state James Baker III, and representatives of the bin Laden family. This was not some underground presidential bunker or Central Intelligence Agency interrogation room. It was the Ritz-Carlton in Washington, D.C., the plush setting for the annual investor conference of one of the most powerful, well-connected, and secretive companies in the world: the Carlyle Group. And since September 11, this little-known company has become unexpectedly important. That the Carlyle Group had its conference on America's darkest day was mere coincidence, but there is nothing accidental about the cast of characters that this private-equity powerhouse has assembled in the 14 years since its founding. Among those associated with Carlyle are former U.S. President George Bush Sr., former U.K. Prime Minister John Major, and former President of the Philippines Fidel Ramos. And Carlyle has counted, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz Alsaud of Saudi Arabia, and Osama bin Laden's family among its high-profile clientele." "The White House is bordered on three sides by buildings that are as tall or taller than itself. (OEOB, Treasury, and Blair House.) Beyond these buildings there are still more buildings, that also are taller than the White House. The only flight path that is relatively unobstructed if making a controlled, straight-in approach, is from the south, over the ellipse. Even the Marine helicopter the president uses comes in from this direction and lands on the South Lawn. The problem with flying a plane the size of a 757 or 767 in from this direction is that there's a 555 ft tall structure in the way called the Washington Monument. The Capitol, although a bigger target, is similarly situated. There are buildings on all sides except for the west side, which faces the Mall. Again, for a controlled, straight-in approach, a pilot first would need to avoid the Washington Monument, and then fly straight down the Mall. There is more room to do this, but again, it would take considerable skill. Moreover, the buildings in Roslyn, just across the river from and to the west of the Mall, would have to be cleared, which means the plane's altitude would probably be too high, or the angle of descent too steep to permit a successful attack by anyone other than a skilled, experienced pilot." To indicate September 1990 one might well write or type 9/90 It was in September of 1990 that President George Herbert Walker Bush spoke to Congress on Iraq. On September 11th, 1990 in fact. What of EgyptAir Flight 990? Weeks after the last pile of debris from EgyptAir Flight 990 was pulled from the sea, investigators say they are more convinced than ever of their original theory: The jet was crashed deliberately." "The co-pilot under scrutiny in the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990 uttered an Arabic prayer not once but as many as 10 times just before the doomed airliner went down" "Aviation Analyst John Nance Talks About Flight 990 When a commercial aircraft goes into a dive as steep and precipitous as the preliminary radar data seems to indicate." An example of terrorists striking on an anniversary came on October 7th, 2004 in Taba. "Images of Destruction | Taba Hilton Before and After Terrorist Attack on October 7, 2004" According to initial findings Naveh said, a car bomb blew up at the entrance to the Hilton Taba Hotel and there was a combined bomb and shooting attack in two restaurants usually frequented by Israelis in Ras Al-Satan." http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4020867.html On October 7th,2001 "America Retaliates for the September 11 Attacks. October 7, 2001 President George W. Bush Speaks to America After the Strikes Begin. "On October 7th, 1959, Saddam and others attempted, but failed, to assassinate the prime minister of Iraq. Wanted by the Iraqi government, Saddam was forced to flee. He lived in exile in Syria for three months and then moved to Egypt where he lived for three years." http://history1900s.about.com/od/saddamhussein/p/saddamhussein.htm "President Saddam Hussein chairs 48th Cabinet Session Baghdad, Oct. 22, 2001 INA President Saddam Hussein chaired on Sunday the 48th Cabinet session. The Cabinet discussed recent events of Palestinian Intifadha and praised Palestinians brave and persistent struggle for liberating their lands. The cabinet reviewed the current international situation, especially the U.S aggression on Afghanistan. The Cabinet brought back a historic stance Iraq had taken in 1979 when it condemned the military Soviet invasion of Afghanistan though Iraq had then deep relations with the Soviet Union and there was a friendship and cooperation agreement between Iraq and the Soviet Union, yet this had not prevented Iraq from taking the national independent stand rejecting Soviet's behavior. History repeats itself once again in 2001 as Iraq takes the same stance and condemns the US aggression on Afghanistan....this confirms Iraq's principled stance rejecting all forms of foreign intervention and aggressions. The Cabinet discussed issues listed on its agenda and made necessary decisions and recommendations." Saddam loves 11th anniversaries, for instance " Saddam Hussein's speech on the 11th Anniversary of the Great Victory Day In the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful Great People, The Valiant of Our Brave Armed Forces, Sons of our Glorious Arab Nation…" "Middle East Correspondent, Robert Fisk: Why was it that the bombing of the two embassies in Tanzania and Kenya occurred on the eighth anniversary to the very day of the first arrival of American troops of the 82nd airborne in Saudi Arabia in 1990?" "The 12th of October 2002 will for the rest of Australian history be counted as a day when evil struck with indiscriminate and indescribable savagery," "On October 12th, 2000 terrorists in a boat laden with explosives carried out a suicide bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in the harbor at Aden, Yemen. In what President Clinton described as a "despicable and cowardly act," 17 U.S. sailors were killed, and over 30 others were wounded." After the liberation of Iraq terrorists struck the Baghdad Hotel on October 12th. If you add 1 to 9 you get 10. If you add 1 to 11 you get 12. Thus the 9/11/2001 attack was presaged by the attack on the U.S.S. Cole on 10/12/2000. The terrorists were engaging in what to them was a private joke regarding their plans for 9/11/2001. "Iraq has the motivation and the means to actively support the Islamist networks of the region*** In the past, there have been intelligence reports of possible cooperation between Iraq and Osama bin Laden. Iraq has already tried to assassinate President Bush Senior in 1993, when he visited Kuwait as a private citizen. In the attack on the USS Cole in Aden (in) October (of 2000), there could have been an Iraqi connection. Iraq has excellent relations with the anti-Western Yemeni Islamists of the Army of Aden-Abyan, whose militants have been arrested by the Yemenite authorities in connection with the attack. Such an attack required long preparations, technical and military skills and good operational intelligence. In addition, the explosive used in the attack was sophisticated, a "shaped charge" like a torpedo or a missile, a device not in use by terrorist organizations, and which may have come from a military stockpile." 4 DAYS BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 Saddam's Stepson in USA "Authorities said Saffi" (Saddam's Stepson), " triggered red flags for four reasons: the family relationship to the Iraqi dictator; training at an American flight school; arrival on the eve of the Independence Day celebrations; and his only documented prior entry into the United States occurred just four days before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." "Saddam's Stepson to Be Deported Fri Jul 5th 2002 (Saffi) was planning to study at a flight school believed by the FBI to have been used by one of the Sept. 11 hijackers." "US officials state that an FBI investigation had substantiated charges that the Iraqi government plotted the assassination of former President Bush while visiting Kuwait in April 1993." "Terrorist Pilot Met With Iraqi Intelligence Agent By RICK JERVIS Special to The Wall Street Journal Europe Wall Street Journal, Europe October 4, 2001 [With thanks to Laurie Mylroie - Iraq News] PRAGUE-Mohamed Atta, who allegedly crashed the first plane into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, met at least one Iraqi intelligence agent last year in Prague before moving to the U.S., a Czech official close to the investigation said." United Airlines Flight 175 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound for Los Angeles before being piloted into the South Tower of the World Trade Center. UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY 15 December 1988 43/175. Question of Palestine RECORDED VOTE ON RESOLUTION 43/175 A: 123-2-20 Did Anniversary Assassins Strike Again November 22nd 2004 What do you think the chances are that the plane crash which would have killed the 41st President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush,had he been on board the plane which was enroute from Love Field in Dallas, Texas to pick him up, on the 41st anniversary of the assassination of JFK 11/22/1963 was a botched assassination attempt? Saddam Hussein, who may be running the show from his jail cell, assassinated his first victim when he was 11 years old, took power in Iraq in 1968, made it official 11 years later in 1979, invaded Kuwait 11 years later in 1990 sent bin Laden to assassinate former President Bush 11 years later on 9/11/2001 on the 11th anniversary to the day of the 9/11/1990 Bush speech to Congress on Iraq in which Bush mentioned The New World Order."US plans to dominate the world under the cover of what is called the new [world] order. These are the fruits of the new US order. [Video of explosion rocking World Trade Center] [Description of Source: Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television in Arabic-Official television station of the Iraqi Government." The World Trade Center looked so much like the number 11 that WPIX-TV Channel 11 in New York City used the World Trade Center as its logo. Note 11 times 2 equals 22. The Madrid attacks were done exactly 911 days after 9/11/2001. Sadat, criticized by arafat and Saddam for making peace with Israel, was assassinated on 10/6/1981 exactly 8 years after the 10/6/1973 Yom Kippur War in which he failed to defeat Israel. The American Embassies in Africa were hit on August 8th, 1998, exactly 8 years after the US entered Saudi Arabia in response to Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. A gentlemanly John Connally reaches to remove his hat as Jackie Kennedy enters presidential limousine at Love Field, Dallas, November 22, 1963 Source: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/images/jbc-love.htm The shocking news that narco-terrorists in Colombia plotted to assassinate current President George W. Bush on Monday November 22nd, 2004, the 41st anniversary of the JFK assassination, needs some examination. BCCI, the infamous drug-terror-arms bank that allegedly gave former President Jimmy Carter $10 million for the Carter Library,had offices in Peru, where coca leaves are grown, in Colombia, where the coca leaves are processed into cocaine, and in Castro's Cuba, and Baathist Syria and Baathist Iraq. Banks did not get offices in any of those 3 tyrannies without the approval of the tyrant. "Colombian Rebels Planned to Kill President Bush November 27th, 2004 U.S. National - Reuters By Hugh Bronstein BOGOTA, Colombia (Reuters) - President Bush was targeted for assassination by Colombia's biggest Marxist rebel group this week when he visited the Caribbean port city of Cartagena, a top Colombian official said on Saturday. "According to informants and various sources, we had information indicating that various members of the FARC had been instructed by their leaders to make an attempt against President Bush," Defense Secretary Jorge Alberto Uribe told reporters. He would not be drawn out on the details of the threat. The White House had no immediate comment. The U.S. Secret Service, which protects the president, said it "does not comment or release information regarding our protective intelligence and protective methods." "We do not discuss any alleged threats to our protectees," said Jonathan Cherry, a Secret Service spokesman. There was heavy security in Cartagena when Bush visited the city on Monday(November 22nd, 2004)on his way back from the APEC forum in Chile. Military helicopters packed with armed soldiers flew over Bush's motorcade while naval vessels kept watch offshore. Many shops were shuttered." Source: http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041127/us_nm/colombia_bush_plot_dc_5 "In early August, 1991, the Committee was provided with documents from the Latin American and Caribbean Region Office (LACRO) of BCCI, describing the offer for sale by the Argentine air force of 22 Mirage aircraft for $110 million. (63) The planned sale was to have been made to Iraq, as part of Saddam Hussein's massive military buildup prior to the Gulf war. BCCI was acting as the broker for the transaction, which was to take place in August or September of 1989...As Robert Mazur, the Customs agent in Tampa who selected BCCI as the target of the Customs money laundering sting testified, BCCI bank executives volunteered methods to enhance and improve his techniques for money laundering, and shortly before the sting ended the operation, offered to introduce Mazur to other potential "cash" customers for money laundering services from Bogota, Colombia...." Source: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/04crime.htm "The Ba'ath leadership gave the orders for Qasim's assassination...On October 7th,1959, a six-,man assassination squad was waiting...the night before one member of the squad had fallen ill. A new recruit was drafted in...his full name was Saddam Hussein al-Takriti." Page 22 "The Ba'athist led forces...participated in the coup of 8th February 1963...Immediately after the coup, Saddam Hussein returned to Iraq, where he was appointed as the head of Al-Jihaz Al Khas, known popularly as Jihaz Haneen (the Yearning Apparatus), the clandestine intelligence organization of the Ba'ath Party. Saddam proceeded to turn it into an instrument of terror....on 18th November (1963) the army seized power in a swift military coup...the new leadership of the Ba'ath Party...was arrested. However, some of its members immediately collaborated with the new regime..." Pgs 25-26 "7th October 1959 A Ba'athist assassination squad fails to kill Qasim. A member of the team, twenty-two-year old Saddam Hussein, escapes to Syria and then to Egypt...8th February 1963 A Ba'athist coup overthrows Quasim amidst several days of terrible street fighting...18th November 1963 Following bitter infighting between...factions of the Baath, Arif overthrows the Ba'athist regime..." Pages 312-313 "Saddam...inherited from his uncle an admiration for Nazi principles...he was attracted to the ideas of the Ba'ath nationalist movement. The movement had been established in Damascus in 1943" (when Syria was a French colony and Hitler ruled France) "by two Syrians, Greek Orthodox Christian Michel A'flaq and Sunni Muslim Salah al-Bitar. Their philosophy was based on the ideology of German national socialism" (Nazism) "and on Italian fascism." Page 199 "After the Ba'ath Party came to power in February 1963...Saddam was promoted into the Regional Command Council and it was soon found that this was his metier. He was put in charge of a special force responsible for terror and assassination and was an interrogator and torturer in the Qasr al-Nihayyat (`The Palace of the End'). Eyewitnesses say Saddam excelled in creating new methods and revealed a sadistically inventive mind. He designed new instruments of torture and then experimentd with them on his victims. ...By the summer of 1963, Saddam was urging the party to put him in charge of creating a special security apparatus modelled on the Nazi SS. This was the Jihaz Haneen....following nationalisation of banks and certain foreign companies in 1964, the Ba'ath Party instructed Saddam to assassinate the president Abd al-Salam Arif. The proposed assassination was designed to trigger off another Ba'ath coup. Critics say it was a plan on behalf of the CIA but according to some Ba'athist defectors the CIA did not have direct contact with the Ba'ath itself but with army officers who were co-ordinating a joint coup with the party. The main contact with the Americans was Iraq's own ambassador in Washington, Dr. Nasser al-Hanni." Pages 201-203 "The second part of the plot was carried out by the Jihaz Haneen...Members of the Iraqi Jewish community...were...arrested. Eleven of them were among the first fourteen `spies' to be pubicly hanged on 27th January 1969....The public hangings turned into a national holiday with live television and radio coverage, and the Ba'ath Party organized the transport of some hundred thousand `workers and peasants' from outside Baghdad to join in...Families picknicked under trees while watching the hangings. This public orgy of death went on for twenty-four hours..." Page 206 Source: Unholy Babylon-The Secret History of Saddam's War by Adel Darwish and Gregory Alexander St. Martin's Press, New York 1991 ISBN 0-312-06530-2 "Compare the January 1969 show trial with another spectacle organized by the first Ba'thi regime in 1963 and designed to counter the continuing popularity of the ousted president, `Abd al-Karim Qassem, among certain sectors of the Shi'ite population of Baghdad. In the first week of the coup, the citizens of al-Thawra, a suburb of Baghdad, had fought the army and Ba'thist militia in some of the bloodiest street battles in the history of the country. They refused to believe that Qassem had been overthrown....The Ba'ath...dealt with this emotive imagery by televising a lengthy film clip displaying Qassem's bullet-ridden corpse. Night after night, they made their gruesome point. The body was propped up on a chair in the studio. A soldier saunter around, handling its parts. The camera would cut to scenes of devastation at the Ministry of Defence where Qassem had made his last stand. There, on location, it lingered on the mutilated corpses of Qassem's entourage...Back to the studio, and close-ups now of the entry and exit points of each bullet hole. The whole macabre sequence closes with a scene that must forever remain etched on the memory of all those who saw it: the soldier grabbing the lolling head by the hair, came right up close, and spat full face into it. The fear that the Ba'th were trying to instill in this and other instances was brutally direct. The centuries-old message was simple: he is dead, you had better believe it, we can do the smae to you. The fact that it was on television extended its reach..." Pages 58-59. Source: Republic of Fear The Inside Story of Saddam's Iraq by Samir al Khalil Pantheon Books, New York 1989 ISBN 0-679-73502-X "An Afghani tends to a field of heroin poppies, the sale of which provides much of the financing for the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Afghanistan is the world's No. 1 producer and distributor of heroin, and illicit drug trafficking is the biggest funding source for By Rachel Ehrenfeld / Special to The Detroit News About the author Rachel Ehrenfeld is director of the New York-based Center for the Study of Corruption and the author of "Evil Money" (HarperBusiness) and "Narco-Terrorism" (Basic Books). Moving the money... In the welter of events following the bombing of the World Trade Center in Feb. 26, 1993, few noticed that the first man arrested, Mohammed Salameh—the poor, unemployed illegal immigrant— offered $5 million for bail. Where could he get this kind of money? The judge refused bail. But was the source of Salameh's offer the same as the one that funded the eight men—arrested shortly afterward—who planned to blow up Manhattan's tunnels and bridges and to assassinate public officials? Were the same money sources behind the final attack on the World Trade Center on Sept. 11? ... For a long time, there has been evidence that terrorist, international drug trafficking and criminal organizations use the same fund-raising methods to enrich themselves. Yet no one seemed to connect the dots. And no one seriously tried to crack down on their financing. Bin Laden's is only one among many hostile international criminal organizations, often state-sponsored, that will do whatever they can to diminish the status of the United States as the only superpower. According to a State Department report, the Taliban, who are at bin Laden's service, has the advantage of controlling the world's largest heroin production and distribution in the world. Since the Taliban took over Afghanistan, the heroin production soared to hundreds of tons each year. In 1999 alone, the world production of heroin was estimated at 500 metric tons; 400 were produced by the Taliban and available to fund bin Laden and his associates worldwide. First warning The writing was on the wall on July 5, 1991, when the Bank of England shut down what was the most important Islamic bank in the world, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). This criminal entity was created by the Pakistani Aaga Hassan Abedi "to fight the evil influence of the West"; to help with the creation of the "Islamic Bomb"; to finance all Muslim terrorist organizations; and to launder the money that was generated mostly by illicit drug trafficking and other illegal activities, including arms trafficking. When BCCI went belly up, we learned from thousands of documents that Abu Nidal—the notorious Palestinian terrorist organization that now enjoys the hospitality of Iraq's Saddam Hussein, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), Hezbollah and bin Laden—had accounts in the bank. By the end of the 1980s, the "special services" provided by BCCI included access to Western humanitarian and international development funds, as well as drug money laundering, secret transfers of cash and bribes. A "Black Network," a special enforcement unit supported by Abu Nidal and other terrorist organizations, operated from Pakistan. The same Pakistan that harbored bin Laden for many years while its officials told the United States that they didn't know his whereabouts. And the same Pakistan that for decades, even according to the State Department's annual report, had been a major drug trafficking and money laundering center. Western blindness Yet, now more importantly, we also discovered that the American and British governments knew and kept the bank open for a long time. The bank "that would bribe God" was able to get away with its criminal activities for decades due to Abedi's clever portrayal of the Muslim nations as victims of Western—and particularly U.S.— "imperialism." And when the bank was shuttered, the accusation in the Muslim/Arab and Third World countries was that the U.S. and the United Kingdom governments closed the bank to curtail the growing fiscal power of Muslim countries. Like Abedi, anti-American, anti-Western terrorist and radical Muslim states and organizations, such as the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO, Iraq and Iran, use Western democratic rhetoric to their advantage. But it is the willful blindness, mainly toward the growing volume of drug money laundering, exercised by Western bankers on the one hand and Western politicians on the other, that makes money laundering possible, despite the many laws and international conventions to control this phenomenon. The BCCI was the first warning to the West. The second warning about the abuse of European and American financial markets by terrorist organizations, as well as their involvement in the illicit arms and drug trade, was made in February 1994 by the British National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS). The Organized Crime Unit of the NCIS warned that Middle East terrorist groups and states were targeting the financial centers of London, Frankfurt and other Western countries, and that they favor illegal drug trafficking, money laundering and fraud.... Clinton appeasement Despite its stated policy of not negotiating with terrorists, the Clinton administration went out of its way to appease a few of the 20th century's most notorious terror groups: the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), the PLO and the Irish Republican Army. All are heavily involved in the drug trade. On the eve of the 1993 handshake on the White House lawn between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin and PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat, Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service estimated the PLO's ill-gotten gains to total between $8 billion to $10 billion, with an annual income of about $1.5 billion to $2 billion from "donations, extortion, payoffs, illegal arms dealing, drug trafficking, money laundering, fraud, etc." Since then, Washington has only aided and abetted the PLO. Since the start of the Oslo process, Arafat has received at least $3 billion more from the United States and the international community, without any serious demand for accountability, according to a report this year to Congress. Arafat, in well-documented instances, has been systematically skimming off portions of these funds, as he has with monies given to him on behalf of the refugees in the camps. The PLO was in the drug trafficking business almost from the beginning. Operating from Lebanon, under Habash's able leadership and assisted by a PLO-owned shipping company SUMUD, the organization exported hashish, opium, heroin and cocaine, first to Europe and later even to the United States and Australia. In return, it obtained weapons for their war against Israel and the West, and amassed a massive treasure trove. In addition, the PLO and Arafat, who enjoy the financial and strategic support of Hussein and bin Laden, have the distinction of being the organization that promoted "suicide bombers" as a weapon. Yet the Clinton administration subsidized a multitude of radical Palestinian groups, ranging from Arafat's Fatah branch of the PLO and its military wing, the Tanzim, to the socialist-nationalist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), headed by George Habash, all with close ties to bin Laden, Iraq and Iran. ...It was the Clinton White House that, despite evidence to the contrary, removed Syria from its list of the drug trafficking countries, to entice Syria to join the "peace process" in the Middle East. The failure of that process and the compromises the United States has made to maintain an illusion of peaceful prospects had no doubt added to the Muslim radical terrorists' resolve to attack what they see as a naive and vulnerable America. In another example of self-delusion, in 1999, then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright suggested a U.S.-led coalition to negotiate with the FARC and supported Colombia President Pastrana's "land for peace" initiative, despite a report from the General Accounting Office that the FARC is running a major international criminal enterprise that, among other things, supplies hundreds of tons of cocaine and heroin to the U.S. black market. This second Clinton "land for peace" initiative gave half of Colombia to the narco-terrorist FARC, while doing nothing to diminish its violence or appetite to control the rest of the country...." Source: http://www.detnews.com/2001/editorial/0109/30/a17-306400.htm Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon called the Palestinian Authority a "gang of corrupt assassins and terrorists." "There is an obstacle [to peace] with the gang of corrupt assassins and terrorists that lead the Palestinian Authority," Sharon said in a televised speech in Israel. "The only way to peace is to remove this murderous posse." – Source: New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com Sharon raps Arafat `assassins' By KENNETH R. BAZINET DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU Thursday, August 8th, 2002 "Bush back from surprise Iraq trip President Bush has arrived back in the United States after a surprise trip to Baghdad, where he spent two hours with US troops celebrating Thanksgiving Day. Mr. Bush told troops the US would not be swayed by ongoing attacks in Iraq. "We did not charge hundreds of miles into the heart of Iraq, pay a bitter cost of casualties, defeat a ruthless dictator and liberate 25 million people only to retreat before a band of thugs and assassins," he told 600 US soldiers. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3245584.stm "President Bush and his wife, Laura, along with former president George H. W. Bush, welcome the King and Queen of Spain, Juan and Sofia Carlos, to their ranch Wednesday, Nov. 24, 2004, in Crawford, Texas.(AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)" Source: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=story&u=/041124/480/txlj10111241820 A small jet chartered to fly former President Bush to Ecuador Monday,November 22nd, 2004 was well below normal altitude when it clipped a toll road light tower and crashed into a muddy field three miles south of Hobby Airport, killing the crew of three.The plane, which belonged to Jet Place Inc. of Tulsa, Okla., came from Love Field in Dallas. It was approaching the runway when the wing and the landing gear on the right side clipped the pole on a tollway road....." "Weeks after the last pile of debris from EgyptAir Flight 990 was pulled from the sea, investigators say they are more convinced than ever of their original theory: The jet was crashed deliberately." http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/egyptair000121.html "The co-pilot under scrutiny in the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990 uttered an Arabic prayer not once but as many as 10 times just before the doomed airliner went down" http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/egyptair991121.html "Aviation Analyst John Nance Talks About Flight 990 When a commercial aircraft goes into a dive as steep and precipitous as the preliminary radar data seems to indicate." http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/chat_johnnance110199.html "The White House is bordered on three sides by buildings that are as tall or taller than itself. (OEOB, Treasury, and Blair House.) Beyond these buildings there are still more buildings, that also are taller than the White House. The only flight path that is relatively unobstructed if making a controlled, straight-in approach, is from the south, over the ellipse. Even the Marine helicopter the president uses comes in from this direction and lands on the South Lawn. The problem with flying a plane the size of a 757 or 767 in from this direction is that there's a 555 ft tall structure in the way called the Washington Monument. The Capitol, although a bigger target, is similarly situated. There are buildings on all sides except for the west side, which faces the Mall. Again, for a controlled, straight-in approach, a pilot first would need to avoid the Washington Monument, and then fly straight down the Mall. There is more room to do this, but again, it would take considerable skill. Moreover, the buildings in Roslyn, just across the river from and to the west of the Mall, would have to be cleared, which means the plane's altitude would probably be too high, or the angle of descent too steep to permit a successful attack by anyone other than a skilled, experienced pilot." Imagine the rage and fury of Saddam Hussein "On February 26th, 1982 the Reagan Administration told Congress that it had dropped Iraq from the list of nations that supported acts of international terrorism. Baghdad would now be eligible for American government loan guarantees." source: SPIDER'S WEB: THE SECRET HISTORY OF HOW THE WHITE HOUSE ILLEGALLY ARMED IRAQ by Alan Friedman ASIN: 0553096508 Imagine Saddam's rage and fury when Kuwait was liberated on February 26th, 1991, 9 years to the day after the event described above! Is it any wonder that Saddam would launch the first of his 2 attacks on the World Trade Center on February 26th, 1993, the 2nd anniversary of the liberation of Kuwait City, and the 11th anniversary of the event described above, and that he would launch his 2nd attack on the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001, the 11th anniversary of the Bush I speech to Congress on Iraq. Saddam loves 11th anniversaries, for instance " Saddam Hussein's speech on the 11th Anniversary of the Great Victory Day In the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful Great People, The Valiant of Our Brave Armed Forces, Sons of our Glorious Arab Nation…" http://www.index.com.jo/iraqtoday/auguste.html Saddam took credit for the September 11th attacks on America on Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television. Saddam sent his henchman Osama bin Laden to attack America and to assassinate former President Bush, who was at the White House on the morning of September 11th, 2001,just as he had tried to assassinate former President Bush in Kuwait in 1993. That is why Flight 93 was selected to hit the White House on the morning of September 11th, 2001. Fortunately the heroes of Flight 93 stopped that from happening and the plane went down in Pennsylvania. Second Attempt to Assassinate President Bush. We all know that Saddam Hussein attempted to assassinate former President Bush in Kuwait in 1993. Laura Bush, wife of the current President Bush, along with the current President Bush's brothers, his parents, and former Secretary of State Baker were actually in the air enroute to Kuwait when the intelligence came in and their plane was turned back. Then President Clinton later bombed an empty Iraqi intelligence building in retaliation for that attempt in which Saddam's homicide bombers were caught in Kuwait. We believe that the Second Attempt to assassinate former President George Herbert Walker Bush was made by Saddam Hussein using his henchman Osama bin Laden on September 11th, 2001. September 11th, 1990 Dubya's Dad Speaks to Congress on Iraq When September 11th Yes ! September 11th 1990. Exactly 11 years to the day before the infamous September 11th 2001 attacks on America. Saddam's Revenge !!! How clear it is!!! "Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the Persian Gulf Crisis and the Federal Budget Deficit September 11, 1990. We gather tonight, witness to events in the Persian Gulf as significant as they are tragic. In the early morning hours of August 2d, following negotiations and promises by Iraq's dictator Saddam Hussein not to use force, a powerful Iraqi army invaded its trusting and much weaker neighbor, Kuwait. *** The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective-a new world order-can emerge. ***" READ THE WHOLE OF DUBYA'S DADDY'S SPEECH TO CONGRESS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 1990 AT http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/ "Note: The President spoke at 9:09 p.m.in the House Chamber at the Capitol.. The address was broadcast live on nationwide television and radio." http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/ Iraq Cheers September 11th Attacks on America "Wednesday, September 12, 2001 Baghdad TV Commentary: US `Reaping Fruits of Crimes Against Humanity' Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television in Arabic 1700 GMT 11 Sep 01 [TV Commentary by Sa'd Yasin Yusuf read by announcer over footage of explosions in New York] [FBIS Translated Text] [With thanks to Laurie Mylorie - Iraq Watch] The American cowboy is reaping the fruits of his crimes against humanity. It is a black day in the history of America, which is tasting the bitter defeat of its crimes and disregard for peoples' will to lead a free, decent life. The massive explosions in the centers of power in America, notably the Pentagon, is a painful slap in the face of US politicians to stop their illegitimate hegemony and attempts to impose custodianship on peoples. It was no coincidence that the World Trade Center was destroyed in suicidal operations involving two planes that have broken through all US security barriers to carry the operation of the century and to express rejection of the reckless US policy. Panic has spread among US official circles, which evacuated the White House following a series of explosions. They also evacuated the Pentagon, the State Department, and Congress and closed down the airports and government institutions. The collapse of US centers of power is a collapse of the US policy, which deviates from human values and stands by world Zionism at all international forums to continue to slaughter the Palestinian Arab people and implement US plans to dominate the world under the cover of what is called the new [world] order. These are the fruits of the new US order. [Video of explosion rocking World Trade Center] [Description of Source: Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television in Arabic-Official television station of the Iraqi Government]" http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3 "BLITZER: That's Osama bin Laden's group. Now you also have some new information, David, about Mohamed Atta. He's the suspected ringleader of the September 11th hijackings. ENSOR: Well, that's right. As you know, he was one of the suicide hijackers who died on September 11th on one of those aircraft. And we had previously reported on September 19th that he met with an Iraqi intelligence official somewhere in Europe. Well, I'm now able to tell you, based on information from U.S. sources, he met not once but twice with Iraqi intelligence officers in Prague in the Czech Republic: once last year in June of 2000 and once in April of 2001." http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/10/lkl.00.html Aired 9/11/2001 "Baghdad Republic of Iraq TV: These are the fruits of the new US order.[Video of explosion rocking World Trade Center]Panic has spread among US official circles, which evacuated the White House following a series of explosions." "CNN LARRY KING LIVE Aired October 2, 2001 LARRY KING: Have you spoken to your father- in-law? (George Herbert Walker Bush) LAURA BUSH: I've spoken to my father-in-law. They were-they had actually spent that Monday night here.(at the White House) I had just seen them off that morning (9/11/2001) when I got in the car and found out about the first plane.(going into the World Trade Center.)" http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/02/lkl.00.html "Senator Joseph Lieberman: (Saddam) tried to kill former President Bush (in 1993)" http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/25/le.00.html Former President Bush Speech to Congress September 11th 1990. 11 years to the day before September 11th 2001 "In the early morning hours of August 2d,(1990),a powerful Iraqi army invaded Kuwait.The crisis in the Persian Gulf also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective-a new world order-can emerge." http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/ "(White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: we have real and credible information that the airplane that landed at the Pentagon was originally intended to hit the White House." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010912- 8.html#intended-targets "White House Was Flight 93 Target http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/20/attack/main509535.shtml A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the intended target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House. Government sources said Abu Zubaydah, now in U.S. custody, believed to be the source of the information." "Moussaoui Says He Was to Hijack 5th Plane By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer (Monday March 27, 2006) Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House. Moussaoui's testimony on his own behalf stunned the courtroom. His account was in stark contrast to his previous statements in which he said the White House attack was to come later if the United States refused to release a radical Egyptian sheik imprisoned on earlier terrorist convictions. On Dec. 22, 2001, Reid was subdued by passengers when he attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe aboard American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami. There were 197 people on board. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely. Moussaoui told the court he knew the World Trade Center attack was coming and that he lied to investigators when arrested in August 2001 because he wanted it to happen. "You lied because you wanted to conceal that you were a member of al- Qaida?" prosecutor Rob Spencer asked. "That's correct," Moussaoui said. Spencer: "You lied so the plan could go forward?" Moussaoui: "That's correct." The exchange was key to the government's case that the attacks might have been averted if Moussaoui had been more cooperative following his arrest. Moussaoui told the court he knew the attacks were coming some time after August 2001 and bought a radio so he could hear them unfold. Specifically, he said he knew the World Trade Center was going to be attacked, but asserted he was not part of that plot and didn't know the details. Nineteen men pulled off the Sept. 11 attacks on New York in Washington in the worst act of terrorism ever on U.S. soil. "I had knowledge that the Twin Towers would be hit," Moussaoui said. "I didn't know the details of this." Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as "the 20th hijacker," Moussaoui replied: "Because everybody used to refer to me as the 20th hijacker and it was a bit of fun." Before Moussaoui took the stand, his lawyers made a last attempt to stop him from testifying, but failed. Defense attorney Gerald Zerkin argued that his client would not be a competent witness because he has contempt for the court, only recognizes Islamic law and therefore "the affirmation he undertakes would be meaningless." Moussaoui at first denied he was to have been a fifth hijack pilot Sept. 11 but under cross examination spoke of the plan that would have him attack the White House. He said Reid was the only person he knew for sure would have been on that mission, but others were discussed. The 19 terrorists on Sept. 11 hijacked and crashed four airliners, killing nearly 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and on the planes. The intended target of the plane that crashed into a Pennsylvania field remains unknown. Moussaoui said he talked with an al-Qaida official in 1999 about why a 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center failed to bring the towers down. He said "was asked in the same period for the first time if I want to be a suicide pilot and I declined." Just before Moussaoui took the stand, the court heard testimony that two months before the attacks that a CIA deputy chief waited in vain for permission to tell the FBI about a "very high interest" al-Qaida operative who became one of the hijackers. The official, a senior figure in the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit, said he sought authorization on July 13, 2001, to send information to the FBI but got no response for 10 days, then asked again. As it turned out, the information on Khalid al-Mihdhar did not reach the FBI until late August. At the time, CIA officers needed permission from a special unit before passing certain intelligence on to the FBI. The official was identified only as John. His written testimony was read into the record. "John's" testimony was part of the defense's case that federal authorities missed multiple opportunities to catch hijackers and perhaps thwart the 9/11 plot. His testimony included an e-mail sent by FBI supervisor Michael Maltbie discussing Moussaoui but playing down his terrorist connections. Maltbie's e-mail said "there's no indication that (Moussaoui) had plans for any nefarious activity." He sent that e-mail to the CIA even after receiving a lengthy memo from the FBI agent who arrested Moussaoui and suspected him of being a terrorist with plans to hijack aircraft. Prosecutors argue that Moussaoui, a French citizen, thwarted a prime opportunity to track down the 9/11 hijackers and possibly unravel the plot when he was arrested in August 2001 on immigration violations and lied to the FBI about his al-Qaida membership and plans to hijack a plane. Had Moussaoui confessed, the FBI could have pursued leads that would have led them to most of the hijackers, government witnesses have testified. To win the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove that Moussaoui's actions — specifically, his lies — were directly responsible for at least one death on Sept. 11. If they fail, Moussaoui would get life in prison. ___ Associated Press Writer Michael J. Sniffen contributed to this report source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_14&printer= 1;_ylt=Ags6isPJuz93w2EYYRP9gnVH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

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How many of you can't read this? The Unthinkable Thought "Jesus said, 'It is to those who are worthy of my Mysteries that I tell my Mysteries.'" The Gospel of Thomas On the site where the Vatican now stands there once stood a Pagan temple. Here Pagan priests observed sacred ceremonies which early Christians found so disturbing that they tried to erase all evidence of them ever having been practised. What were these shocking Pagan rites? Gruesome sacrifices or obscene orgies perhaps. This is what we have been led to believe. But the truth is far stranger than this fiction. Where today the gathered faithful revere their Lord Jesus Christ, the ancients worshipped another godman who, like Jesus, had been miraculously born on 25 December before three shepherds. In this ancient sanctuary Pagan congregations once glorified a Pagan redeemer who, like lesus, was said to have ascended to heaven and to have promised to come again at the end of time to judge the quick and the dead. On the same spot where the Pope celebrates the Catholic mass, Pagan priests also celebrated a symbolic meal of bread and wine in memory of their saviour who, just like Tesus, had declared: "He who will not eat of my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made one with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation." When we began to uncover such extraordinary similarities between the story of Jesus and Pagan myth we were stunned. We had been brought up in a culture which portrays Paganism and Christianity as entirely antagonistic religious perspectives. How could such astonishing resemblances be explained? We were intrigued and began to search further. The more we looked, the more resemblances we found. To account for the wealth of evidence we were unearthing we felt compelled to completely review our understanding of the relationship between Paganism and Christianity, to question beliefs that we previously regarded as unquestionable and to imagine possibilities which at first seemed impossible. Some readers will find our conclusions shocking and others heretical, but for us they are merely the simplest and most obvious way of accounting for the evidence we have amassed. We have become convinced that the story of Jesus is not the biography of an historical Messiah, but a myth based on perennial Pagan stories. Christianity was not a new and unique revelation but actually a Jewish adaptation of the ancient Pagan Mystery religion. This is what we have called 'the Jesus Mysteries Thesis.' It may sound farfetched at first, just as it did initially to us. There is, after all, a great deal of unsubstantiated nonsense written about the 'real' Jesus, so any revolutionary theory should be approached with a healthy dose of scepticism. But although this book makes extraordinary claims, it is not just entertaining fantasy or sensational speculation. It is firmly based upon the available historical sources and the latest scholarly research. Whilst we hope to have made it accessible to the general reader, we have also included copious notes giving sources, references and greater detail for those who wish to analyse our arguments more thoroughly. Although still radical and challenging today, many of the ideas we explore are actually far from new. As long ago as the Renaissance, mystics and scholars saw the origins of christianity in the ancient Egyptian religion. Visionary scholars at the turn of the nineteenth century also made com-paxable conjectures to our own. In recent decades, modern academics have repeatedly pointed towards the possibilities we consider. Yet few have dared to boldly state the obvious conclusions which we have drawn. Why? Because to do so is taboo. For 2,000 years the West has been dominated by the idea that Christianity is sacred and unique, whilst Paganism is primitive and the work of the Devil. To even consider that they could be parts of the same tradition has been simply unthinkable. Therefore, although the true origins of Christianity have been obvious all along, few have been able to see them, because to do so requires a radical break with the conditioning of our culture. Our contribution has been to dare to think the unthinkable and to present our conclusions in a popular book rather than some dry academic tome. This is certainly not the last word on this complex subject, but we hope it may be a significant call for a complete reappraisal of the origins of Christianity. THE PAGAN MYSTERIES In Greek tragedies the chorus reveals the fate of the protagonists before the play begins. Sometimes it is easier to understand the journey if one is already aware of the destination and the terrain to be covered. Before diving deeper into detail, therefore, we would like to retrace our process of discovery and so provide a brief overview of the book. We had shared an obsession with world mysticism all our lives which recently had led us to explore spirituality in the ancient world. Popular understanding inevtitably lags a long way behind the cutting edge of scholarly research and, like most people, we initially had an inaccurate and out-dated view of Paganism. We had been taught to imagine a primitive superstition which indulged in idol worship and bloody sacrifice, and dry philosophers wearing togas stumbling blindly towards what we today call 'science.' We were familiar with various Greek myths which showed the partisan and capricious nature of the Olympian gods and goddesses. All in all, Paganism seemed primitive and fundamentally alien. After many years of study, however, our understanding has been transformed. Pagan spirituality was actually the sophisticated product of a highly developed culture. The state religions, such as the Greek worship of the Olympian gods, were little more than outer pomp and ceremony. The real spirituality of the people expressed itself through the vibrant and mystical 'Mystery religions.' At first underground and heretical movements, these Mysteries spread and flourished throughout the ancient Mediterranean, inspiring the greatest minds of the Pagan world, who regarded them as the very source of civilization. Each Mystery tradition had exoteric Outer Mysteries, consisting of myths which were common knowledge and rituals which were open to anyone who wanted to participate. There were also esoteric Inner Mysteries, which were a sacred secret only known to those who had undergone a powerful process of initiation. Initiates of the Inner Mysteries had the mystical meaning of the rituals and myths of the Outer Mysteries revealed to them, a process which brought about personal transformation and spiritual enlightenment. The philosophers of the ancient world were the spiritual masters of the Inner Mysteries. They were mystics and miracle-workers, more comparable to Hindu gurus than dusty academics. The great Greek philosopher Pythagoras, for example, is remembered today for his mathematical theorem, but few people picture him as he actually was a flamboyant sage who was believed to be able to miraculously still the winds and raise the dead. At the heart of the Mysteries were myths concerning a dying and resurrecting godman, who was known by many different names. In Egyp he was Osiris, in Greece Dionysus, in Asia Minor Attis, in Syria Adonis, in Italy Bacchus, in Persia Mithras. Fundamentally all these godmen are the same mythical being. As was the practice from as early as the third century BCE, in this book we will use the combined name "Osiris-Dionysus" to denote his universal and composite nature, and his particular names when referring to a specific Mystery tradition. From the fifth century BCE philosophers such as Xenophanes and Empedocles had ridiculed taking the stories of the gods and goddesses literally. They viewed them as allegories of human spiritual experience. The myths of Osiris-Dionysus should not be understood as just intriguing tales, therefore, but as a symbolic language which encodes the mystical teachings of the Inner Mysteries. Because of this, although the details were developed and adapted over time by different cultures, the myth of Osiris-Dionysus has remained essentially the same. The various myths of the different godmen of the Mysteries share what the great mythologist Joseph Campbell called 'the same anatomy', just as every human is physically unique yet it is possible to talk of the general anatomy of the human body, so with these different myths it is possible to see both their uniqueness and fundamental sameness. A helpful comparison may be the relationship between Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet and Bernstein's West Side Story. One is a sixteenth-century English tragedy about wealthy Italian families, whilst the other is a twentieth-century American musical about street gangs. On the face of it they look very different, yet they are essentially the same story. Similarly, the tales told about the godmen of the Pagan Mysteries are essentially the same, although they take different forms. The more we studied the various versions of the myth of Osiris-Dionysus, the more it became obvious that the story of Jesus had all the characteristics of this perennial tale. Event by event, we found we were able to construct Jesus' supposed biography from mythic motifs previousl3 relating to Osiris-Dionysus: - Osiris-Dionysus is God made flesh, the saviour and 'Son of God'. - His father is God and his mother is a mortal virgin. - He is born in a cave or humble cowshed on 25 December before three shepherds. - He offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites ot baptism. - He miraculously turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony. - He rides triumphantly into town on a donkey while people wave palm leaves to honour him. - He dies at Eastertime as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. - After his death he descends to hell, then on the third day he rises from the dead and ascends to heaven in glory. - His followers await his return as the judge during the Last Days. - His death and resurrection are celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine which symbolize his body and blood. These are just some of the motifs shared between the tales of Osiris-Dionysus and the 'biography' of Jesus. Why are these remarkable similarities not common knowledge? Because, as we were to discover later, the early Roman Church did everything in its power to prevent us perceiving them. It systematically destroyed Pagan sacred literature in a brutal programme of eradicating the Mysteries -- a task it performed so completely that today Paganism is regarded as a 'dead' religion. Although surprising to us now, to writers of the first few centuries CE these similarities between the new Christian religion and the ancient Mysteries were extremely obvious. Pagan critics of Christianity, such as the satirist Celsus, complained that this recent religion was nothing more than a pale reflection of their own ancient teachings. Early 'Church fathers,' such as Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Irenaeus, were understandably disturbed and resorted to the desperate claim that these similarities were the result of 'diabolical mimicry.' Using one of the most absurd arguments ever advanced, they accused the Devil of 'plagiarism by anticipation,' of deviously copying the true story of Jesus before it had actually happened in an attempt to mislead the gullible! These Church fathers struck us as no less devious than the Devil they hoped to incriminate. Other Christian commentators have claimed that the myths of the Mysteries were like pre-echoes of the literal coming of Jesus, somewhat like premonitions or prophecies. This is a more generous version of the'diabolical mimicry' theory, but seemed no less ridiculous to us. There was nothing other than cultural prejudice to make us see the Jesus story as the literal culmination of its many mythical precursors. Viewed impartially, it appeared to be just another version of the same basic story. The obvious explanation is that as early Christianity became the dominant power in the previously Pagan world, popular motifs from Pagan mythology became grafted onto the biography of Jesus. This is a possibility that is even put forward by many Christian theologians. The virgin birth, for example, is often regarded as an extraneous later addition that should not be understood literally. Such motifs were 'borrowed' from Paganism in the same way that Pagan festivals were adopted as Christian saints' days. This theory is common amongst those who go looking for the 'real' Jesus hidden under the weight of accumulated mythological debris. Attractive as it appears at first, to us this explanarion seemed inadequate.We had collated such a comprehensive body of similarities that there remained hardly any significant elements in the biography of Jesus that we did not find prefigured by the Mysteries. On top of this, we discovered that even Jesus' teachings were not original, but had been anticipated by the Pagan sages! If there was a 'real' Jesus somewhere underneath all this, we would have to acknowledge that we could know absolutely nothing about him, for all that remained for us was later Pagan accretions! Such a position seemed absurd. Surely there was a more elegant solution to this conundrum. THE GNOSTICS Whilst we were puzzling over these discoveries, we began to question the received picture of the early Church and have a look at the evidence for ourselves. We discovered that far from being the united congregation of saints and martyrs that traditiona! history would have us believe, the early Christian community was actually made up of a whole spectrum of different groups. These can be broadly categorized into two different schools. On the one hand there were those we will call 'Literalists', because what defines them is that they take the Jesus story as a literal account of historical events. It was this school of Christianity that was adopted by the Roman Empire in the fourth century CE, becoming Roman Catholicism and all its subsequent offshoots. On the other hand, however, there were also radically diffejent Christians known as 'Gnostics.' These forgotten Christians were later persecuted out of existence by the Literalist Roman Church with such thoroughness that until recently we knew little about them except through the writings of their detractors. Only a handful of original Gnostic texts survived, none of which were published before the nineteenth century. This situation changed dramatically, however, with a remarkable discovery in 1945 when an Arab peasant stumbled upon a whole library of Gnostic gospels hidden in a cave near Nag Hammadi in Egypt. This gave scholars access to many texts which were in wide circulation amongst early Christians, but which were deliberately excluded from the canon of the New Testament -- gospels attributed to Thomas and Philip, texts recording the acts of Peter and the 12 disciples, apocalypses attributed to Paul and James, and so on. It seemed to us extraordinary that a whole library of early Christian documents could be discovered, containing what purport to be the teachings of Christ and his disciples, and yet so few modem followers of Jesus should even know of their existence. Why hasn't every Christian rushed out to read these newly discovered words of the Master? What keeps them confined to the small number of gospels selected for inclusion in the New Testament? It seems that even though 2,000 years have passed since the Gnostics were purged, during which time the Roman Church has split into Protestantism and thousands of other alternative groups, the Gnostics are still not regarded as a legitimate voice of Christianity. Those who do explore the Gnostic gospels discover a form of Christianity quite alien to the religion with which they are familiar. We found ourselves studying strange esoteric tracts with titles such as Hypostasis of the Archons and The Thought of Norea. It felt as if we were in an episode of Star Trek -- and in a way we were. The Gnostics truly were 'psychonauts' who boldly explored the final frontiers of inner space, searching for the origins and meaning of life. These people were mystics and creative free-thinkers. It was obvious to us why they were so hated by the bishops of the Literalist Church hierarchy. To Literalists, the Gnostics were dangerous heretics. In volumes of anti-Gnostic works -- an unintentional testimony to the power and influence of Gnosticism within early Christianity -- they painted them as Christians who had 'gone native.' They claimed they had become contaminated by the Paganism that surrounded them and had abandoned the purity of the true faith. The Gnostics, on the other hand, saw themselves as the authentic Christian tradition and the orthodox bishops as an 'imitation church.' They claimed to know the secret Inner Mysteries of Christianity which the Literslists did not possess. As we explored the beliefs and practices of the Gnostics we became convinced that the Literalists had at least been right about one thing: the Gnostics were little different from Pagans. Like the philosophers of the Pagan Mysteries, they believed in reincarnation, honoured the goddess Sophia, and were immersed in the mystical Greek philosophy of Plato. 'Gnostics' means 'Knowers', a name they acquired because, like the initiates of the Pagan Mysteries, they believed that their secret teachings had the power to impart 'Gnosis' -- direct experiential 'Knowledge of God.' Just as the goal of a Pagan initiate was to become a god, so for the Gnostics the goal of the Christian initiate was to become a Christ. What particularly struck us was that the Gnostics were not concerned with the historical Jesus. They viewed the Jesus story in the same way that the Pagan philosophers viewed the myths of Osiris-Dionysus -- as an allegory which encoded secret mystical teachings. This insight crystallized for us a remarkable possibility. Perhaps the explanation for the similarities between Pagan myths and the biography of Jesus had been staring us in the face the whole time, but we had been so caught up with traditional ways of thinking that we had been unable to see it. THE JESUS MYSTERIES THESIS The traditional version of history bequeathed to us by the authorities of the Roman Church is that Christianity developed from the teachings of a Jewish Messiah and that Gnosticism was a later deviation. What would happen, we wondered if the picture were reversed and Gnosticism viewed as the authentic Christianity, just as the Gnostics themselves claimed? Could it be that orthodox Christianity was a later deviation from Gnosticism and that Gnosticism was a synthesis of Judaism and the Pagan Mystery religion? This was the beginning of the Jesus Mysteries Thesis. Boldly stated, the picture that emerged for us was as follows. We knew that most ancient Mediterranean cultures had adopted the ancient Mysteries, adapting them to their own national tastes and creating their own version of the myth of the dying and resurrecting godman. Perhaps some of the Jews had likewise adopted the Pagan Mysteries and created their own version of the Mysteries which we now know as Gnosticism. Perhaps initiates of the Jewish Mysteries had adapted the potent symbolism of the Osiris-Dionysus myths into a myth of their own, the hero of which was the Jewish dying and ~surreeting godman Jesus. If this was so, then the Jesus story was not a biography at all but a consciously crafted vehicle for encoded spiritual teachings created by Jewish Gnostics. As in the Pagan Mysteries, initiation into the Inner Mysteries would reveal the myth's allegorical meaning. Perhaps those uninitiated into the Inner Mysteries had mistakenly come to regard the Jesus myth as historical fact and in this way Literalist Christianity had been created. Perhaps the Inner Mysteries of Christianity, which the Gnostics taught but which the Literalists denied existed, revealed that the Jesus story was not a factual account of God's one and only visit to planet Earth, but a mystical teaching story designed to help each one of us become a Christ. The Jesus story does have all the hallmarks of a myth, so could it be that that is exactly what it is? After all, no one has read the newly discovered Gnostic gospels and taken their fantastic stories as literally true; they are readily seen as myths. It is only familiarity and cultural prejudice which prevent us from seeing tlae New Testament gospels in the same light. If those gospels had also been lost to us and only recently discovered, who would read these tales for the first time and believe they were historical accounts of a man born of a virgin, who had walked on water and returned from the dead? Why should we consider the stories of Osiris, Dionysus, Adonis, Attis, Mithras and the other Pagan Mystery saviours as fables, yet come across essentially the same story told in a Jewish context and believe it to be the biography of a carpenter from Bethlehem? We had both been raised as Christians and were surprised to find that, despite years of open-minded spiritual exploration, it still felt somehow dangerous to even dare think such thoughts. Early indoctrination reaches very deep. We were in effect saying that Jesus was a Pagan god and that Christianity was a heretical product of Paganism! It seemed outrageous. Yet this theory explained the similarities between the stories of Osiris-Dionysus and Jesus Christ in a simple and elegant way. They are parts of one developing mythos. The Jesus Mysteries Thesis answered many puzzling questions, yet it also opened up new dilemmas. Isn't there indisputable historical evidence for the existence of Jesus the man? And how could Gnosticism be the original Christianity when St Paul, the earliest Christian we know about, is so vociferously anti-Gnostic? And is it really credible that such an insular and anti-Pagan people as the Jews could have adopted the Pagan Mysteries? And how could it have happened that a consciously created myth came to be believed as history? And if Gnosticism represents genuine Christianity, why was it Literalist Christianity that came to dominate the world as the most influential religion of all time? All of these difficult questions would have to be satisfactorily answered before we could wholeheartedly accept such a radical theory as the Jesus Mysteries Thesis. THE GREAT COVER UP Our new account of the origins of Christianity only seemed improbable because it contradicted the received view. As we pushed further with our research, the traditional picture began to completely unravel all around us. We found ourselves embroiled in a world of schism and power straggles, of forged documents and false identities, of letters that had been edited and added to, and of the wholesale destruction of historical evidence. We focused forensically on the few facts we could be confident of, as if we were detectives on the verge of cracking a sensational 'whodunnit', or perhaps more accurately as if we were uncovering an ancient and unacknowledged miscarriage of justice. For, time and again, when we critically examined what genuine evidence remained, we found that the history of Christianity bqueathed to us by the Roman Church was a gross distortion of the truth. Actually the evidence completely endorsed the Jesus Mysteries Thesis! It was becoming increasingly obvious that we had been deliberately deceived, that the Gnostics were indeed the original Christians, and that their anarchic mysticism had been hijacked by an authoritarian institution which had created from it a dogmatic religion - and then brutally enforced the greatest cover-up in history. One of the major players in this cover-up operation was a character called Eusebius, who, at the beginning of the fourth century, compiled from legends, fabrications and his own imagination the only early history of Christianity that still exists today. All subsequent histories have been forced to base themselves on Eusebins' dubious claims, because there has been little other information to draw on. All those with a different perspective on Christianity were branded as heretics and eradicated. In this way falsehoods compiled in the fourth century have come down to us as established facts. Eusebius was employed by the Roman Emperor Constantine, who made Christianity the state religion of the Empire and gave Literalist Christianity the power it needed to begin the final eradication of Paganism and Gnosticism. Constantine wanted 'one God, one religion' to consolidate his claim of 'one Empire, one Emperor.' He oversaw the creation of the Nicene creed -- the article of faith repeated in churches to this day -- and christians who refused to assent to this creed were banished from the Empire or otherwise silenced. This 'Christian' Emperor then returned home from Nicaea and had his wife suffocated and his son murdered. He deliberately remained unbaptized until his deathbed so that he could continue his atrocities and still receive forgiveness of sins and a guaranteed place in heaven by being baptized at the last moment. Although he had his 'spin doctor' Eusebius compose a suitably obsequious biography for him, he was actually a monster -- just like many Roman Emperors before him. Is it really at all surprising that a 'history' of the origins of Christianity created by an employee in the service of a Roman tyrant should turn out to be a pack of lies? Elaine PageIs, one of the foremost academic authorities on early Christianity, writes: "It is the winners who write history -- their way. No wonder, then, that the traditional accounts of the origins of Christianity first defined the terms (naming themselves "orthodox" and their opponents "heretics"); then they proceeded to demonstrate -- at least to their own satisfaction -- that their triumph was historically inevitable, or, in religious terms, "guided by the Holy Spirit." But the discoveries [of the Gnostic gospels] at Nag Hammadi reopen fundamental questions." History is indeed written by the victors. The creation of an appropriate history has always been part of the arsenal of political manipulation. The Roman Church created a history of the triumph of Literalist Christianity in much the same partisan way that, two millennia later, Hollywood created tales of 'cowboys and Indians' to relate 'how the West was won' not 'how the West was lost.' History is not simply related, it is created. Ideally, the motivation is to explain historical evidence and come to an accurate understanding of how the present has been created by the past. All too often, however, it is simply to glorify and justify the status quo. Such histories conceal as much as they reveal. To dare to question a received history is not easy. It is difficult to believe that something which you have been told is true from childhood could actually be a product of falsification and fantasy. It must have been hard for those Russians brought up on tales of kindly 'Uncle Joe' Stalin to accept that he was actually responsible for the deaths of millions. It must have strained credibility when those opposing his regime claimed that he had in fact murdered many of the heroes of the Russian revolution. It must have seemed ridiculous when they asserted that he had even had the images of his rivals removed from photographs and completely fabricated historical events. Yet all these things are true. It is easy to believe that something must be true because everyone else believes it. But the truth often only comes to light by daring to question the unquestionable, by doubting notions which are so commonly believed that they are taken for granted. The Jesus Mysteries Thesis is the product of such an openness of mind. When it first occurred to us, it seemed absurd and impossible. Now it seems obvious and ordinary. The Vatican was constructed upon the site of an ancient Pagan sanctuary because the new is always built upon the old. In the same way Christianity itself has as its foundations the Pagan spirituality that preceded it. What is more plausible than to posit the gradual evolution of spiritual ideas, with Christianity emerging from the ancient Pagan Mysteries in a seamless historical continuum? It is only because the conventional history has been so widely believed for so long that this idea could be seen as heretical and shocking. RECOVERING MYSTICAL CHRISTIANITY As the final pieces of the puzzle were falling into place, we came across a small picture tucked away in the appendices of an old academic book. It was a drawing of a third-century CE amulet. We have used it as the cover of this book. It shows a crucified figure which most people would immediately recognize as Jesus. Yet the Greek words name the figure 'Orpheus Bacchus,' one of the pseudonyms of Osiris-Dionysus. To the author of the book in which we found the picture, this amulet was an anomaly. Who could it have possibly belonged to? Was it a crucified Pagan deity or some sort of Gnostic synthesis of Paganism and Christianity? Either way it was deeply puzzling. For us, however, this amulet was perfectly understandable. It was an unexpected confirmation of the Jesus Mysteries Thesis. The image could be that of either Jesus or Osiris-Dionysus. To the initiated, these were both names for essentially the same figure. The 'chance' discovery of this amulet made us feel as though the universe itself was encouraging us to make our findings public. In different ways the Jesus Mysteries Thesis has been proposed by mystics and scholars for centuries, but has always ended up being ignored. It now felt like an idea whose moment had come. We did, however, have misgivings about writing this book. We knew that it would inevitably upset certain Christians, something which we had no desire to do. Certainly it has been hard to be constantly surrounded by lies and injustices without experiencing a certain amount of outrage at the negative misrepresentation of the Gnostics, and to have become aware of the great riches of Pagan culture without feeling grief that they were so wantonly destroyed. Yet we do not have some sort of anti-Christian agenda. Far from it. Those who have read our other works will know that our interest is not in further division, but in acknowledging the unity that lies at the heart of all spiritual traditions -- and this present book is no exception. Early Literalist Christians mistakenly believed that the Jesus story was different from other stories of Osiris-Dionysus because Jesus alone had been an historical rather than a mythical figure. This has left Christians feeling that their faith is in opposition to all others -- which it is not. We hope that by understanding its true origins in the ongoing evolution of a universal human spirituality, Christianity may be able to free itself from this self-imposed isolation. Whilst the Jesus Mysteries Thesis clearly rewrites history, we do not see it as undermining the Christian faith, but as suggesting that Christianity is in fact richer than we previously imagined. The Jesus story is a perennial myth with the power to impart the saving Gnosis which can transform each one of us into a Christ, not merely a history of events that happened to someone else 2,000 years ago. Belief in the Jesus story was originally the first step in Christian spirituality -- the Outer Mysteries. Its significance was to be explained by an enlightened teacher when the seeker was spiritually ripe. These Inner Mysteries imparted a mystical Knowledge of God beyond mere belief in dogmas. Although many inspired Christian mystics throughout history have intuitively seen through to this deeper symbolic level of understanding, as a culture we have inherited only the Outer Mysteries of Christianity. We have kept the form, but lost the inner meaning. Our hope is that this book can play some small part in reclaiming the true mystical Christian inheritance. The Pagan Mysteries "Blest is the happy man Who knows the Mysteries the gods ordain, And sanctifies his life, Joins soul with soul in mystic unity, And, by due ritual made pure Enters the ecstasy of mountain solitudes; Who observes the mystic rites Made lawful by the Great Mother; Who crowns his head with ivy, And shakes his wand in worship ot Dionysus." Euripides Paganism is a 'dead' religion -- or more accurately an 'exterminated' religion· It did not simply fade away into oblivion. It was actively suppressed and annihilated, its temples and shrines desecrated and demolished, and its great sacred books thrown onto bonfires. No living lineage has been left to explain its ancient beliefs. So, the Pagan worldview has to be reconstructed from the archaeological evidence and texts that have survived, like some giant metaphysical jigsaw puzzle. 'Pagan' was originally a derogatory term meaning 'country-dweller,' used by Christians to infer that the spirituality of the ancients was some primitive rural superstition. But this is not true. Paganism was the spirituality which inspired the unequalled magnificence of the Giza pyramids, the exquisite architecture of the Parthenon, the legendary sculptures of Phideas, the powerful plays of Euripides and Sophocles, and the sublime philosophy of Socrates and Plato. Pagan civilization built vast libraries to house hundreds of thousands of works of literary and scientific genius. Its natural philosophers speculated that human beings had evolved from animals. Its astronomers knew the Earth was a sphere which, along with the planets, revolves around the sun. They had even estimated its circumference to within one degree of accuracy? The ancient Pagan world sustained a population not matched again in Europe until the eighteenth century. In Greece, Pagan culture gave birth to the concepts of democracy, rational philosophy, public libraries, theatre and the Olympic Games, creating a blueprint for our modern world. What was the spirituality that inspired these momentous cultural achievements? Most people associate Paganism with either rustic witchcraft or the myths of the gods of Olympus as recorded by Hesiod and Homer. Pagan spirituality did indeed embrace both. The country people practised their traditional shamanic nature worship to maintain the fertility of the land and the city authorities propped up formal state religions, such as the worship of the Olympian gods, to maintain the power of the status quo. It was, however, a third, more mystical, expression of the Pagan spirit which inspired the great minds of the ancient world. The thinkers, artists and innovators of antiquity were initiates of various religions known as 'Mysteries.' These remarkable men and women held the Mysteries to be the heart and soul of their culture. The Greek historian Zosimos writes that without the Mysteries "life for the Greeks would be unlivable" for "the sacred Mysteries hold the whole human race together." The eminent Roman statesman Cicero enthuses: "These Mysteries have brought us from rustic savagery to a cultivated and refined civilisation. The rites of the Mysteries are called "initiations" and in truth we have learned trom them the first principles of life. We have gained the understanding not only to live happily but also to die with better hope." Unlike the traditional rituals of the official state religions, which were designed to aid social cohesion, the mysteries were an individualistic form of.spirituality which offered mystical visions and personal enlightenment. Initiates underwent a secret process of initiation which profoundly trans-r formed their state of consciousness. The poet Pindar reveals that an initiate into the Mysteries "knows the end of life and its God-given beginning." Lucius Apuleius, a poet-philosopher, writes of his experience of initiation as a spiritual rebirth which he celebrated as his birthday, an experience for which he felt a "debt of gratitude" that he "could never hope to repay." Plato, the most influential philosopher of all time, relates: "We beheld the beatific visions and were initiated into the Mystery which may be truly called blessed, celebrated by us in a state of innocence. We beheld calm, happy, simple, eternal visions, resplendent in pure light." The great Pagan philosophers were the enlightened masters of the Mysteries. Although they are often portrayed today as dry 'academic' intellectuals, they were actually enigmatic 'gurus.' Empedocles, like his master Pythagoras, was a charismatic miracle-worker. Socrates was an eccentric mystic prone to being suddenly overcome by states of rapture during which his friends would discover him staring off into space for hours. Heraclitus was asked by the citizens of Ephesus to become a lawmaker, but turned the offer down so that he could continue playing with the children in the temple. Anaxagoras shocked ordinary citizens by completely abandoning his farm to fully devote his life to "the higher philosophy." Diogenes owned nothing and lived in a jar at the entrance of a temple. The inspired playwright Euripides wrote his greatest tragedies during solitary retreats in an isolated cave. All of these idiosyncratic sages were steeped in the mysticism of the Mysteries, which they expressed in their philosophy. Olympiodorus, a follower of Plato, tells us that his master paraphrased the Mysteries everywhere. The works of Heraclitus were renowned even in ancient times for being obscure and impenetrable, yet Diogenes explains that they are crystal clear to an initiate of the Mysteries. Of studying Heraclitus he writes: "It is a hard road to follow, filled with darkness and gloom; but if an initiate leads you on the way, it becomes brighter than the radiance of the sun." At the heart of Pagan philosophy is an understanding that all things are One. The Mysteries aimed at awakening within the initiate a sublime experience of this Oneness. Sallustius declares: "Every initiation aims at uniting us with the World and with the Deity." Plotinus describes the initiate transcending his limited sense of himself as a separate ego and experiencing mystical union with God: "As if borne away, or possessed by a god, he attains to solitude in untroubled stillness, nowhere deflected in his being and unbusied with self, utterly at rest and become very rest. He does not converse with a statue or image but with Godhead itself. And this is no object of vision, but another mode of seeing, a detachment from self, a simplification and surrender of self, a yearning for contact, and a stillness and meditation directed towards transformation. Whoever sees himself in this way has attained likeness to God; let him abandon himself and find the end of his journeying ." No wonder the initiate Sopatros poertcally mused, "I came out of the Mystery Hall feeling like a stranger to myself." THE SACRED SPECTACLE AT ELEUSIS What were these ancient Mysteries that could inspire such reverent awe and heartfelt appreciation? The Mystery religion was practised for thousands of years, during which time it spread throughout the ancient worid, taking on many different forms. Some were frenzied and others meditative. Some involved bloody animal sacrifice, while others were presided over by strict vegetarians, At certain moments in history the Mysteries were openly practised by whole populations and were endorsed, or at least tolerated, by the state. At other times they were a small-scale and secretive affair, for fear of persecution by unsympathetic authorities. Central toall of these forms qf the Mysteries, however, was the myth of a dying and resurrecting godman. The Greek Mysteries celebrated at Eleusis in honour of the Great Mother goddess and the godman Dionysus were the most famous of all the Mystery cults. The sanctuary of Eleusis was finally destroyed by bands of fanatical Christian monks in 396 CE, but up until this tragic act of vandalism the Mysteries had been celebrated there for over 11 centuries. At the height of their popularity people were coming from all over the then known world to be initiated: men and women, rich and poor, slaves and emperors -- even a Brahmin priest from India. Each year some 30,000 Athenian citizens embarked on a 30-kilometre barefoot pilgrimage to the sacred site of Eleusis on the coast to celebrate the autumn Mysteries of Dionysus. For days they would have been preparing for this important religious event by fasting, offering sacrifices and undergoing ritual purification. As those about to be initiated danced along the 'Sacred Way' to Eleusis, accompanied by the frenzied beat of cymbals and tambourines, they were accosted by masked men who abused and insulted them, while others beat them with sticks. At the head of the procession was carried the statue of Dionysus himself, leading them ever onward. After ritual naked bathing in the sea and other purification ceremonies the crowd reached the great doors of the Telesterion, a huge purpose-built initiation hall. Only the chosen few who were already initiated or about to be initiated into the secret Mysteries could enter here. What awesome ceremony was held behind these closed doors that touched the great philosophers, artists, statesmen and scientists of the ancient world so deeply? All initiates were sworn to secrecy and held the Mysteries so sacred that they kept this oath. From large numbers of hints and clues, however, we know that they witnessed a sublime theatrical spectacle. They were awed by sounds and dazzled by lights. They were bathed in the blaze of a huge fire and trembled to the nerve-shattering reverberations of a mighty gong. The Hierophant, the high priest of the Mysteries, was quite literally a 'showman' who orchestrated a terrifyingly transformative dramatic reenactment of sacred myth. He himself was dressed as the central character - the godman Dionysus. A modern scholar writes: "A Mystery Religion was thus a divine drama which portrayed before the wondering eyes of the privileged observers the story of the struggles, sufferings, and victory of a patron deity, the travail of nature in which life ultimately triumphs over death, and joy is born of pain. The whole ritual of the Mysteries aimed especially at quickening the emotional life. No means of exciting the emotions was neglected in the passion-play, either by way of inducing careful predispositions or of supplying external stimulus. Tense mental anticipations heightened by a period of abstinence, hushed silences, imposing processions and elaborate pageantry, music loud and violent or soft and enthralling, delirious dances, the drinking of spirituous liquors, physical macerations, alternations of dense darkness and dazzling light, the sight of gorgeous ceremonial vestments, the handling of holy emblems, auto-suggestion and the promptings of the Hierophant -- these and many secrets of emotional exaltation were in vogue." This dramatization of the myth of Dionysus is the origin of tragedy and theatre. But the initiates were not a passive audience. They were participants who shared in the passion of the godman whose death and rebirth symbolically represented the death and spiritual rebirth of each one of them. As a modern authority explains: "Dionysus was the god of the most blessed ecstasy and the most enraptured love. But he was also the persecuted god, the suffering and dying god, and all whom he loved, all who attended him, had to share his tragic fate." By witnessing the awesome tragedy of Dionysus, the initiates at Eleusis shared in his suffering, death and resurrection, and so experienced a spiritual purification known as 'catharsis.' The Mysteries did not offer religious dogmas to simply be believed, but a myth to be entered into. Initiation was not about learning something, but about experiencing an altered state of awareness. Plutarch, a Pagan high priest, confesses that those who had been initiated could produce no proof of the beliefs that they acquired. Aristotle maintains, "It is not necessary for the initiated to learn anything, but to receive impressions and to be put in a certain frame of mind." The philosopher Produs talks of the Mysteries as evoking a "sympathy of the soul with the ritual in a way that is unintelligible to us and divine, so that some of the initiates axe stricken with panic, being filled with divine awe; others assimilate themselves to the holy symbols, leave their own identity, become at home with the gods, affd experience divine possession." Why did the myth enacted by the Mysteries have such a profound effect? ENCODED SECRET TEACHINGS In antiquity the word mythos did not mean something 'untrue't as it does ( for us today. Superficially a myth was an entertaining story, but to the initiated it was a sacred code that contained profound spiritual teachings. Plato comments, "It looks as if those also who established rites of initiation for us were no fools, but that there is a hidden meaning in their teachings." He explains that it is "those who have given their lives to true philosophy" who will grasp the "hidden meaning" encoded in the Mystery myths, and so become completely identified with the godman in an experience of mystical enlightenment. The ancient philosophers were not so foolish as to believe that the Mystery myths were literally true, but wise enough to recognize that they were an easy introduction to the profound mystical philosophy at the heart of the Mysteries. Sallustius writes: "To wish to teach all men the truth of the gods causes the foolish to despise, because they cannot learn, and the good to be slothful, whereas to conceal the truth by myths prevents the former from despising philosophy and compels the latter to study it." It was the role of the priests and philosophers of the Mysteries to decode the hidden depths of spiritual meaning contained within the Mystery myths. Heliodorus, a priest of the Mysteries, explains: "Philosophers and theologians do not disclose the meanings embedded in these stories to laymen but simply give them preliminary instruction in the form of a myth. But those who have reached the higher grades of the Mysteries they initiate into clear knowledge in the privacy of the holy shrine, in the light cast by the blazing torch of truth." The Mysteries were divided into various levels of initiation, which led an initiate step by step through ever deepening levels of understanding. The number of levels of initiation varied in different Mystery traditions, but essentially the initiate was led from the Outer Mysteries, in which the myths were understood superficially as religious stories, to the Inner Mysteries, in which the myths were revealed as spiritual allegories. First the initiate was ritually purified. Then they were taught the secret teachings on a one-to-one basis. The highest stage was when the initiate understood the true meaning of the teachings and finally experienced what Theon of Smyrna calls "friendship and interior communion with God." THE INTERNATIONAL MYSTERIES The Mysteries dominated the Pagan world. No other deity is represented on the monuments of ancient Greece and Italy as much as Dionysus, godman of the Eleusinian Mysteries. He is a deity with many names: Iacchos, Bassareus, Bromios, Euios, Sabazius, Zagreus, Yhyoneus, Lenaios, Eleuthereus, and so the list goes on. But these are just some of his Greek names! The godman is an omnipresent mythic figure throughout the ancient Mediterranean, known in different ways by many cultures. Five centuries before the birth of Christ, the Greek historian Herodotus, known as 'the father of history', discovered this when he travelled to Egypt. On the shores of a sacred lake in the Nile delta he witnessed an enormous festival, held every year, in which the Egyptians performed a dramatic spectacle before "tens of thousands of men and women," representing the death and resurrection of Osiris. Herodotus was an initiate into the Greek Mysteries and recognized that what he calls "the Passion of Osiris" was the very same drama that initiates saw enacted before them at Eleusis as the Passion of Dionysus. The Egyptian myth of Osiris is the primal myth of the Mystery godman and reaches back to prehistory. His story is so ancient that it can be found in pyramid texts written over 4,500 years ago! In travelling to Egypt Herodotus was following in the footsteps of another great Greek. Before 670 BCE Egypt had been a closed country, in the manner of Tibet, or Japan more recently, but in this year she opened her borders and one of the first Greeks who travelled there in search of ancient wisdom was Pythagoras. History remembers Pythagoras as the first 'scientist' of the Western world, but although it is true that he brought back many mathmatical theories to Greece from Egypt, to his contemporaries he would have seemed anything but 'scientific' in the modern sense. A wandering charismatic sage dressed in white robes and crowned with a gold coronet, Pythagoras was part scientist, part priest and part magician. He spent 22 years in the temples of Egypt, becoming an initiate of the ancient Egyptian Mysteries. On returning to Greece he began to preach the wisdom he had learned, performing miracles, raising the dead and giving oracles. Inspired by Pythagoras, his disciples created a Greek Mystery religion modelled on the Egyptian Mysteries. They took the indigenous wine god Dionysus, who was a minor deity all but ignored by Hesiod and Homer, and transformed him into a Greek version of the mighty Egyptian Osiris, godman of the Mysteries. This initiated a religious and cultural revolution that was to transform Athens into the centre of the civilized world. The followers of Pythagoras were models of virtue and learning, regarded as puritans by their neighbours. Strict vegetarians, they preached non-violence towards all living things and shunned the temple cults that practised the sacrifice of animals. This made it impossible for them to participate in the traditional Olympian religion of Athens. Forced to live on the fringes of acceptability, they often organized themselves into communities that shared all possessions in common, leaving them free to devote themselves to their mystical studies of mathematics, music, astronomy and philosophy. Nevertheless, the Mystery religion spread quickly amongst the ordinary people and within a few generations the Egyptian Mysteries of Osiris, now the Mysteries of Dionysus, inspired the glory of Classical Athens. In the same way that Osiris was synthesized by the Greeks with their indigenous god Dionysus to create the Greek Mysteries, other Mediterranean cultures which adopted the Mystery religion also transformed one of their indigenous deities into the dying and resurrecting Mystery godman. So, the deity who was known as Osiris in Egypt and became Dionysus in Greece was called Attis in Asia Minor, Adonis in Syria, Bacchus in Italy, Mithras in Persia, and so on. His forms were many, but essentially he was the same perennial figure, whose collective identity was referred to as Osiris-Dionysus. Because the ancients recognized that all the various Mystery godmen were essentially the same mythic being, elements from different myths and rites were continually combined and recombined to create new forms of the Mysteries. In Alexandria, for example, a charismatic sage called Timotheus consciously fused Osiris and Dionysus to produce a new deity for the city callled Serapis. He also gave an elaborate account of the myth of the Mystery godman Attis. Lucius Apuleius received his initiation into theMysteries from a high priest named after the Persian godman Mithras. Coins were minted with Dionysus represented on one side and Mithras on the other? One modern authority tells us that "possessed by the knowledge of his own secret rites," the initiate of the Mysteries "found no difficulty in conforming to any religion in vogue." Like the Christian religion which superseded it, the Mysteries reached across national boundaries, offering a spirituality which was relevant to all human beings, regardless of their racial origins or social status. Even as early as the fifth century CE philosophers such as Diogenes and Socrates called themselves "cosmopolitans' -- "citizens of the cosmos" -- rather than of any particular country or culture, which is testimony to the international nature of the Mysteries. One modern scholar, commenting on the merging and combining of different mystery traditions, writes: "This went a long way towards weaning the minds of men from the idea of separate gods from the different nations, and towards teaching them that all national and local deities were but different forms of one great Power. But for the rise of Christianity and other religions, there can be little doubt but that the whole of the Graeco-Roman deities would continually have merged into Dionysus." OSIRIS-DIONYSUS AND JESUS CHRIST Osiris-Dionysus had such universal appeal because he was seen as an 'Everyman' figure who symbolically represented each initiate. Through understanding the allegorical myth of the Mystery godman, initiates could become aware that, like Osiris-Dionysus, they were also 'God made flesh.' They too were immortal Spirit trapped within a physical body. Through sharing in the death of Osiris-Dionysus initiates symbolically 'died' to their lower earthly nature. Through sharing in his resurrection they were spiritually reborn and experienced their eternal and divine essence. This was the profound mystical teaching that the myth of Osiris-Dionysus encoded for those initiated into the Inner Mysteries, the truth of which initiates directly experienced for themselves. Writing of the Egyptian Mystery godman Osiris, Sir Wallis Budge, who was keeper of antiquities in the British Museum, explains: "The Egyptians of every period in which they are known to us believed that Osiris was of divine origin, that he suffered death and mutilation at the hands of the power of evil, that after great struggle with these powers he rose again, that he became henceforth the king of the underworld and judge of the dead, and that because he had conquered death the righteous might also conquer death. "He represented to men the idea of a man who was both God and man, and he typified to the Egyptians in all ages the being who by reason of his sufferings and death as a man could sympathise with them in their own sickness and death. The idea of his human personality also satisfied their cravings and yearnings for communion with a being who, though he was partly divine, yet had much in common with themselves. Originally they looked upon Osiris as a man who lived on the earth as they lived, who ate and drank, who suffered a cruel death, who by help of certain gods triumphed over death, and attained unto everlasting life. But what Osiris did they could also do." These are the key motifs that characterize the myths of all the Mystery godmen. What Budge writes of Osiris could equally be said of Dionysus, Attis, Adonis, Mithras and the rest. It also describes the Jewish dying and resurrecting godman Jesus Christ. Like Osiris-Dionysus, he is also God Incarnate and God of the Resurrection. He also promises his followers spiritual rebirth through sharing in his divine Passion. CONCLUSION The Mysteries were clearly an extremely powerful force in the ancient world. Let's review what we've discovered about them: - The Pagan Mysteries inspired the greatest minds of the ancient world. - They were practised in different forms by nearly every culture in the Mediterranean. - They comprised Outer Mysteries which were open to all and secret Inner Mysteries known only to those who had undergone a powerful process of mystical initiation. - At the heart of the Mysteries was the myth of a dying and resurrecting godman - Osiris-Dionysus. - The Inner Mysteries revealed the myths of Osiris-Dionysus to be spiritual allegories encoding spiritual teachings. The question which intrigued us was whether the Mysteries could have somehow influenced and shaped what we have inherited as the "biography" of Jesus? Unlike the various Pagan Mystery godmen, Jesus is traditionally viewed as an historical rather than a mythical figure, literally a man who was an incarnation of God, who suffered, died and resurrected to bring salvation to all humankind. But could these elements of the Jesus story actually be mythical stories inherited from the Pagan Mysteries? We began investigating the myths of Osiris-Dionysus more closely, searching for resemblances with the Jesus story. We were not prepared for the overwhelming number of similarities that we uncovered. Diabolical Mimicry "Having heard it proclaimed through the prophets that the Christ was to come and that the ungodly among men were to be punished by fire, the wicked spirits put forward many to be called Sons of God, under the impression that they would be able to produce in men the idea that the things that were said with regard to Christ were merely marvellous tales, like the things that were said by the poets." Justin Martyr Although the remarkable similarities between the myths of Osiris-Dionysus agd the supposed "biography" of Jesus Christ are generally unknown today, in the first few centuries CE they were obvious to Pagans and Christians alike. The Pagan philosopher and satirist Celsus criticized Christians for tryingto pass off the Jesus story as a new revelation when it was actually an inferior imitation of Pagan myths. He asks: "Are these distinctive happenings unique to the Christians -- and if so, how are they unique? Or are ours to be accounted myths and theirs believed? What reasons do the Christians give for the distinctiveness of their beliefs? In truth there is nothing at all unusual about what the Christians believe, except that they believe it to the exclusion of more comprehensive truths about God." The early Christians were painfully aware of such criticisms. How could Pagan myths which predated Christianity by hundreds of years have so much in common with the biography of the one and only saviour Jesus? Desperate to come up with an explanation, the Church fathers resorted to one of the most absurd theories ever advanced. From the time of Justin Martyr in the second century onwards, they declared that the Devil had plagiarized Christianity by anticipation in order to lead people astray? Knowing that the true Son of God was to literally come and walk the Earth, the Devil had copied the story of his life in advance of it happening and created the myths of Osiris-Dionysus. The Church father Tertullian writes of the Devil's "diabolical mimicry" in creating the Mysteries of Mithras: "The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstances of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins from the Sacred Fount, and thereby initiates them into the religion of Mithras. Thus he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copies certain things of those that be Divine." Studying the myths of the Mysteries it becomes obvious why these early Christians resorted to such a desperate explanation. Although no single Pagan myth completely parallels the story of Jesus, the mythic motifs which make up the story of the Jewish godman had already existed for centuries in the various stories told of Osiris-Dionysus and his greatest prophets. Let's make a journey through the 'biography' of Jesus and explore some of these extraordinary similarities. SON OF GOD Despite Christianity's claim that Jesus is the "only begotten Son of God." Osiris-Dionysus, in all his many forms, is also hailed as the Son of God. Jesus is the Son of God, yet equal with the Father. Dionysus is the "Son of Zeus, in his full nature God, most terrible, although most gentle to mankind." Jesus is "Very God of Very God." Dionysus is "Lord God of God born." Jesus is God in human form. St John writes of Jesus as "the Word made flesh." St. Paul explains that "God sent his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh? Dionysus was also known as Bacchus, hence the title of Euripides' play The Bacchae, in which Dionysus is the central character. In this play, Dionysus explains that he has veiled his "Godhead in a mortal shape" in order to make it "manifest to mortal men.. He tells his disciples, "That is why I have changed my immortal form and taken the likeness of man." Like Jesus, in many of his myths the Pagan godman is born of a mortal virgin mother. In Asia Minor, Attis' mother is the virgin Cybele. In Syria, Adonis' virgin mother is called Myrrh. In Alexandria, Aion is born of the virgin Kore. In Greece, Dionysus is born of a mortal virgin Semele who wishes to see Zeus in all his glory and is mysteriously impregnated by one of his bolts of lightning. It was a popular tradition, recorded in the most quoted non-canonical text of early Christianity, that Jesus spent only seven months in Mary's womb. The Pagan historian Diodorus relates that Dionysus' mother Semele likewise was said to have also had only a seven-month pregnancy. Justin Martyr acknowledges the similarities between Jesus' virgin birth and Pagan mythology, writing: "In saying that the Word was born for us without sexual union as Jesus Christ our teacher, we introduce nothing beyond what is said of those called the Sons of Zeus." Nowhere was the myth of the 'Son of God' more developed than in Egypt, the ancient home of the Mysteries. Even the Christian Lactantius acknowledged that the legendary Egyptian sage Hermes Trismegistus had "arrived in some way at the truth, for on God the Father he had said everything, and on the Son." In Egypt, the Pharaoh had for thousands of years been regarded as an embodiment of the godman Osiris and praised in hymns as the Son of God. As an eminent Egyptologist writes, "Every Pharaoh had to be the Son of God and a human mother in order that he should be the Incarnate God, the Giver of Fertility to his country and people." In many legends the great prophets of Osiris-Dionysus are also portrayed as saviours and sons of God. Pythagoras was said to be the son of Apollo and a mortal woman called Parthenis, whose name derives from the word parthenos, meaning "virgin." Plato was also posthumously believed to be the son of Apollo. Philostratus relates in his biography of Apollonius that the great Pagan sage was regarded as the "Son of Zeus." Empedocles was thought to be a godman and saviour who had come down to this world to help confused souls, becoming "like a madman, calling out to people at the top of his voice and urging them to reject this realm and what is in it and go back to their own original, sublime, and noble word." Mythic motifs from the Mysteries even became associated with Roman Emperors who, for political reasons, cultivated legends about their divine nature which would link them to Osiris-Dionysus. Julius Caesar, who did not himself even believe in personal immortality, was hailed as "God made manifest, the common saviour of human life." His successor, Augustus, was likewise the "saviour of the universal human race." and even the tyrannical Nero is addressed on an altar piece as "God the deliverer for ever." In 40 BCE, drawing on Mystery myths, the Roman poet and initiate Virgil wrote a mystical 'prophesy' that a virgin would give birth to a divine child. In the fourth century CE Literalist Christians would claim that it foretold the coming of ]esus, but at the time this myth was interpreted as referring to Augustus, said to be the "Son of Apollo," preordained to rule the Earth and bring peace and prosperity. In his biography of Augustus, Suetonius offers a cluster of 'signs' that indicated the Emperor's divine nature. One modern authority writes: &am

what do yall think of this? The Sexualization of Young Girls Media Influences Bratz Doll By Family Editorial Staff The report by the American Psychological Association: "Report of the Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls" focuses on the media culture and its impact on young American women over a long period of time. As a part of everyday life, for many the connection has not been made between the messages conveyed through media, and the self perception of a young person, in this case young girls. The report found:the APA Task Force on the of Girls Television * Youth-oriented programs are disproportionately male in focus * Have a tendency to objectify women. * Female characters are provocatively dressed and behaviors are coded with leering, ogling, staring, and catcalling at the bodies of female characters. * Of the 81 programs analyzed, 84% contained one of the following behaviors in order of the most to the least common: 1-Sexist comments (e.g., broad, bimbo, dumb ass chick, toots, fox, babe, blondie). 2-Verbal sexual objectification of women’s bodies. 3-Body language – involving sexual harassment i.e. jokes which characterized women as sexual objects. Music Videos * 44%–81% of music videos analyzed contain sexual imagery. * Women dress more provocatively than men * Are more likely to serve as decorative objects * Are least likely to play an instrument. * Women are displayed for sexual readiness. * Use sexual readiness to cross the threshold from teenager to adulthood, which conveys the message that sexual readiness is a sign of maturity Music Lyrics . * Researchers coded the content of 164 songs from 16 artists popular with teens. Overall, 15% of songs contained sexually degrading lyrics. Movies * "This gross under representation of women and girls in films with family-friendly content reflects a missed opportunity to present a broad spectrum of girls and women in roles that are non-sexualized". Cartoons and Animation * Are not free from the sexual objectification of young girls and women. * Female characters increasingly wear sexy costumes that don’t match the characters’, fewer clothes. Magazines * Girls and young women are repeatedly encouraged and given advices on how to look and dress for men, a phenomenon labeled “costuming for seduction." Sports Media * The 2008 Olympics provides a prime example of extensive coverage on sports women in minimal sportswear, which was not reflective of the female participants as a whole. Re Video/Computer Games * Games made for specialized systems and those made for personal computers contain highly sexualized content. Internet * "The wide popularity of sites like MySpace.com as well as blog centers has encouraged youth, including girls, to describe themselves on the Internet. Some girls have posed in provocative clothing and posted notices of their sexual availability". Report of the APA Task Force on the f Girls * A study found that 70% of teens 15–17 years of age had accidentally encountered pornography on the Internet, with 23% saying this happened somewhat or very often. Advertising * Women tend to be shown in a state of undress. * "When women are featured as “decorations” in ads (e.g., shown standing seductively next to a car to enhance the image of the car), their major purpose is to be looked at. They are treated as appendages to the product rather than as active consumers or users of the product". * Female models were placed in sexually exploitive positions "for others’ viewing pleasure". * Although advertisers are typically careful not to sexualize young girls directly, several advertising techniques do so indirectly: * "Some girl's/women's magazines includes sexual portrayals of adult women as young girls in advertising (schoolgirl clothing and licking lollipops or popsicles or wearing scaled-up versions of children’s clothing styles like baby doll dresses and tops, and knee socks, all marketed as adult women’s wear" Products Certain products can shape individual and societal expectations. * Dollsthat portray characters whose only interest are fashion, music, boys, and image. * Clothing– An increase in production of “sexy” clothing in child and teen sizes. * Cosmetics-The cosmetics industry targets younger and younger girls. "French perfumeries have introduced perfumes to the market specifically for little girls (e.g. “smellies”). Villeneuve and de Grandi", when perfumery for adults is marketed as a means for sexual attraction. So parents, when that T.V/video recorder/ lol whos asking u guys to read the whole thing..just read the first para at least.

does anyone want to read this ( i know its so wierd but maybe any yahooligans here wanted to see it ) caution! The Basics Where does fart gas come from? The gas in our intestines comes from several sources: air we swallow, gas seeping into our intestines from our blood, gas produced by chemical reactions in our guts, and gas produced by bacteria living in our guts. What is fart gas made of? The composition of fart gas is highly variable. Most of the air we swallow, especially the oxygen component, is absorbed by the body before the gas gets into the intestines. By the time the air reaches the large intestine, most of what is left is nitrogen. Chemical reactions between stomach acid and intestinal fluids may produce carbon dioxide, which is also a component of air and a product of bacterial action. Bacteria also produce hydrogen and methane. But the relative proportions of these gases that emerge from our anal opening depend on several factors: what we ate, how much air we swallowed, what kinds of bacteria we have in our intestines, and how long we hold in the fart. The longer a fart is held in, the larger the proportion of boring, inert nitrogen it contains, because the other gases tend to be absorbed into the bloodstream through the walls of the intestine. A nervous person who swallows a lot of air and who moves stuff through his digestive system rapidly may have a lot of oxygen in his farts, because his body didn't have time to absorb the oxygen. Encyclopaedia Britannica offers the intriguing statement that some people's farts contain no methane. The reason for this is apparently unknown. Some researchers suspect a genetic influence, whereas others think the anomaly is due to environmental factors. However, all methane in any farts comes from bacterial action and not from human cells. What makes farts stink? The odor of farts comes from small amounts of hydrogen sulfide gas and mercaptans in the mixture. These compounds contain sulfur. The more sulfur-rich your diet, the more sulfides and mercaptans will be produced by the bacteria in your guts, and the more your farts will stink. Foods such as cauliflower, eggs and meat are notorious for producing smelly farts, whereas beans produce large amounts of not particularly stinky farts. Why do farts make noise? The sounds are produced by vibrations of the anal opening. Sounds depend on the velocity of expulsion of the gas and the tightness of the sphincter muscles of the anus. How much gas does a normal person pass per day? On average, a person produces about half a liter of fart gas per day, distributed over an average of about fourteen daily farts. Whereas it may be difficult for you to determine your daily flatus volume, you can certainly keep track of your daily numerical fart count. You might try this as a science fair project: Keep a journal of everything you eat and a count of your farts. You might make a note of the potency of their odor as well. See if you can discover a relationship between what you eat, how much you fart, and how much they smell. How does a fart travel to the anus? One may wonder why fart gas travels downward toward the anus when gas has a lower density than liquids and solids, and should therefore travel upwards. The intestine squeezes its contents toward the anus in a series of contractions, a process called peristalsis. The process is stimulated by eating, which is why we often need to poop and fart right after a meal. Peristalsis creates a zone of high pressure, forcing all intestinal contents, gas included, to move towards a region of lower pressure, which is toward the anus. Gas is more mobile than other components, and small bubbles coalesce to from larger bubbles en route to the exit. When peristalsis is not active, gas bubbles may begin to percolate upwards again, but they won't get very far due to the complicated and convoluted shape of the intestine. Furthermore, the anus is neither up nor down when a person is lying down. How long does it take fart gas to travel to someone else's nose? Fart travel time depends on atmospheric conditions such as humidity, temperature and wind speed and direction, the molecular weight of the fart particles, and the distance between the fart transmitter and the fart receiver. Farts also disperse (spread out) as they leave the source, and their potency diminishes with dilution. Generally, if the fart is not detected within a few seconds, it will be too dilute for perception and will be lost into the atmosphere forever. Exceptional conditions exist when the fart is released into a small enclosed area such as an elevator, a small room, or a car. These conditions limit the amount of dilution possible, and the fart may remain in a smellable concentration for a long period of time, until it condenses on the walls. Why is there a 13 to 20 second delay between farting and the time it starts to smell? Actually, the fart stinks immediately upon emergence, but it takes several seconds for the odor to travel to the farter's nostrils. If farts could travel at the speed of sound, we would smell them almost instantly, at the same time we hear them. Is it true that some people never fart? No, not if they're alive. People even fart shortly after death. Do even movie stars fart? Yes, of course. So do grandmothers, priests, kings, presidents, opera singers, beauty queens, and nuns. Even Yoda farts. Do men fart more than women? No, women fart just as much as men. It's just that most men take more pride in it than most women. There is a large variation among individuals in the amount of fart gas produced per day, but the variation does not correlate with gender. I have read that men fart more often than women. If this is true, then women must be saving it up and expelling more gas per fart than men do. Do men's farts smell worse than women's farts? Based on what I have experienced of women's farts, all I can say is that I hope not. At what time of day is a gentleman most likely to fart? A gentleman is mostly likely to fart first thing in the morning, while in the bathroom. This is known as "morning thunder," and if the gentleman gets good resonance, it can be heard throughout the household. Why are beans so notorious for making people fart? Beans contain sugars that we humans cannot digest. When these sugars reach our intestines, the bacteria go wild, have a big feast, and make lots of gas! Other notorious fart-producing foods include corn, bell peppers, cabbage, milk, and raisins. A friend of mine had a dog who was exceptionally fond of apples and turnips. The dog would eat these things and then get prodigious gas. A dog's digestive system is not equipped to handle such vegetable matter, so the dog's bacteria worked overtime to produce remarkable flatulence. What things other than diet can make a person fart more than usual? People who swallow a lot of air fart more than people who don't. This can be cured somewhat by chewing with your mouth closed. Nervous people with fast moving bowels will fart more because less air is absorbed out of the intestines. Some disease conditions can cause excess flatulence. And going up in an airplane or other low-pressure environment can cause the gas inside you to expand and emerge as flatulence. Is a fart really just a burp that comes out the wrong end? No, a burp emerges from the stomach and has a different chemical composition from a fart. Farts have less atmospheric gas content and more bacterial gas content than burps. Is it harmful to hold in farts? There are differences in opinion on this one. Certainly, people have believed for centuries that retaining flatulence is bad for the health. Emperor Claudius even passed a law legalizing farting at banquets out of concern for people's health. There was a widespread belief that a person could be poisoned or catch a disease by retaining farts. Doctors I have spoken to recently have told me that there is no particular harm in holding in farts. Farts will not poison you; they are a natural component of your intestinal contents. The worst thing that can happen is that you may get a stomach ache from the gas pressure. But one doctor suggested that pathological distention of the bowel could result if a person holds in farts too much. How long would it be possible to not fart? As I understand it, a captive fart can escape as soon as the person relaxes. This means that a lot of people who assiduously refrain from farting during the day do so at great length as soon as they fall asleep. Having been on a great many overnight field trips, long bus trips, and trans-Pacific flights, I can personally vouch for the fact that lots of people do fart voluminously as they doze off. So the answer to the question would be, you can refrain from farting as long as you can stay awake! Do all people fart in their sleep? I have not made a scientific study of this, but I don't think all people fart in their sleep. I think mainly those who refuse to fart when they're awake do so when dozing off. For other people, toilet training takes such a strong hold that they let nothing pass their sphincters in sleep. For these people, the gas accumlates in the night and they vent it upon awakening. Where do farts go when you hold them in? How often have you held in a fart, intending to release it at the first appropriate opportunity, only to find that the fart has disappeared when you are ready for it? I asked several doctors where the fart goes. Does it leak out slowly without the person knowing it? Is it absorbed into the bloodstream? What happens to it? The doctors agree that the fart is neither released nor absorbed. It simply migrates back upward into the intestine and comes out later. It is reassuring to know that such farts aren't really lost, just delayed. How can one cover up a fart? There is a company called Fartypants that sells underwear designed to absorb the odor of farts. If you should be caught without your Fartypants, another ploy is to blame the dog or cat, if one should be present, or complain about how the wind must be blowing from the direction of the paper mill. As for the sound... if you are in a large group of people, act oblivious and innocent, or glance quickly at the person next to you, as if you think he/she did it. Other strategies include coughing or suddenly moving your chair so that people think that they misheard the fart. If you are with one other person, you can act as if nothing happened, and the other person may believe he was mistaken in thinking he heard a fart. CJT addresses the problem of farting loudly in a public restroom as follows: "My solution: use a handful of loose toilet paper, cover your butt hole and it will muffle the farting; my friends and I call it the 'Buff Muff'!" Depending upon the company, another strategy is not to cover it up, but to proudly proclaim the fart as your own grand accomplishment and to issue a challenge to the others to outdo that one if they think they can. Is it really possible to ignite farts? The answer to that is yes! However, you should be aware that people get injured igniting flatulence. Not only can the flame back up into your colon, but your clothing or other surroundings may catch on fire. A survey done by Fartcloud (the site, alas! is not more) indicates that about a quarter of the people who ignited their farts got burned doing it. Ignition of flatulence is a hazardous practice. However, if you want to try it, and you don't have a friend to light your fart for you, you might find it easier to accomplish the job using the Fartlighter. There have also been cases in which intestinal gases with a higher than normal oxygen content have exploded during surgery when electric cautery was used by the surgeon. Why is it possible to burn farts? Farts burn because they contain methane (usually) and hydrogen, both of which are flammable gases. (Hydrogen was the same gas that was used in the ill fated Hindenburg dirigible.) Farts tend to burn with a blue or yellow flame. Is it possible to light a match with a fart? No, even strike-anywhere matches have their limits, unless the fart has the consistency of sandpaper! Any fart that rough I would hesitate to call a fart. Also, farts have the same temperature as the body from which they emerge, and aren't hot enough to initiate combustion. Are there any books about farting? There are several! My favorite is the new book, Who Cut the Cheese: A Cultural History of the Fart by Jim Dawson. This book provides an entertaining and thought-provoking history of the fart in literature, language and society. It is very informative and very funny! Ben Franklin's classic Fart Proudly is still in print. There is a collection of suggestive photographs called Who Farted Now by St. Martin's Press. Most of the photos come from old movies and political shots. For children, we have the famous The Gas We Pass : The Story of Farts by Shinta Cho, and Amanda Mayer Stinchecum (Translator), and the Canadian picture book, Good Families Don't, by Alan Daniel and Robert N. Munsch, about a highly visible fart infesting a proper middle class family. Is it possible for a talented person to earn a living through flatulence? Few people earn their living directly via flatulence. But a friend of mine says that he saw a carnival act in which the performer whistled tunes with his farts, blew out candles on the opposite side of the stage, and sent flames all the way across the stage. A famous performer who earned his living this way was Le Petomane, who performed in France at the beginning of the 20th Century. However, my friend isn't old enough to have seen Le Petomane, so maybe he had a chance to see Mr. Methane. Mr. Methane lays claim to the distinction of being the world's only performing flatulist. His CD can be purchased at the FartMart. However, people may also earn a living through the prevention of flatulence (as do the manufacturers and sellers of Beano and other products), through the practice of medicine specializing in the treatment of flatulence and other gastrointestinal problems, by writing books about flatulence (see the question before this one), and through the production and sales of various fart gags such as whoopee cushions and farts in a can. Fartypants sells a fart filter and a number of other fart-related products. Ultratech Products, Inc., sells the Flatulence Filter, "an activated carbon air filter disguised as a seat cushion." (This link was discovered by Steve of Boulder, CO.) Maybe, if you're lucky, you'll be able to find a copy of Le Petomane's biography by searching at alibris.com. Last time I checked, they had two copies available! What other fart products are available? You can visit the FartMart to obtain an astounding number of wonderful fart products, including the famous Crepitation Contest CD, and several other recordings, Pull-My-Finger Fred (a doll that responds with farts and wisecracks), whoopie cushions and a variety of other fart-noise generating products (some of which are quite high tech), some products which produce a fart-like odor, prosthetic poop, fart sludge, and the famous Fart Machine. Why do dog and cat farts smell so bad? A carnivore's protein-rich diet produces relatively small amounts of intensely stinky gas because proteins contain lots of sulfur. A dog's or cat's farts are rarely audible, but the odor is overwhelming. I have asked biologists why dogs and cats generally fart silently, and their theories include: (1) the amount of gas produced is small, but potent, (2) the horizontal orientation of their gastrointestinal system puts less pressure on the anal opening, so the gas is expelled more slowly, (3) their anal sphincters don't close as tightly as humans' because it takes less force to hold in the contents of the colon -- again because of the horizontal orientation of the gastrointestinal system -- and a loose anus makes less sound, and, my favorite (4) dogs and cats don't feel embarrassed about farting, so their sphincters are more relaxed, leading to less noisy flatulence. Mike F. points out that many dog foods are soy-based, so on top of all the above factors, add beans and stand back! Large herbivorous animals such as cows, horses and elephants, on the other hand, produce vast quantities of relatively non-stinky fart gas. The farts of these animals are noisy and can go on for astoundingly long periods of time. Cows in particular are productive, in part because they swallow huge amounts of air. They need oxygen in their guts for the various protozoa employed there as digestive aids. Is it normal for dogs to like the smell of human farts? Yes, any odor that we find disgusting smells delicious to a dog. Dogs respond to the smell of farts, rotting fish, and carrion the same way we respond to the smell of bacon frying or cookies baking. A dog will often sniff the butt of the farter in order to inhale as much of the odor as possible. I have heard only one story about a dog being disconcerted by a fart. According to a friend, her brother once delivered a fart so evil that it made the dog sneeze, shake his head, and paw at his nose. That was either an unusual fart or an unusual dog. Do fish fart? According to our ichthyologist at the University of Guam, fish flatulence per se has not been studied, although people have investigated fish digestion. They find that although most fish have alkaline intestinal environments like our own, coral-eating fish have acidic intestinal contents. The acid serves to dissolve coral skeletal material. Coral has the same composition as Tums (calcium carbonate). One product of the reaction between acid and calcium carbonate is carbon dioxide gas. Therefore, it is logical to assume that coral-eating fish fart a lot. The other fish probably fart also, for the same reasons that we do. However, Mike Pulte, a great fish enthusiast, said that he has never seen a fish do it. I asked our ichthyologist if it were possible that fish gas would go into the swim bladder instead of out the anal opening. He said that modern fish have an air bladder that is independent of the gastrointestinal tract. The gas comes from enzymatic activity and not from the intestine. Older models of fish have their swim bladder connected to the gastrointestinal tract, but it is attached high up, closer to the mouth than to the other end, and these fish come to the surface and gulp air to fill the bladder. Therefore, we can assume that intestinal gas leaves the fish through the anal opening. We also pondered the possibility of fish making noise via flatulence, but apparently most fish noises are made through belching rather than farting. Lisa P., an aquarium enthusiast, reports that she has seen her fish fart: "I have four aquariums and many fish, and I have personally witnessed fish farting! My goldfish used to do it all the time! You'd see a little bubble come out of his anus and stay there, trapped in the mucus of a long string of poop. (Ugh!) And my opaline gourami does it too. Neither of these are coral-eating fish. I have only owned two coral-eating fish so far, but I have never seen either of them fart. It seems most likely to me that much of this gas comes from air swallowed during eating. Also, goldfish have a very simple digestive system and their food is absorbed inefficiently, so possibly the bacteria have more to feed on" Do turtles fart? Yes, turtles do fart, and their farts smell incredibly bad, as do the farts of snakes. In fact, it is my opinion, based on personal experience with reptiles and not on any formal research, that many reptiles use farts as a weapon. Reptile farts smell so bad that sometimes you can tell that one is nearby in the woods, even on a windy day, before you can see the animal. One day I was hiking through the woods in Arkansas with a friend and I told my friend, "I smell a snake fart." A second later, the snake crawled across the path. Astounding but true! In an article published in the December 2000 issue of Discover, "the world's leading expert on snake sounds," Bruce Young of LaFayette College in Easton, Pennsylvania, affirmed that snakes do fart. The sonoran coral snake and the western hook-nosed snake fart with an audible popping sound when disturbed. Why do horse farts smell worse than people's farts? I'm not sure that horse farts smell worse than our farts, but they do smell different. Horses have a different diet from us and different gut microbes, so their farts have a different composition. They also fart more voluminously than humans, and the volume of the gas can be overwhelming if one is unfortunate enough to be near a farting horse indoors. What kind of animal has the highest worldwide output of flatulence? Believe it or not, the animal that wins this honor is the humble termite. Because of their diet and digestive processes (with more than the usual microbial assistance), they produce as much methane as human industry. Termite farts are believed to be a major contributor towards global warming. Is it true that cow farts contribute to global warming? Recent research has shown that most methane produced by cows and sheep emerges from the mouth rather than the anus. So one could more accurately say that cow and sheep belches are contributing to global warming. New Zealand researchers are investigating methods of breeding methane-free sheep. Is there any kind of animal that doesn't fart? If we define a fart to be an anal escape of intestinal gas, then it follows that animals that lack intestines or an anus cannot fart. Most animals possess intestines and an anus, but there are some that don't. These include: Sponges: These organisms lack true tissues and organs. They have just a few types of cells organized into a bag with holes in it. Water flows into some holes and out other holes. Sponges are so different from other animals that some biologists think we shouldn't even call them animals. Cnidaria: This phylum includes the jellyfish, corals, sea anemones and hydra. Their tissues are organized into a bag with a mouth surrounded by stinging tentacles. Food enters the mouth and is digested inside the bag, after which the leftovers are expelled via the same opening. In effect, the same hole serves as both a mouth and an anus. Any gas expelled by a cnidarian would be more appropriately termed a belch rather than a fart, since the animal lacks intestines and separate anus. Pogonophoran worms: These remarkable animals, who dwell on the sea floor near active volcanic regions associated with mid-ocean ridges, possess no mouth, no stomach, no intestines, and no anus. Apparently they retain their svelte, worm-shaped figures by giving up on eating completely! They survive by means of a mutualistic relationship with chemosynthetic bacteria that live in their flesh. Anyway, these animals cannot possibly fart. A second category of animals that probably don't fart are animals that live very deep underwater. At high pressures, gas remains in solution rather than forming bubbles. So there is a good chance that all those clams, echinoderms, fish and other animals living near the seafloor don't fart because their farts stay in solution and never emerge as bubbles, even though the animals possess perfectly good intestines and anuses. Is it possible to leave a brown spot on your pants because of a fart, and if so, what causes it? Judging from what I see when I do the laundry, I'd say that the answer to the first question is definitely yes. As for the causes, we must remember that what we call "fart" and what we call "poop" are just end-members of a continuum. That is, we can have a pure fart, or a pure poop, or anything in-between, depending upon the admixture of the two. If a sample consists mostly of poop with only a small fart component, you get such things as jet-propelled bowel movements and spongy, floating fecal masses (you know, the ones that refuse to be flushed down the toilet -- they keep popping back up). If the sample consists mostly of fart with only a small poop component, you get what is known as "skid marks" or "fart art." These can also result from inadequate wiping, but the shape of the stain is different in the two cases. Inadequate wiping leads to elongate marks parallel to one's crack, usually with well-defined edges, whereas fart art is generally more circular and has an air-brushed look. Fart art is most likely to occur if (1) a person is suffering from diarrhea, (2) the person is trying too hard to fart, and (3) the person mistakenly perceives the pressure against his sphincter to be gas pressure rather than liquid pressure. Again, that last situation is most likely to occur if the person is afflicted with diarrhea. How can we tell when it's only gas needing to come out, rather than something more serious? Our ability to distinguish between the need to fart and the need to poop is something that we learn gradually in the process of toilet training and early childhood. With the tactile nerve endings in the rectal area, we can actually feel different sensations depending upon what is waiting by the exit. Of course, sometimes we are fooled, especially if the substance at hand is extremely fluid in nature, and that is when we have the unfortunate accident of venting a squirt of diarrhea rather than an innocent fart. What is the best position for farting? That depends on what you are trying to achieve. Years and years ago, I read a novel (can't remember which) that had a character in it who was plagued with intestinal gas pain. The character would coax farts out by getting down on all fours with her butt in the air, pressing her thighs against her belly. So perhaps this is the best position for farting if you are having difficulty getting them to come out. Back when I was in geology field camp, we would sit around the campfire in the evening and ignite our flatulence. It was a ritual. When a fart was ready to emerge, the farter would announce, "I have one." And everyone else would intone, "Assume the proper position." The farter would lie back on his or her shoulders with back propped up, head between the knees, and posterior in the air. The purpose was to give the person with the match easy access to the critical vent. Expert farters of my acquaintance often shift their weight onto one leg and lift the other slightly when farting. I assume that this position is adopted less to aid in the farting process than to signal that a fart is imminent. Why do chicks always deny farting? I suppose I should start by saying that only some chicks deny farting. The rest of us acknowledge our gaseous accomplishments with pride. However, a great many sisters do deny farting. The reason is that they have been misled into thinking that farts are not ladylike. It is a great mistake to say that farting is not ladylike. The reason is that all people fart, including ladies. Anything that ladies do is by definition ladylike, and that includes the emission of anal gases. Is it possible that, by inhaling other people's farts all day long, my own farts will smell more? No, inhaled farts would go into the lungs rather than into the digestive system, and would simply be exhaled again, although it might be possible that some of the fart components might be absorbed into the blood. If you wanted to benefit from other people's farts in the way you describe, you would have to swallow them somehow. Is it possible to get stoned after inhaling two or three farts in a row? I am not aware of any intoxicating agents in flatulence. However, most farts contain very little oxygen, and you may experience dizziness if you are inhaling overly concentrated fart essence, simply from lack of oxygen. On the other hand, if you are inhaling farts in the open air and are breathing rapidly in order to inhale as much fart as possible, you may be hyperventilating, which also induces dizziness. Then there is the intrinsic hilarity factor: farts are so funny in both sound and odor that you might feel high just from the basic entertainment value of farts. Is it possible for a fart to kill you? A great many of you have asked if farts can be fatal, or if you can die from smelling a particularly bad fart. My initial response to this question was "no," but I thought I'd better ask a doctor. So now it is official, the medical opinion I received is no, a fart can't kill you. However, if you really work hard at it, you can manage to kill yourself with just about anything. I recently read of a man who hooked up his nose to his anus with a system involving a gas mask, rubber tubing and a hollow wooden post. He died of suffocation. This story comes from the Darwin Awards, and I personally cannot attest to the overall veracity of their stories. The story of the bed-bound obese man who died from inhaling his own flatulence (and whose farts almost killed the paramedics) is an urban legend that has been in circulation for some time. But according to Buzzbomb43, whom I quote: "In World War Two, the Air Force estimates that around 1000 to 2000 airmen were killed because of flatulence. The reason is B-17 bombers were not pressurized, so when bomber crews operated around 20,000 feet, the gas would expand and rupture their intestines." Now, that is a nasty way to go! There are also, of course, (in)famous stories about excessive farters that bio-hazard small toilet rooms, and when they try to light a cigarette the flame ignites the gas-rich-environment causing an explosion. My personal view about such stories is one of doubt. When you smoke and you fart does it make it smell any worse? (Brittney) Only if you swallow the cigarettes after smoking Brittney. If you settle for traditional smoking (inhaling) - the smoke will travel to your respiratory system and not to your digestive system and hence will have little-to-no effect on the odour of your farts. Of course, a minute mass of smoked Nicotine can (and does) migrate from the respiratory system into blood vessels and downstream to the digestive system (Nicotine is actually a known laxative), but the proportions are too small to contribute dearly to the odours you contribute. However, if you do swallow your cigarettes after smoking - its a different ball game. Cigarettes are produced with measures of Ammonia which certainly intensify gaseous odours. My advise for you therefore is not to swallow. I am guessing the reason why certain people think cigarettes might intensify the bad smell of a fart has to do with the fact both farts and cigarettes produce bad odours. I don't think however that this is a case of competing bad odours that in blend will create a third - even worst odour. Last, while I do not advise you to ever quit farting - I do strongly advise to quit smoking. Can excessive farting cause impotence? That depends on the tolerance level of the person with whom one is trying to be potent! Fortunately for humans, farting doesn't cause tissue damage. Other animals aren't so lucky. Soldier termites can actually turn themselves into bombs by detonating themselves via the explosive release of gas and feces, a process called "autothysis." Is it possible to inhale (suck in air) via one's anal opening? Yes, but it's a rare talent. The great early 20th Century French flatulist, Le Petomane, was able to do this, and in fact was able to suck up an entire bowlful of water (just the water, not the bowl) into his colon and expel it again with considerable force. By sucking in large quantities of air, he was able to perform lengthy shows on stage, and could imitate musical instruments, farm animals, and bird songs, whistle melodies, and play the ocarina. His productions were said to be virtually odorless, which is to be expected from air obtained directly from the outside. Here is a message I received recently (November, 1999) regarding the skill of inhaling via the anus: "i would just like you to know that i am part of a trio, who can suck in air in our anal openings. we are somewhat air-bandits. we can let the longest farts you have ever heard. our record holder, chad, stands at 24 sec. the record for most farts in a row is derek, at 492. and i, robert, have earned such nicknames as: Mad Crapper, gurglemeister, and old wetful. We have followed Le Petomane example, and have mastered the art of farting." Jason W. says, "I am a 16 year old guy that is a part of a 3-man fart on command group. We get together every Saturday night andpractice our talent to songs with a good beat. We accomplish this by getting on our hands and knees, completely relaxing, and our butt hole just opens up and air just seeps into our colons. We then get into position and let them rip. We can so far play a song called "THE EYE OF THE TIGER" (Rocky 3 theme song). We came across another group of 4 guys that can do this during the winter of 2001. We started to get together with them more frequently, and now we have a full fledged band going all on farting...We are going to try to make a CD on some songs we know, but no one wants to let us...I personally have let a fart go for about 75 seconds. On average each Saturday night we let off about 1000 farts EACH! The only problem with flatulating when we want is that now 2 of us can't help but sucking in air through our anus when we sit down." Jason has also provided the following instructions for people who would like to acquire this skill: 1) Get a pillow and a soft surface. 2) Place your ear on the pillow with your head turned sideways. 3) Put your butt up in the air, bringing your knees as close up to your head as possible. This relaxes your anal opening. 4) Once you're relaxed enough, you should feel a strange sensation...this is air traveling into your colon. 5) Through practice you will be able to do this by just sitting down. Adam reports that a student at his high school, known as "The King" could fart "God Save the Queen" by alternately inhaling and exhaling through his anus. The students refered to the inhaling process as "input." Is it possible to swallow smoke and then fart it out your anus? No, smoke consists of solid particles suspended in air. When such a mixture enters the digestive system, the solids condense on the walls and other objects in the gut, or go into suspension in liquids in the system. However, for people capable of inhaling through the anus, it is possible to smoke a cigarette with the anal opening and then blow the smoke back out. What causes the burning sensation that sometimes accompanies a fart? This is generally caused by a recent meal of hot peppers or related spices. The oils associated with these foods remain intact and active all the way through one's gastrointestinal system. If you fart in the bathtub, is the water polluted and should you refill the tub? As long as what comes out is only fart and no poop, your bath water should not be significantly polluted. Most of the gas just bubbles up and contaminates the air rather than the water. Is it true that a woman can fart out of her, shall we say, frontal opening, and if so, where does the gas come from? Yes, it is true! The gas that emerges is simply trapped air, for there is no gas production in the genitalia of a woman. The air can enter because the system is open to the outside. This highly specialized kind of fart is sometimes called a queef. This occurs especially frequently during the sex act, when air in the genitalia gets compressed and is forced out at high pressure. Can a man fart out of his genital opening? I have asked various men this question and they all deny it emphatically. However, elrondh contributed the information that under certain rare and artificially-induced circumstances, a man might pass gas through his penis. In this case, the man's bladder had been inflated for a medical procedure, the air introduced via catheter inserted through the urethra. This gas escaped during later attempts to urinate, "accompanied by a brief but sharp burning sensation." Is it possible to capture a fart in a jar and save it for later use? It should be theoretically possible to do this, but there would be lots of logistical problems. I would suggest using a plastic bag instead of a jar. You might try the following as a science fair experiment: Fart into several plastic bags and seal them carefully. Then fill several other plastic bags with ordinary air. Wait 24 hours. Then get volunteers to smell the contents of the bags to see if they can correctly identify which ones contain the farts. This should tell you if it is possible to store a fart in any useful way. Malachi and Megaera have come up with a way to capture a fart in a jar. They say to do it in the bathtub while bathing. Fill the jar with bath water and then hold it with the open end downward. Lean back in the bathtub so that your fart bubbles will emerge in front of you rather than behind you where you can't see them. Catch the bubbles in the jar, and put the lid on the jar while it's still underwater. This way, you capture a fairly pure fart uncontaminated by atmospheric air. To enjoy your captured fart to the fullest extent, make sure that your jar does not already smell like whatever was it it before, like pickles or peanut butter. Meep wrote to say that her fiancé was an expert fart collector at the age of ten. He used Kodak film canisters, and kept them on a shelf in his room. Experiments on his mother proved the efficacy of his method. Is it weird to enjoy farting? It is not unusual to enjoy farting. I believe that enjoyment of farting is a healthy attitude, since everyone has to fart. If a person is farting to the extent that it creates problems and unhappiness, then a visit to a doctor is in order. Is it common for people to enjoy smelling their own farts? I believe that it is not only common, it is universal. A person farts and then thinks, at least subconsciously, "Wow, I made that!" Can farting be considered sexy? Everything imaginable, and many things not imaginable, can be considered sexy by humans. However, the female southern pine beetle exudes a pheromone called frontalin in her flatulence that not only serves to attract males but acts as a general gathering call to both males and females of her species. Her farts are an invitation to an orgy. Unfortunately for her, her frontalin-laden farts also attract predators. What color is a fart? Farts are, alas, colorless. All of the gases that make up farts have no inherent color. But just think of how interesting it would be if farts were bright orange like nitrogen dioxide gas! It would certainly take the mystery out of who farted. Never-the-less, a high-personality gas like fart gas suggests color to people. Some people envision farts as brown, others as green or yellow. I have always thought of farts as brown, presumably because poop is brown. When someone farts in our car, that person might say, "You better not breathe through your mouth for awhile, or your teeth will turn brown." I knew a toddler who used to draw pictures of farts as yellow rectangles full of holes, like a slice of Swiss cheese. She thought of farts as yellow, and said that she knew they were rectangular because she could feel the sharp corners scraping against her on the way out! Ernie C. suggests that if farts were visible, they would look like pork rinds. Helen says, "It always seemed to me like farts were lumps of coal, black in color and irregularly spherical in shape." Do other people smell a fart better than the farter? The fart should smell just as much for the person who created it as it does for other people. However, the farter is somewhat protected by having the fart propelled away from his body in a direction opposite to his nose. Farting upwind nullifies this advantage. Why is it that when you scratch your *** through two layers of clothing (your underwear and your jeans) your fingers still stink? As pointed out by Barb F., who contributed the term to the fart thesaurus, a fart can be regarded as "aerosolized poop," which means that microscopic fragments and droplets of poop are actually distributed throughout the gaseous matrix of the fart. When delivered from the anus with some force, the components of the fart can penetrate one's clothing and these tiny particles can be trapped in the fibers of the cloth. The particles are transferred to your fingers and then your nose when you scratch and sniff. Why is it sometimes possible to taste farts? The sense of taste detects substances that are either liquid or dissolved in liquid. You can taste a fart when the fart's constituent molecules go into solution in your saliva. Do fart particles disperse in the air and float around until they hit something and then stick to it? The ultimate fate of fart particles depends on the nature of the particles. Gas molecules mostly mix into the atmosphere, although some may react chemically to form new substances. Aerosolized particles of liquid and solid poop probably do condense on surfaces. Most of these particles are polar (with a positively charged end and a negatively charged end) and are attracted to other polar substances or charged surfaces like a monitor screen. Other fart particles condense on microscopic water droplets in the air if the humidity is very high (as in a bathroom), and some particles go into solution in water. Is it possible to have bloody farts? Yes, this can happen if you are suffering from an anal fissure, a split in the wall of the colon. It can also happen to a woman who experiences a queef during her period. Why do farts seem to follow the farter? I'm sure that everyone has experienced this phenomenon, in which one delivers oneself forth of a silent but potent gaseous emission and then steps rapidly away, only to have the fart cling to one's person. Part of the reason for this annoying characteristic of farts is the turbulence that follows in the wake of a moving person. The fart "slip streams" or is actually pulled along in the farter's direction by the air currents behind the person. Another factor is that part of the fart is caught in the farter's clothing, and diffuses out slowly after the main part of the emission has dispersed. Why do farts smell so much worse in a shower than anywhere else? There are several factors. First of all, a shower is a small, enclosed space, so the fart gas is more concentrated, and the high turbidity of the air in the shower circulates the gas through the space effectively. Secondly, the high humidity and high temperature conditions in the shower enhance a person's sense of smell and taste. The farts don't actually smell worse, it's just that we can smell them better than usual. Similar conditions prevail in the bathtub. What would happen if someone farted on Venus? If Venus's surface temperature were a mere 200 to 300 degrees Fahrenheit, liquid water could exist there because of Venus's extremely high atmospheric pressure. But the temperature on Venus is almost 900 degrees Fahrenheit. Because humans are mostly water, a person would not simply emit gas on Venus, but would become gas, a whole-body fart. Venus already has a lot of sulfur compounds in its atmosphere, so a fart on Venus probably wouldn't even produce much of a smell. If you were in space without a suit, would a fart have the energy to propel you forward? Yes, a fart should propel you forward, since there is virtually no opposing force in the form of friction or gravity to counteract the force of the fart. Is it possible to freeze farts, and would they still be smelly after they are defrosted? The water vapor component of farts would freeze quite readily, but to freeze the entire fart would require high pressure and low temperature conditions such as that used to produce dry ice. The fart's composition would be unchanged by the process, and hence would still be smelly upon reversion to the gaseous state. Is it possible for a fart to rip your underwear? This is unlikely, because most underwear is made of material with a fairly high tensile strength, meaning that it can endure a certain level of extensional stress without brittle failure. Furthermore, the porous nature of underwear fabrics allows much of the fart's force to pass through the spaces rather than to stress the fabric. Where does the word "fart" come from? According to Eric Partridge in his excellent book of word origins (Origins: A Short Etymological Dictionary of Modern English), our word fart comes from the Old English word feortan, presumably of echoic origin, meaning that the word was chosen to sound like the object named. When it is cold outside and you fart, can you see it like you can see your breath? Now, that's an interesting idea! My guess would be yes, since farts are nice and moist like our breath, but this is one question that I'm not in a position to answer. I live in the tropics, and it never gets cold here. Several people have tried the experiment and have written to tell me the results. Most people said that they could indeed see their farts, but one person said that he couldn't see it even with his pants off. Here is what anywhere32 reported: "In the boys' locker room after morning water polo practice it was cold out and one of the players only had on his speedo and let out a fart. About four of us saw it and couldn't contain our laughter for the rest of the day." John of the UK said, "Farts expelled in cold air leave what can only be described as a long bushy tail. This is quite funny waiting on a train station platform on a cold dark frosty morning. A person will move away from everyone to a safe distance, and then release a long quiet fart, only to have a sudden and dramatic long bushy white tail coming from their anus; it goes down a little way and slowly curves up ending in a point, just like a dogs tail!" What are some other words for fart? The word "fart" is both a noun (referring to the substance and the sound), and a verb (referring to the act of farting). i seriously have no idea how this was posted as r & s!!!! but i hope u enjoy it as wierd as it is! i just copied and pasted it!! i thought it was funny

How many receipt-less voting machines are used nation-wide? Search:GEMS Diebold optical scan machines are being rigged for Bush Skull & Bones connection of Bush & Kerry: "Our Side (Race) won" Fraternity News (www.wikipedia.com_skull_and_bones) Poll Tapes thrown away - Against Federal Law (must be kept for 22 mos. by law) Hacking Democracy: Diebold (Voting Machine Software) Chairman 'promises' Vote for Ohio to G.W. Bush http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/114.html "Why weren't voting systems being tested for Security?" - I.T.A. Independent auditors of election software. Democracy: Can we trust systems that have no accountability? * With electronic voting machines tabulating more than 80 percent of the ballots cast in America, * Seattle grandmother Bev Harris set out to determine the obvious: Do they work? * Based on the evidence presented here, the answer is "not really" * The picture that emerges as Harris unearths a treasure trove of info about mishandled votes and the inner workings of the machines is that they're not only fallible but also highly vulnerable to hacking. http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/114.html * This wonderful documentary proves my point that we have the best democracy that money can buy * along with our judicial system. * This film is more frightening than any horror film I've seen, because THIS IS REAL! * And this is movie biased? * Not at all. * It's an absolute eye opener that shows that your vote really doesn't count; and make sure you watch the deleted scenes(another 33 minutes of fantastic footage). 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Senate Elections Committee grills two ...Catherine Ansbro28 1 4-12-06 1:59 pm 3-29-06: FL Attorney General Hits Voting Machine Vendors With Inves...Bev Harris4 1 3-30-06 10:39 am 3-28-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold attempts to explain TSx memory def...Bev Harris34 1 4-3-06 9:17 am 03-18-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold TSx touch-screen study (Part I)...Joseph Hall50 1 4-7-06 10:29 am 3-17-2006: New Black Box Voting report to be issued on Diebold TSx ...Jody Holder11 1 3-19-06 11:34 pm 3-11-06: The Stephen Heller Legal Defense FundJohn Washburn6 1 3-12-06 8:23 pm 3-8-06: Ion Sancho pits his lawyers against DieboldPat Vesely10 1 3-14-06 2:02 pm 3-3-06: While Florida vindicates Ion Sancho, Jeb Bush threatens Sa...Daniel R Spak29 1 3-19-06 5:45 pm 2-28-06: Take action NOW: Bullies pounding on whistleblowerRobert Sawdey11 1 3-9-06 5:47 pm 2-23-06: Someone accessed 40 Palm Beach County voting machines Nov ...Bev Harris110 1 3-9-06 7:30 am 2-21-06: An open letter to Bruce McPherson and the citizens of the ...Joycelynn Straight22 1 2-27-06 9:01 pm 2-17-06: BREAKING: Calif. Sec. State certifies entire Diebold produ...Bev Harris52 1 4-3-06 10:20 am 2-17-06: Election family tree: Who got us into this and how did the...Catherine Ansbro4 1 3-30-06 10:40 am 2-11-06: Voting machine examiners chickening out on Senate investig...Ron Crane24 1 2-18-06 1:27 pm 2-6-06: Landes takes e-voting to Supreme CourtV. Kurt Bellman24 1 4-19-06 10:33 am 2-6-06: Diebold agrees to waive proprietary claims to GEMS database...Marian Beddill12 1 2-11-06 1:38 pm 2-5-06: What protects your personal information once it enters e-el...Paul Lehto70 1 7-21-06 1:17 pm 2-2-06: Embezzler Jeff Dean remote accessed Calif. counties for 200...Kathleen Wynne4 1 2-2-06 8:38 am 2-1-06: Voting system examiners blocked from telling what they know?Byron Hale21 1 2-6-06 3:16 am 1-31-06: Diebold anticipates $100 to $125 million in 2006 voting sy...Bev Harris1 1 1-31-06 8:56 am 1-26-06: Elections Programmer Jeff Dean worked for same firm as for...Bev Harris25 1 1-27-06 12:45 pm 1-24-06: Public Records Get The Big Chill: Alaska's Voters vs Diebo...Jim March5 1 1-31-06 2:29 pm 1-13-06: ES&S reneges on Leon County deal 2 days before HAVA deadl...Catherine Ansbro33 1 1-17-06 1:20 am 1-9-2006: DuPage County Elections paid $30,000 to Republican politi...Bev Harris12 1 2-3-06 8:20 am 1-5-06: Wisconsin moves toward public source, then guts itJohn Washburn10 1 1-5-06 4:21 pm 1-3-2006: Hold on to your lugnuts, ES&S and Sequoia may risk Hurst...Brant Lamb33 1 1-25-06 4:56 am 12-30-05: Roll up your sleeves, we ain't done yet!BBV Admin1 1 12-30-05 4:26 pm 12-28-2005: Pennsylvania declines some Diebold but reveals an odd biasArnold Peckerman24 1 12-31-05 2:17 pm 12-23-05: ES&S under fire in CaliforniaEdward Robles5 1 12-26-05 5:36 am 12-20-05: California 'Hack' test stalled as Diebold certification d...Brant Lamb116 1 1-25-06 1:27 pm 12-13-05: Devastating hack proven - Leon County dumps DieboldSamuel Scharff97 1 5-29-06 9:25 pm 12-9-05: Diebold hack test -- Sec. State / Black Box lawyer square offJim March6 1 12-12-05 3:01 pm 12-7-05: Diebold stockholder suit - here's some ammoJim March7 1 12-8-05 9:37 am 12-4-05: 'Leave it up to us, we know best' say officialsBBV Admin27 2 12-15-05 4:17 am 11-30-05: Nope, the hack test won't be todayCatherine Ansbro25 1 1-3-06 12:51 am 11-28-05: Latest on California hack situationBruce Sims45 1 11-30-05 4:40 pm 11-24-05: Turkey Day leftovers: No thanks for stuffing elections wi...Edward Robles2 1 11-27-05 7:55 am 11-23-05: Flag on the play - Calif. Sec. State official calls foul ...Catherine Ansbro17 1 11-29-05 10:18 am 11-22-05: California invites Black Box Voting to hack Diebold votin...John Washburn31 1 12-9-05 8:23 am 11-22-2005: Updates on felons - Jeffrey Dean and John ElderBBV Admin7 1 11-22-05 9:37 am 11-21-05: Diebold violates court orderBBV Admin10 1 11-28-05 8:27 am 11-18-05: Fasten your seatbelts - It's time to bring this thing in ...Edward Robles7 1 11-27-05 9:12 am 11-15-05: FEC Investigating rapper P. Diddy (but not Blackwell or M...Edward Robles5 1 11-27-05 9:16 am 11-13-05: Detroit, Michigan elections are now a significant concernBBV Admin11 1 11-23-05 5:16 am 11-9-05: Los Angeles County has the dog & pony show downEdward Robles2 1 11-27-05 9:33 am 11-8-05: Share your observations on voting today hereKathleen Wynne10 1 11-10-05 9:15 am 11-6-05: Two state elections heads resign in FloridaBBV Admin6 1 11-6-05 5:11 am 11-4-05: Mail-in votes at higher risk with Diebold systemsBBV Admin1 1 11-4-05 8:00 am 11-3-05: The first public examination under the 15004 lawJohn Washburn5 1 11-6-05 6:41 am 10-28-05: Blackwell Blunders on Voting Machine ExaminationJohn Washburn14 1 10-31-05 11:23 am 10-26-05: The 'Perimeter Defense' - Follies and FailuresBBV Admin7 1 10-31-05 3:57 pm 10-21-05: GAO & NIST - Voting machine security finally goes mainstr...From the Mailbag10 1 10-29-05 11:39 am 10-9-05: VotoScope audit tool will catch Hart Intercivic bugBev Harris22 1 10-12-05 1:06 pm 10-8-05: Investors considering Diebold class action suitBev Harris1 1 10-8-05 3:08 pm 10-5-05: Diebold Lies Move Up the LadderBev Harris5 1 10-8-05 3:21 pm 9-19-2005: Carter-Baker Panel Report: Proposed Reforms Miss the BoatBrad Friedman52 1 10-3-05 12:02 pm 9-10-2005: Here's your chance to 'Look inside the Black Box':...alex baxter21 1 11-1-05 4:23 am 9-7-2005: Digital Image ballot scanners -- good or bad?Brant Lamb19 1 10-5-05 4:41 am 8-25-2005: Voting Rights Act expiration 2007Admin3 1 8-25-05 9:56 am 8-15-05: Election Reform -- Impending ShuffleCatherine_a107 1 8-25-05 1:51 pm 8-13-2005: If this doesn't get your blood boiling...Ubetchaiam9 1 8-15-05 11:24 am 8-10-2005: Mississippi Paper Trail ImminentCatherine Ansbro18 1 12-14-05 2:47 am 8-9-2005: Exactly what we don't want: Our election on Diebold's ser...John Howard13 1 10-5-05 8:20 pm 8-8-2005: Arcata, (CA) seeks to wrest election control from corpora...jimmarch6 1 8-12-05 12:33 am 8-5-05: 'Think Outside the Black Box' - ONLINE THINK TANK Admin5 1 8-17-05 7:46 am 8-3-05: San Diego backs down on charges against BBV director Jim MarchUbetchaiam32 1 8-22-05 12:01 pm 7-29-2005: Mississippi, listen up: California just rejected the TSxadmin17 1 8-13-05 8:15 pm 7-28-05: In his own words: Jim March on taking back his civil rightsmymarkx11 1 7-29-05 11:46 am 7-26-2005: BBV Board Member Arrested in San Diego for Viewing Vote-...cleanbean63 1 7-29-05 4:17 pm 7-25-2005: Wondering about mail-in voting? Diebold's new VoteRemote...Catherine Ansbro28 1 3-30-06 12:43 pm 7-21-2005: ES&S, Diebold lobbyists had ties to bribery investigatio...mary_ann9 1 7-31-05 12:00 am 7-20-2005: Internal documents reveal more Diebold ethics problemsadmin4 1 7-20-05 7:24 am 7-18-2005: Are The Lights Going Out In Georgia?admin5 1 7-22-05 3:14 pm 7-17-2005: Gallina (Diebold) reportedly paid Blackwell, GOP cronies...admin1 1 7-17-05 12:07 pm 7-11-2005: Case Against Diebold and Florida Division of Electionskathleen_wynne3 1 7-13-05 9:32 am 7-4-2005: The Black Box ReportJohn Dean36 1 5-8-06 6:05 pm 7-3-2005: Diebold accounting mistake -- SEC stuff may be a biggieadmin11 1 7-4-05 10:58 pm 7-1-2005: July 4 Security Alert for Diebold Optical Scanscatherine_a17 1 7-5-05 1:29 am 6-24-2005: Black Box Voting Litigation Fund LaunchedBev Harris2 1 2-3-06 8:22 am 6-17-05: Report on Calif. meeting -- Decertify Diebold?ubetchaiam11 1 7-21-05 2:37 pm 6-8-2005: Palm Beach County fails auditlinda_franz7 1 6-15-05 8:29 am 5-27-05: Optical scan system hacked (3 ways) - BBV ExclusiveBrant Lamb73 1 8-9-06 11:06 am 5-9-05: Consumer Report Series -- Following the Money Trail – Part Iadmin1 1 5-9-05 3:18 pm 5-6-04: $45m (Diebold?) contract flying under radar in Cook County ...admin2 1 5-6-05 2:53 pm 5-11-05: CANCELLED - Call to action May 19, Sacramentoadmin1 1 5-6-05 11:05 am 5-04-05 – Easier Hacking Access Sneaks in w. ADA Compliance Measuresadmin1 1 5-4-05 9:25 pm 4-24-05: LA's InkaVote system tied to Malaysian gambling outfitadmin1 1 4-24-05 12:43 pm 4-20-2005: Paper trail advocates - The devil in the detailsadmin1 1 4-20-05 11:54 am 4-18-2005: Diebold Lobbyist Documents Reveal Problemsadmin1 1 4-18-05 9:54 am 3-8-2005: Hack of Real-Life Voting System Demonstratedadmin1 1 3-9-05 12:51 pm 2-22-2005: Activating the Eagles -- Events this weekend in Californiaadmin1 1 2-22-05 5:08 pm 2-21-2005: Snohomish County (WA) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 4:51 pm 2-21-2005: Orange County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:57 pm 2-21-2005: Broward County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:14 pm 2-21-2005: Palm Beach County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 11:04 am 2-21-2005: Volusia County (FL) Updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 7:02 am 2-1-2005: Black Box Voting donates $2000 to Ohio lawyersadmin1 1 2-1-05 2:51 pm 1-28-05: Eagles rolling up sleeves in Ohio, Florida, Californiaadmin1 1 1-28-05 6:30 am 1-20-05: BULLETIN: California Panel OKs Voter Privacy Removaladmin1 1 1-20-05 6:05 pm 1-18-05: Consumer Protection lawsuit activated against Dieboldadmin1 1 1-19-05 4:43 am 1-17-05: Black Box Voting Document Archiveadmin1 1 1-17-05 1:42 pm 1-10-05: Exposing the Crypto Solutionadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:20 am 1-6-05: Constitutional Equal Protection Amendment for Voters?admin1 1 1-11-05 6:15 am 1-5-05: Election Misconduct as a Public Records Crisisadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:10 am 1-5-05: Update from Washington D.C.admin1 1 1-11-05 6:01 am 12-30-2004: Volunteer Actions -- Activating the Eaglesadmin1 1 1-11-05 5:50 am 12-29-04: Update on 'Help America Audit'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:44 am 12-28-04: Update for donors, and a look to 2005admin1 1 1-11-05 5:35 am 11-18-2004: Volunteer actions -- How to 'Be the Media'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:56 am Start New Thread Mainstream News Reports Black Box Voting » Latest News » Mainstream News Reports « Previous Next » Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post Dean Logan Says Unaffiliated WriteIns will be Checkedchristine c reid14 1 2-15-08 10:34 am New York Times re Holt BillV. Kurt Bellman26 1 2-8-08 1:57 pm AP Incorrectly calls Missouri for ClintonBill Bowen1 1 2-7-08 8:04 am San Fran CA-KSFO-AM reports Repub registration problemsNancy Tobi9 1 2-7-08 5:49 am Massachusetts results via your friends at LHSMike LaBonte10 1 2-7-08 5:24 am NJ Voting delay included Gov. CorzineMichael W Mather2 1 2-6-08 1:17 pm (CA) 2/08 - Voting machine probs delay Sacramento countPerry Duke9 1 2-5-08 6:34 pm (FL) 1/08 - More Florida voting machine problemsHal Guentert8 1 2-2-08 7:19 pm (FL) 1/08 - Final Florida results inkaren reineke11 1 2-1-08 4:25 pm (CO) 1/15 Democrats Ask Coffman to ResignFran Fleming1 1 2-1-08 9:41 am (FL) 1/08 - Problems already with voting machinesBev Harris 1 1 1-29-08 10:08 am (CO) Paper ballots win over RitterCatherine Ansbro3 1 1-29-08 2:16 am (MI) 12/07 - Proposition for new way to do primaries NEWS: Reform pres. candidate selection processCatherine Ansbro11 1 1-29-08 2:14 am Americans Abroad Can Now Vote Onlinesam lark7 1 1-26-08 3:49 pm (SC) 1/19/08 - Problems at polling locationsts taylor4 1 1-24-08 9:16 pm Feedback appreciated as this unfolds...Bruce Sims2 1 1-24-08 1:52 pm (Ohio) ACLU files suit to block paper ballots New paper ballots ca...Roger Wood20 2 1-20-08 9:43 pm REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER: Election Fraud RoundtableV. Kurt Bellman10 1 1-18-08 7:05 am (CO) Legislators lose their confidence in CoffmanCatherine Ansbro13 1 1-17-08 4:01 pm Olbermann Report !! On Voting Sue West6 1 1-17-08 3:53 pm GOP Figure Contracted to Deliver E-Voting Machines in MarylandAlex Laflamme1 1 1-17-08 9:43 am (NH) Experts skeptical of N.H. ballot-count conspiracy theoryBill Bowen60 1 1-16-08 10:37 pm Making votes countFran Fleming2 1 1-16-08 12:00 pm Ron Paul says in regard to New Hampshire voteDavid Evans1 1 1-13-08 8:32 am Diebold Changing its Buisness name Catherine Ansbro2 1 1-12-08 5:20 am (NH) 1/08 - Man plans recount of Republican vote in N.H. primary...Russell Novkov7 1 1-11-08 11:03 pm (TX) 10/07 - Another corrupt official, election tampering Refugio County - "Trust Me" failureCatherine Ansbro4 1 1-11-08 6:47 pm (FL) 9/07 - Volusia County again -- lots of defective memory cards... Volusia County - Voting system: Incident reportsWilliam Reese2 1 1-8-08 9:19 pm (FL) 10/07 - New machines, still not enough safeguards State of Florida - Voting systems: Transition to optical scan, issuesDon Powers2 1 1-8-08 12:00 am PC Magazine Article 09/12/07Don Powers2 1 1-7-08 10:45 pm (US) Can You Count On These Machines?Bev Harris 21 1 1-7-08 6:18 pm (US) Problems At Poll Permeate U.S. Political ProcessV. Kurt Bellman76 1 1-5-08 4:57 pm Legal Voters Thrown Off RollsV. Kurt Bellman7 1 1-3-08 11:15 am CNN: On the eve of Iowa caucus, some states give e-voting an 'F'...Russell Novkov2 1 1-2-08 3:42 pm (TX) 11/07 - Wharton County GOP will use paper ballots in primary... NEWS: Follow up on vote-flipping incidentLore2 1 1-1-08 3:35 pm (KY) 10/7 - Candidate for elections chief pleads guilty to forgery... Boone County - "Trust Me" FailureKathleen Wynne49 1 12-26-07 2:49 pm (US) 12/07 - FEC doors shut, 'No one left to answer phones'...Alan Brau4 1 12-25-07 8:29 pm (CO) 12/07 - Boulder: Stray marks caused decertificationBev Harris 1 1 12-23-07 9:49 pm (CO) 12/07 - Mesa: Commission defiant on vote machines NEWS: Resisting Colorado decertificationFran Fleming5 1 12-22-07 1:34 pm (AK) 12/07 - Impossible to tell whether 2004 count correct NEWS - Follow up on AZ Dem Party litigationBev Harris 1 1 12-21-07 7:05 am (CO) 12/07 - Denver: Voting gear out for count NEWS: Colo. decertification of Sequoia Julio Edwards1 1 12-18-07 6:41 am (US) 12/07 - Congressional watch tool for citizens PRESS RELEASE: New Freedom of Information toolBev Harris 1 1 12-11-07 7:20 am (PA) 11/07 - Philadelphia: Voter Fraud Allegations Again NEWS: Absentee ballot fraud allegationsV. Kurt Bellman21 1 12-7-07 2:02 pm (NJ) 12/07 - 'We are Neanderthals' - paper trail delayed again... NEWS: New Jersey paper trail statusBobby Arnold2 1 12-6-07 3:20 am (OH) 11/07 - Franklin County: Former elections official charged... NEWS: Election official corruptionBev Harris 2 1 12-2-07 7:50 am (OH) 11/07 - Township results flipped because of error (Lawrence Co... Lawrence County: Voting systems - Incident ReportBev Harris 4 1 11-23-07 2:00 pm (CT) 11/07 - Diebold/Premier machine miscount changes winner Greenwich: Voting systems - Incident reportsCatherine Ansbro4 1 11-23-07 1:47 pm (MS) 11/07 - New election ordered for Louise Linzy race Tunica County: Election incidentsBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 9:05 pm (NH) 11/07 - It's official: Jan. 8 primary date State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 8:28 pm (CA) 11/07 - Sec. State Bowen sues ES&S for $15 million State of California: Voting systems, ES&SBev Harris 3 1 11-21-07 9:09 pm (MI) 11/07 - It's back on: Mich. primary will proceed... State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of InformationBev Harris 1 1 11-21-07 10:38 am (MI) 11/07 - Michigan primary may not happen State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of Information Bev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:22 pm (NH) 11/07 - Pres primary date STILL not certain State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:06 pm (OH) 11/07 - Provisionals may alter outcome Clermont County: Provisional ballotsBev Harris 1 1 11-19-07 5:54 pm (TX) 11/07 - Alteration of live election data in Harris County... Harris County: Voting systems, "Trust Me"Russell Novkov12 1 11-15-07 9:18 pm (US) 11/07 - Sequoia voting systems under new ownership US - VendorsBev Harris 1 1 11-9-07 6:39 am (OH) 11/07 - Polls open later in ES&S location Putnam County - Voting Machines: Incident ReportsPatricia Berg1 1 11-7-07 4:34 am (FL) 10/07 - Appeals court rules The People "moot" Sarasota County - LitigationBev Harris 1 1 11-2-07 8:02 am (CT) 10/07 - Candidate's company will transport voting machines... New Britain - Chain of CustodyBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 11:22 am (IN) 10/07 - Polling locations reduced to four "vote centers"... Tippecanoe County - Access to PollsBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 8:12 am (FL) 10/07 - Wrong Ballots Sent To Miami Absentee Voters Miami-Dade County - Absentee / Mail-in Incident ReportBrant Lamb13 1 10-22-07 11:34 am (PA) 10/07 - County replacing WinVote Lackawanna County - Voting systems: Procurement Alan Brau43 1 10-18-07 7:56 pm (US) 9/07 - E-vote industry massaging itself in the media Voting systems: Security / Chain of CustodyBev Harris 52 1 10-14-07 11:07 am (OH) 10/07 - A funeral for a presidential election State of Ohio - Compliance, enforcement issuesAlan Brau3 1 10-11-07 4:32 pm (FL) 10/07 - Peculiar excuses block accountability for primary Martin County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-11-07 7:12 am (TX) 9/07 - Hilarious but improper: video of lawmakers cheat-voting... State of Texas - Noncompliance, enforcement issues with legislator voting rulesBrant Lamb11 1 10-3-07 5:06 am (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 testing continues... Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsRussell Novkov2 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (IN) 10/07 - Belly-up vendor, in come different machines Randolph County - Voting systems: ProcurementBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 report imminent Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:46 pm (US) 9/07 - If MS Excel bug = math errors, trust e-voting? US - Computer program: Incident reportBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:38 pm (NC) 9/07 - The registrar's secret lair Montgomery County - Chain of custodyBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 4:12 pm (NJ) 9/07 - Judge stalls on paper trail Mercer County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 3:46 pm (US) 9/07 - Less than 1/2 of military overseas votes counted US - Absentee / mail-in voting: Incidents, access problemsBev Harris 6 1 9-30-07 3:17 pm (GA) 9/07 - What's the punishment for throwing out 93,000 voter reg... Fulton County - Chain of custody / Privacy protection issuesBev Harris 1 1 9-28-07 9:12 am (US) 9/07 - Gird for massive new voting machine purchases: New stan... US - Voting systems: Standards, certification, procurementBrant Lamb16 1 9-27-07 5:02 am (PA) 9/07 County Commissioners' Assocation Opposes HR811 State of Pennsylvania - LegislationSamuel Scharff32 1 9-24-07 11:29 pm (CT) 9/07 - Voting rights activists express disappointment at CT s... State of Connecticut - Voting systems: Security Catherine Ansbro2 1 9-22-07 6:36 pm (NV) 9/07 - County to "prove Sequioa machines are secure"... Washoe County - Voting systems: SecurityBev Harris 1 1 9-22-07 9:43 am (IL) 9/07 - Indictment: Teamster Union vote rigging Teamster's Union [Chicago] - "Trust Me" failureBev Harris 1 1 9-8-07 4:48 pm (US) 2007 National news archive (see state foru... 130 24 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2006 National news archive (see state foru... 482 60 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2005 National news archive (see state foru... 310 152 10-11-07 12:24 pm (US) 2004 National news archive (see state forums for state news)... 77 42 10-11-07 12:24 pm Start New Thread 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review Reviews Voted Most Helpful Votes are counted and displayed within 24 hours HM 1355196 37% Similar To You HM 1355196's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is an excellent documentary that I think every American should see before they vote again. This is not a movie about Bush vs. Kerry or Republicans vs. Democrats. Its about our current voting system and exposing a multitude of problems with that system as demonstrated in the 2004 election. We are told "EVERY VOTE COUNTS" and this documentary exposes the corruption, mistruths, and shameful negligence and mishandling of these "VOTES" in a way that cannot be denied nor ignored - unless you don't watch it for yourself. 73 out of 78 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful TerBo 40% Similar To You TerBo's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is a must-see documentary, especially for those still doubtful about whether elections in this country can be tampered with. The answer is yes, yes, yes!!! Kudos to Bev Harris who has dedicated years to exposing the corruption surrounding electronic voting. Get this. After Hacking Democracy's premiere on HBO, Harris received death threats. That's how risky and powerful her work is. 67 out of 77 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Shiftdnb 47% Similar To You Shiftdnb's other reviews > 4.0 Stars This is an amazing documentary showing that there are problems with the way we vote in America. When a normal everyday citizen gets up and challenges the system, you see how the system fights back. This woman doesn't give up like most of us would and shows us and one election official in Florida that the way our voting system was run and still is, has errors. 29 out of 36 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Most Recent Reviews SG 178412 23% Similar To You SG 178412's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Anyone who cares at all about the future of democracy in America (R or D or whatever else party affiliation you choose) NEEDS to see this movie. 1 out of 1 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful grw 970297 20% Similar To You grw 970297's other reviews > 5.0 Stars If our so-called government doesn't fix the problems exposed in this excellent documentary, our democracy no longer will exist. Abolish electronic voting machines!! I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Professional Bum 63% Similar To You Professional ...'s other reviews > 5.0 Stars If you are an American & have the ability to vote, please do yourself a favor and put this in your queue immediately(especially since this is an election year). This wonderful documentary proves my point that we have the best democracy that money can buy, along with our judicial system. This film is more frightening than any horror film I've seen, because THIS IS REAL! And this is movie biased? Not at all. It's an absolute eye opener that shows that your vote really doesn't count; and make sure you watch the deleted scenes(another 33 minutes of fantastic footage). 1 out of 1 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews hawk5391 58% Similar To You hawk5391's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Even though I also watched the original slasher classic Black Christmas, this was the scariest movie I saw over the Christmas break. Although the filmmakers obviously have every reason to sensationalize potential problems with electronic voting systems ("good news is no news," right?), the implications here are frightening. Not only did Bev Harris (founder of a non-partisan watchdog group) find voting machine code unprotected on the internet, she was able to successfully hack it and prove that results could be manipulated (you can watch this being done in a matter of seconds in this film). The lack of oversight of the companies who control the majority of electronic voting is astounding, almost as bad as the sloppy manner in which our government oversees the elections themselves. 10 out of 10 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Cassun 53% Similar To You Cassun's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Probably the scariest movie I've watched in a long time. The production value isn't good, but its worth sitting through to find out just how easy it would be for just one person with an agenda to manipulate the outcome of an election. 9 out of 12 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful LR 572736 43% Similar To You LR 572736's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Politics in America is scarey enough, but when you see what is going on with our elections system, you will just go through the roof. We have hoped through the last few centuries that a government of the people, by the people and for the people would not parish from the face of the earth, and that America would be its shining example. After viewing this flick, you will realize just how tarnished our example has become. We have realized in the past decades, that money rules, and it just feels like our votes don't count, only the money that backs our politicians. Only the corporations and special interests have access to the politicians these days, not the people that vote. This picture goes a long way to explaining how that happens. After realizing the truths in this documentary, I feel even more helpless and useless to change a corrupt government by my vote. Did my vote get counted? How would I even know? The facts put forth in this program are just about incredible, but you come away realizing their powerful credibility. I wondered why their hasn't been criminal prosecution of the election fraud that is running rampant in our country today? Where are prosecuters? Why aren't elections officials who ignore our right to have our votes counted, recounter and certified being placed on trial for crimes against the electorate? You owe it to yourself and your country to see this documentary long before the next election. Don't miss this one! 8 out of 9 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful CP 1799900 36% Similar To You CP 1799900's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Wow. I just finished watching this documentary, and I can't believe what I heard and saw. This is not another Michael Moore speculative film that makes assumptions with no factual evidence. This is incredible. Everyone should see this film. It is truly an amazing look inside of our election system. 8 out of 9 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review SN 25968 62% Similar To You SN 25968's other reviews > 5.0 Stars We must all see this movie. It's not JUST about elections. It's about the undermining of our society, the breakdown. My opinion is that we should get away from secret voting and out into the public. Democracy is where WE THE PEOPLE elect our officials. You must see this to know why I write this. 4 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful JR 1824621 61% Similar To You JR 1824621's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is what makes America great: a woman, with a full life, puts it all behind her because she has come across the ultimate injustice and knows that she must right it. This is the story of the creation of the group and webpage BlackBoxVoting.com Having found the Diebold's source code, a code that not even the President of the United States can see, Bev Harris takes the code to an expert. What is revealed causes Harris to criss cross America, to prove the fact that Diebold had literally hijacked democracy. Although it's possible, it's difficult to believe that anyone can think that the 2004 Presidential Election wasn't rigged after viewing this film. A 'must see' for every American. 4 out of 4 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PW 51% Similar To You PW's other reviews > 5.0 Stars One of the scariest movies I've ever seen... because it's true. If you liked 'All the presidents men' or 'The Insider' You'll like this movie. Actually come to think of it, what this story needs is a treatment like the above mentioned movies so the message could have a broader appeal beyond this documentary. 5 out of 6 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful FV 1232392 44% Similar To You FV 1232392's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Highly recommedable as the documentary reveals what we all have been suspecting and fearing in an objective and somewhat scientific way. It is quite timely, and I think we can all relate to the topic at hand. I was touched by the reaction of some of the people in the movie when they proved how the voting system can be hacked without much effort 4 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Steve Smith 38% Similar To You Steve Smith's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Unbelievable. That's how I describe this excellent documentary. Every citizen of the USA owes it to themselves to watch this documentary. It is just shocking. It calls into question everything we know about how our votes are recorded in this country. My jaw literally dropped when I saw one part of it. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it. You MUST watch this! 4 out of 4 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Ben5765 35% Similar To You Ben5765's other reviews > 4.0 Stars This film is all about voting machines and how votes are tabulated. It makes mincemeat of the Diebold Corporation, manufacturer of a large percentage of the electronic voting machines used in the United States. It reveals Diebold officials making lie after lie about the security of their machines. The makers of the film meticulously document how, using Diebold's machines and data cards, someone with just a basic understanding of the technology involved (including, certainly, any Diebold employee) could rig the vote count, on one machine or on thousands of them, with absolutely no record that the rigging was ever done. The film also reveals how Diebold's chief executive officer was (and maybe still is) a large contributor to the Republican Party. He once wrote a letter stating that he would "deliver" Ohio's electoral votes in the 2004 presidential election for George W. Bush. The film later shows how his company managed to persuade Cuyahoga County, Ohio (where Cleveland is) to buy its machines. Maybe there is nothing fishy going on there, but appearances matter! Lest the film be seen as partisan, it features, among others, a Republican office-seeker from Louisiana who, after losing her race, went to view a demonstration of the machines that the voters used. As part of the demonstration she pressed the button next to her name, and the machine registered a vote for her opponent. Hmmm. She was understandably troubled. Moreover, the film points out that in many parts of the country it is in fact the local Republican Party that is wary of electronic voting machines, not the Democrats. Hacking Democracy also reveals problems with punch card voting systems--problems that dwarf the famous "hanging chad" problem of the 2000 presidential vote count in Florida. The film's message is distressing, but it is one all American citizens should hear and see. 5 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AdriH 34% Similar To You AdriH's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Yes, the documentary could use a bit of editing, but the points raised are valid enough to keep it interesting. Instead of taking a partisan view on the movie, realize how intensly frightening this movie really is. Should it be just one grandmother's job to inform us how we're being duped? No. It's our responsibility as citizens to stay informed and demand voting accuracy. 5 out of 7 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful DM 1548398 12% Similar To You DM 1548398's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Frightening and timely documentary that exposes the very painful truth about the U.S. electoral system and vote count fraud. A must see if you plan to vote ever! 5 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PM 748973 — —% Similar To You PM 748973's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This presentation should be shown to every high school junior and senior. Maybe they will be able to bring about the changes needed to restore our country to what it once was. Our democratic republic is long gone. 6 out of 6 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review Lee Anne and Tim 64% Similar To You Lee Anne and ...'s other reviews > 5.0 Stars Every voter should see this film. It leaves you with your head shaking, wondering how the history of the last 8 years might read if the vote-tampering exposed in Hacking Democracy hadnt been possible. Also a testament to how one regular person can make a difference, this documentary is very well done. Youll hate what you learn. 6 out of 10 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful yla 83539 39% Similar To You yla 83539's other reviews > 5.0 Stars SA 1674508, Yazheirx, JR 65420, RS 305556, their reviews are absolutely the threat that we all have about democracy. It is because their kind of ignorance that this movie is a 5 star and a must for every single human being to watch and learn. There is no excuse for any voting system to be too technical, too complex, too secret that we cannot prove what the votes were years from when the votes were taken. Not even 50 years, not even 100 years, not even 1000 years, not ever. For anyone to suggest that the electronic voting system is not possible to understand and to do a documentary for by a handful of heroic citizens, it is an insult to this country and democracy. Let these be the commandments of election: 1) No voting methods should be more complicated than what pen/pencil can do on a ballot. 2) Vote handling in any election process should be transparent to the public no matter when, why, how, what, who. 3) Only 100% accuracy should be accepted. Anything less then 100% should be recounted no matter how many times, how long it takes, and how much it cost to be 100% accurate. 4) Without 100% accuracy, election cannot be concluded. Another election should be conducted immediately without further delay. 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful ayi 554466 35% Similar To You ayi 554466's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Factual information clearly presented. I fear it is all too true and I fear for the next election. 5 out of 8 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AL 1659593 33% Similar To You AL 1659593's other reviews > 2.0 Stars For content, I'd give it 3 stars. It was an eye-opening look at the problems at the flaws of the "touch screen" and memory card system. What turned me off was the overboard emotions and cheesy speeches from the women of the watchdog groups. 4 out of 6 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful TD 1852913 31% Similar To You TD 1852913's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I simply cannot believe this is true. I simply cannot believe the voting process is so secretive! I am still in High School and I could probably devise a system more secure than what every American trusts to count their votes! Every American owes it to themselves to watch this incredible docudrama of corporate greed, secrecy, corruption, and lies. Every American. 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AK 817970 29% Similar To You AK 817970's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I would have to agree with everyone else in stating this a must see film for everyone. I was shocked and surprised at how poorly designed the electronic voting system is. How corrupt the political voting process is. Without this video no one would have seen the voting process. Watch this film you won't regret it. 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful jes 881880 26% Similar To You jes 881880's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Eye opening. My question is, "Why haven't criminal investigations been started?!?" I agree with the majority of the comments saying we should all see this movie; i would add it's imperative we do something with what we know after watching it. Hold our representitives accountable!!! 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful KS 608754 24% Similar To You KS 608754's other reviews > 5.0 Stars If this doesn't make people realize that we need to change how our elections are held, nothing will! Republicans and Democrats should be concerned...ALL AMERICANS should be concerned and angry. If any politician does not want to fix this system, that politician needs to leave their office. 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PD 253868 22% Similar To You PD 253868's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I believe every citizen of voting age in the United States should view this film because it is very informative on the computerized voting systems across the country. After all, if our votes don't count we have no democracy. Watch this fim and tell your family, friends and co-workers to do the same! 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful xpf 1252893 12% Similar To You xpf 1252893's other reviews > 4.0 Stars The content is compelling and if even half of it is true, our democracy is very troubled. We need to demand truth and accuracy at the polls and we need to take action NOW! 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review DH 1154150 62% Similar To You DH 1154150's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Watch this movie. Tell your friends and family to watch this movie. The subjects are intelligent, articulate, and extremely courageous. This movie shows compelling evidence that makes me want to learn more about how easy it has been to alter the "results" of our government's elections, and ask what we can do to stop the fraud! 4 out of 7 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Yazheirx 57% Similar To You Yazheirx's other reviews > 2.0 Stars Like several other reviewers I wanted to like this movie but the spin and lack of solution suggestions prevented me. I agree with the need for more transparency with voting machines. I think we should have an open source voting program such that interest groups can spend their money to improve them. I still could not get past the spin. The final documentary cardinal sin for me is -

A new kind of politics? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0704060020apr06,1,1855420.story?coll=chi-news-hed&?track=sto-topstory MEXICANS IN CHICAGO: A NEW KIND OF POLITICS Influence on both sides of the border Activists' political power is rising in Chicago and their homeland, as they seek reforms through marches and money Advertisement By Antonio Olivo and Oscar Avila Tribune staff reporters April 6, 2007 To outsiders, the men and women gathered inside a sleepy West Side restaurant may have seemed unlikely power brokers: a janitor, a real estate agent and others hardly known outside their circuit of neighborhood dances and back-yard barbecues. Jose Luis Gutierrez, who plotted strategy with the group as a soccer match flickered on a nearby TV, was himself a wholesale grocer until last year. But Gutierrez is now a top aide to Gov. Rod Blagojevich, and he was joined at the table by leaders of Chicago-area Mexican immigrant clubs, the engines behind a new political movement that is making itself felt from Illinois to Michoacan. Gutierrez received smiling nods when he likened the political muscle of the region's 563,000 Mexican immigrants to the power of Irish-Americans in the 19th and 20th Centuries, who came to control the Chicago machine. In May, the strength of Mexicans will be on display when many of the region's 300 immigrant clubs -- known as "hometown associations" -- will help organize a march in downtown Chicago a year after their political coming-out party, demonstrations that flooded the Loop last spring and charged the national immigration debate. For decades Mexican hometown associations have functioned as social networks whose members pooled their money earned here to help build new schools or churches back in Mexico. But leaders in Chicago's largest immigrant group have a more ambitious worldview than their predecessors, even more than the ethnic blocs that preceded them decades ago. Some, like Gutierrez, wield growing influence in both countries. One morning, he's unveiling a blueprint for more immigrant services in Illinois as director of the state's Office of New Americans Policy and Advocacy. The next night, he's brainstorming with activists in his home state of Michoacan about a slate of candidates for Mexico's congress. An active role in Mexican politics might seem at odds with building political influence here. But Gutierrez and others say they form a budding new political consciousness among Mexican immigrants -- a "third nation" of sorts that transcends the border, advancing the community's cause on both sides. "The nation-state concept is changing," said Gutierrez, 46, who came to Chicago in 1986 and led one of the Midwest's largest federations of hometown associations. "You don't have to say, `I am Mexican,' or, `I am American.' You can be a good Mexican citizen and a good American citizen and not have that be a conflict of interest. Sovereignty is flexible." That concept worries some U.S. officials and scholars who see the dual loyalty as undermining the assimilation of Mexican immigrants. Irish, German and Polish immigrants eventually melded into Chicago's landscape, their ties to their native soil largely sentimental. But Mexican immigrants today are linked to their homeland like no group before, scholars say, connected by NAFTA, satellite TV, the Internet, cell phones and cheap non-stop flights. In Mexico, their power stems from the nearly $25 billion these immigrants send home every year, the country's second-highest source of income behind oil. Their political influence surfaces in places like Teloloapan, far up in the cactus-filled hills of the state of Guerrero, where a Chicago restaurateur helped build new roads and business. Grateful townspeople elected him mayor in a landslide. In the U.S., immigrants' power is driven by numbers and a growing deftness at the levers of this country's political machinery. That recently manifested itself in a fledgling political action committee called Mexicans for Political Progress, which raised $23,000 for Blagojevich's re-election and rallied volunteers to walk precincts during November's election. An unfolding movement Fabian Morales, a soft-spoken Realtor with a well-clipped mustache, stands at the center of the unfolding movement. He handled logistics for three massive immigration marches in Chicago last year -- including a four-day walk to suburban Batavia -- and co-founded Mexicans for Political Progress. After coming to Chicago in 1970, Morales helped launch one of the city's then-few hometown clubs, devoted to his tiny native village of Xonacatla, Guerrero. Back then, Xonacatla was without roads, potable water or electricity. It was a slow journey from other towns by foot or horseback, Morales said. The club members in Chicago resolved to change that. Collecting $50 to $100 at a time, Morales and others raised enough through barbecues and door-to-door soliciting to replace a house used for worship services with a towering marble church that rises from the green hillside. Morales has since helped develop CONFEMEX, an umbrella organization for most of the hometown clubs in the Midwest. Among other things, the group is a central voice in economic development in Mexico, representing an estimated $340 million in projects generated by U.S.-based hometown associations in the last five years, according to Mexican federal officials. "We want to focus on creating more jobs there so they don't have to think about emigrating," Morales said. The rising activity of hometown associations caught the eye of the Mexican government, which eventually created a "3-for-1" matching project, where federal, state and local governments split the cost of a new bridge or computer center with the U.S.-based groups. Those projects have given Mexican immigrants "a great moral authority" in their homeland, as well as political cachet, said Carlos Gonzalez, executive director of the Institute for Mexicans in the Exterior, or IME, a Mexican federal government agency that fosters stronger ties with expatriates. "During the 1970s, [Mexicans] called the people who left Mexico and acclimated to the U.S. 'pocho,' which, if you look in the dictionary, means 'spoiled fruit,' " Gonzalez said. "The change we've seen in the public perception of Mexicans in the exterior has been 180 degrees." In 2006, citizens abroad were allowed to vote in Mexican presidential elections for the first time. Leaders are also pushing for changes that would allow expatriates to vote in local elections and even hold elective offices while residing abroad. Recently, Gutierrez and others persuaded Michoacan to become the first state in Mexico to extend voting rights to expatriates. Their rationale: Almost half of those born in Michoacan, Zacatecas and several other Mexican states now live in the U.S. Timoteo "Alex" Manjarrez, 44, is among a small but growing number of Mexican immigrants making a bolder claim in their motherland. Arriving from his native town of Teloloapan, Guerrero, in 1980, Manjarrez spent 19 years in Chicago. The stocky, boyish-looking immigrant worked for years as a dishwasher at the Columbia Yacht Club and, eventually, became owner of three Mexican restaurants in the city. Fulfilling a desire shared by many immigrants, Manjarrez moved back to his native town in 1999 with enough money for his family to live comfortably. But the place he had longed for all those years was still frustratingly poor, despite the investments Manjarrez's hometown club made in new roads and other improvements. Manjarrez, who holds both Mexican and U.S. citizenship, settled in and quickly built a new health club and a hacienda-style restaurant named La Condesa, after the three he still owns in Chicago. In 2004, he ran for mayor of Teloloapan. With long-distance backing from his hometown club friends in Chicago, who sent money and telephoned friends and local officials on his behalf, Manjarrez won handily. 'The city that works' Since taking office, the man who sees Mayor Richard M. Daley as a political role model has pushed to remake Teloloapan into a Mexican version of "the city that works." The effort includes newly paved streets, a recreation center that replaces a local swamp known as "black waters," and a towering hotel being built privately by Manjarrez's family. Next to a new medical clinic, a donated Chicago ambulance sits in the parking lot. Its emblem has been painted over, but it serves as a reminder of the continued links Manjarrez has to his former city, where he maintains a home near Midway Airport, votes in U.S. elections and checks in on his businesses. Aurelio Santamaria Bahena, mayor of a town near Manjarrez's called Tlapehuala, labeled such changes "a blessing" for an area of Mexico dominated by crumbling lean-to houses and children in bare feet pulling bone-thin donkeys. But, as with other parts of the country where the immigrant handprint is deepening, the introduction of U.S.-style governance has also bred resentment. Local leaders of Manjarrez's own Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD) are trying to drum him out of office, arguing he is too brash and condescending. The mayor counters the fight is about his efforts to take away "a plate of corruption that they've been able to eat from for years." The conflict was an uncomfortable backdrop during a recent PRD strategy meeting at a restaurant in Chilpancingo, Guerrero's capital. Headlines that morning featured a march against Manjarrez, orchestrated by his opponents. "People see you as an outsider," a worried Santamaria cautioned Manjarrez. "People don't think you see things as they are here." Manjarrez, wearing a black "La Condesa" windbreaker, patted his friend on the back and smiled. He had a media plan, one that might have made Daley proud. "We'll publish photos of the streets of Teloloapan before and after I came into office," Manjarrez said. "And, we'll ask the people: `Which would you prefer?' " That same week, Mexican immigrants from the U.S. and Canada met in Mexico City, as members of an advisory council created by the Mexican government. With a brash American style, they soon escalated their advice to demands, the members' voices echoing through the meeting hall. Morales, the Chicago Realtor, and about 100 other council members pushed Mexico to lobby the U.S. harder on immigration reform. They chastised their hosts for not creating more jobs. Buttonholing federal legislators in hallways, they reminded elected officials how much their districts relied on money sent from the U.S. They want 'results now' Gregorio Luke, a blond member of the council from Los Angeles partial to designer suits, observed that this kind of behavior wouldn't exist in a purely Mexican forum, where deference toward authority guides nearly all dialogue. "These people come here speaking Spanish, but they're negotiating as Americans," said Luke, a museum director who once oversaw cultural affairs at the Los Angeles Mexican Consulate. "They want to see results now." The meeting of the advisory council also illustrated the provocative overlap of Mexican and American political action. In addition to all-day strategy sessions on how to improve Mexico, council members brainstormed over late-night drinks on next moves in the fight for U.S. immigration reform. Many members had used their existing e-mail network to coordinate simultaneous demonstrations in Chicago, Los Angeles and other cities. Though not active participants in the U.S. immigrant movement, Mexican officials urged their compatriots to keep on fighting. "Let there be no barriers or walls between Mexicans here on the inside and the outside," former Mexican President Vicente Fox told the group, referring to a 2006 U.S. law that allows for a 700-mile fence to be built at the border. The audience stood and cheered. The idea that the Mexican government might be helping its nationals shape U.S. politics has raised red flags, both in the halls of academia and in the more volatile world of talk radio and the Internet. Robert Leiken, director of the immigration and national security program at the right-leaning Nixon Center in Washington, argued that binational activism among Mexican immigrants is bad for both countries. In the U.S., the meetings in Spanish and the often-passionate interest in Mexico's future hinder assimilation, he said. In Mexico, the relationship to hometown associations fosters an unhealthy economic dependence on U.S. remittances. "If I went out to Pilsen and spent some time with people from a hometown association, I'd think these are really cool people," Leiken said. But, "Standing back and looking at this from a social policy standpoint, I see some real problems." James McCann, a Purdue University political science professor, found that immigrants interested in Mexican affairs were more likely to participate in U.S. politics. He helped interview about 1,100 Mexican immigrants and found that hometown clubs promoted activism. "The conventional wisdom is that any transnational engagement is going to suck the oxygen out of your civic life in the States," McCann said. "But it seems that if you open a new avenue of expression in Mexico, that new avenue might pay some other dividends in the U.S." Some of those dividends went directly to the Blagojevich campaign last fall, when the governor found himself being serenaded by a trumpet-playing mariachi band inside the Hacienda Tecalitlan restaurant on the Near Northwest Side. Near a trickling courtyard fountain, Morales praised the governor in Spanish at the kickoff dinner for the Mexicans for Political Progress PAC. While Morales once raised money for his hometown with $1 tamales, the price here was as much as $500 a plate. "Let us demonstrate our political power by voting in the election, by voting for our friends interested in the prosperity of Mexicans. Friends like Gov. Rod Blagojevich!" Morales told the crowd. Blagojevich, who speaks a hint of Spanish, took the microphone and shouted: "Viva Chivas!" a reference to a popular Mexican soccer team. When the laughter and applause subsided, he switched to English and added: "By organizing, you are empowering a community. Your voice will be heard." The mood is darker in northwest suburban Carpentersville, where a growing Mexican community has rallied in large numbers in the face of a local backlash against undocumented immigrants. Last fall, about 3,000 Mexican immigrants and their supporters turned up outside Carpentersville's City Hall in an unexpected show of opposition to a proposed ordinance that would penalize landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and employers who hire them. The crowd was so riled a vote on the ordinance was postponed and has yet to be taken. The quick response came largely due to the hometown association representing the village of La Purisima, Michoacan, local activists said. The club turned to its telephone list of 400 families, said Salvador Balleno, the group's president. The turnout was a victory, but it has not deterred Carpentersville trustees from other proposals that would allow local police to trigger deportation proceedings against illegal immigrants and make English the village's official language. And as Balleno has struggled to register voters and rally volunteers for this month's village elections, even sympathetic politicians have seemed hesitant to link themselves too closely with the hometown association. Balleno now fears the village's hard-liners have the upper hand, intimidating some of the immigrants who protested last fall. "The [club] members know that if these people stay [in office] it is going to affect their kids," Balleno said, sounding anxious that an opportunity was slipping through his fingers. Jose Artemio Arreola, a key organizer of next month's march in Chicago, has been actively monitoring the battle in Carpentersville. He sees the activity there as part of a plan to create a political empire for Mexican immigrants, one linking hometown associations in Chicago and other cities to labor unions and Mexico's congress. His strategy includes moving back to his native state of Michoacan to run for congress there, something Arreola never imagined doing when he left a town overrun by poverty and ruled by local drug kingpins. He got his start in Chicago working in a plastics factory. Frustrated by the union representation there, he ran for shop steward and won. Unable to speak English, he relied on his bilingual co-workers to help him negotiate union contracts. He has since become a school janitor in Oak Park. The position pays little, but it has allowed Arreola to climb the ranks of the Service Employees International Union, where he has become key in that union's national efforts to tap further into the country's exploding Mexican immigrant workforce. All the while, Arreola has used the sharp elbows and old-school union tactics acquired in Chicago to become a power broker in his hometown of Acuitzio del Canje. He started in 2004 when the local mayor refused to back projects proposed by his hometown association. Arreola, a burly backslapper partial to gold neck chains, recalled thinking: "I need to take them out." He recruited a teacher to run for mayor in the Mexican town. Arreola then brought back a town phone book and, with others in Chicago, called voters one by one, promising a stream of U.S. investment if his candidate won. The incumbent opted for traditional rallies and car tours through town with a bullhorn. More than two years later, sitting in a Pilsen restaurant, Arreola opened a laptop computer and showed off the fruits of what proved to be an easy victory. Pictures of a new retirement home popped onto the screen, one featuring a grinning Arreola at a groundbreaking ceremony. Another showed a new computer lab with 40 computers for local schoolchildren, an investment in the future of Acuitzio del Canje. The town's name comes from an 1865 decision to make it the site for a "canje," or exchange of prisoners between warring Mexican and French troops. Sitting deep in the dusty mountains of Michoacan, it was neutral ground back then, Arreola explained, territory that didn't fully belong to either country but, in some ways, belonged to both. ---------- aolivo@tribune.com oavila@tribune.com - - - IN THE WEB EDITION Jose Artemio Arreola is one of several Mexican hometown association leaders in Chicago with multiple connections in Mexico and the U.S. From helping organize last year's massive immigration marches to slating political candidates in his home state, he wields influence on both sides of the border. To learn more about Arreola, watch videos and see photo galleries, go to chicagotribune.com/mexicansinchicago. Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune

Is your son or daughter a computer hacker (READ)? As an enlightened, modern parent, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six children. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. My children have never failed to make me proud, and I can say without the slightest embellishment that I have the finest family in the USA. Two years ago, my wife Carol and I decided that our children's education would not be complete without some grounding in modern computers. To this end, we bought our children a brand new Compaq to learn with. The kids had a lot of fun using the handful of application programs we'd bought, such as Adobe's Photoshop and Microsoft's Word, and my wife and I were pleased that our gift was received so well. Our son Peter was most entranced by the device, and became quite a pro at surfing the net. When Peter began to spend whole days on the machine, I became concerned, but Carol advised me to calm down, and that it was only a passing phase. I was content to bow to her experience as a mother, until our youngest daughter, Cindy, charged into the living room one night to blurt out: "Peter is a computer hacker!" As you can imagine, I was amazed. A computer hacker in my own house! I began to monitor my son's habits, to make certain that Cindy wasn't just telling stories, as she is prone to doing at times. After a few days of investigation, and some research into computer hacking, I confronted Peter with the evidence. I'm afraid to say, this was the only time I have ever been truly disappointed in one of my children. We raised them to be honest and to have integrity, and Peter betrayed the principles we tried to encourage in him, when he refused point blank to admit to his activities. His denials continued for hours, and in the end, I was left with no choice but to ban him from using the computer until he is old enough to be responsible for his actions. After going through this ordeal with my own family, I was left pondering how I could best help others in similar situations. I'd gained a lot of knowledge over those few days regarding hackers. It's only right that I provide that information to other parents, in the hope that they will be able to tell if their children are being drawn into the world of hacking. Perhaps other parents will be able to steer their sons back onto the straight and narrow before extreme measures need to be employed. To this end, I have decided to publish the top ten signs that your son is a hacker. I advise any parents to read this list carefully and if their son matches the profile, they should take action. A smart parent will first try to reason with their son, before resorting to groundings, or even spanking. I pride myself that I have never had to spank a child, and I hope this guide will help other parents to put a halt to their son's misbehaviour before a spanking becomes necessary. 1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs? Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL. These providers have a strict "No Hacking" policy, and take careful measures to ensure that your internet experience is enjoyable, educational and above all legal. If your child is becoming a hacker, one of his first steps will be to request a change to a more hacker friendly provider. I would advise all parents to refuse this request. One of the reasons your son is interested in switching providers is to get away from AOL's child safety filter. This filter is vital to any parent who wants his son to enjoy the internet without the endangering him through exposure to "adult" content. It is best to stick with the protection AOL provides, rather than using a home-based solution. If your son is becoming a hacker, he will be able to circumvent any home-based measures with surprising ease, using information gleaned from various hacker sites. 2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing? Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash". The best option is to confront your son with the evidence, and force him to remove the offending programs. He will probably try to install the software again, but you will be able to tell that this is happening, if your machine offers to "download" one of the hacker applications. If this happens, it is time to give your son a stern talking to, and possibly consider punishing him with a grounding. 3. Has your child asked for new hardware? Computer hackers are often limited by conventional computer hardware. They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer. If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well. 4. Does your child read hacking manuals? If you pay close attention to your son's reading habits, as I do, you will be able to determine a great deal about his opinions and hobbies. Children are at their most impressionable in the teenage years. Any father who has had a seventeen year old daughter attempt to sneak out on a date wearing make up and perfume is well aware of the effect that improper influences can have on inexperienced minds. There are, unfortunately, many hacking manuals available in bookshops today. A few titles to be on the lookout for are: "Snow Crash" and "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson; "Neuromancer" by William Gibson; "Programming with Perl" by Timothy O'Reilly; "Geeks" by Jon Katz; "The Hacker Crackdown" by Bruce Sterling; "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland; "Hackers" by Steven Levy; and "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric S. Raymond. If you find any of these hacking manuals in your child's possession, confiscate them immediately. You should also petition local booksellers to remove these titles from their shelves. You may meet with some resistance at first, but even booksellers have to bow to community pressure. 5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day? If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. DOSing involves gaining access to the "command prompt" on other people's machines, and using it to tie up vital internet services. This can take up to eight hours. If your son is doing this, he is breaking the law, and you should stop him immediately. The safest policy is to limit your children's access to the computer to a maximum of forty-five minutes each day. 6. Does your son use Quake? Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms. Many hackers develop anti-social tendencies due to the use of this virtual world, and it may cause erratic behaviour at home and at school. If your son is using Quake, you should make hime understand that this is not acceptable to you. You should ensure all the firearms in your house are carefully locked away, and have trigger locks installed. You should also bring your concerns to the attention of his school. 7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour? As a child enters the electronic world of hacking, he may become disaffected with the real world. He may lose the ability to control his actions, or judge the rightness or wrongness of a course of behaviour. This will manifest itself soonest in the way he treats others. Those whom he disagrees with will be met with scorn, bitterness, and even foul language. He may utter threats of violence of a real or electronic nature. Even when confronted, your son will probably find it difficult to talk about this problem to you. He will probably claim that there is no problem, and that you are imagining things. He may tell you that it is you who has the problem, and you should "back off" and "stop smothering him." Do not allow yourself to be deceived. You are the only chance your son has, even if he doesn't understand the situation he is in. Keep trying to get through to him, no matter how much he retreats into himself. 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone. Your son may try to install "lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional. If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface. 9. Has your son radically changed his appearance? If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying "glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) There are many such hackers in schools today, and your son may have started to associate with them. If you notice that your son's group of friends includes people dressed like this, it is time to think about a severe curfew, to protect him from dangerous influences. 10. Is your son struggling academically? If your son is failing courses in school, or performing poorly on sports teams, he may be involved in a hacking group, such as the infamous "Otaku" hacker association. Excessive time spent on the computer, communicating with his fellow hackers may cause temporary damage to the eyes and brain, from the electromagnetic radiation. This will cause his marks to slip dramatically, particularly in difficult subjects such as Math, and Chemistry. In extreme cases, over-exposure to computer radiation can cause schizophrenia, meningitis and other psychological diseases. Also, the reduction in exercise may cause him to lose muscle mass, and even to start gaining weight. For the sake of your child's mental and physical health, you must put a stop to his hacking, and limit his computer time drastically. I encourage all parents to read through this guide carefully. Your child's future may depend upon it. Hacking is an illegal and dangerous activity, that may land your child in prison, and tear your family apart. It cannot be taken too seriously.

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Hurley6 1 7-12-06 8:37 am 07-08-06: Citizen Oversight - Pay Special Attention to Missing ItemsJody Holder19 1 7-12-06 4:20 pm 7-04-06: Black Box Voting's Declaration of IndependenceBev Harris19 1 7-15-06 1:40 pm Fourth of July Fireworks: Unredacted Hursti reports, photos releasedBrant Lamb44 1 7-12-06 5:20 am 6-27-06: Whatever happens in Utah elections - Capture on camera, audioV. Kurt Bellman11 1 6-29-06 10:44 am 6-26-06: The ultimate insult: Paper ballots entered into touch-screensTom Courbat16 1 6-28-06 1:42 pm 6-22-06: A 'Plan B' for voting machines: The National Hand Count Re...Bev Harris7 1 6-24-06 11:43 am 6-15-06: Solutions through citizen oversightBrant Lamb52 1 7-25-06 7:19 pm 6-12-06: Trouble seeks trouble - King County elections chief goes t...Tom Courbat8 1 6-21-06 6:08 pm 6-6-06: Hear the train a'comin' , Comin' round the bendBrant Lamb12 1 6-9-06 10:14 am 6-5-06: Citizens -- Here's how to watchdog electionBev Harris13 1 6-6-06 12:37 pm 5-23-06: Supplmental report adds new concerns to Hursti IIBev Harris51 1 7-1-06 10:49 am 5-19-06: Substitute 'L' for 'D' - Diebold claims Utah tests failed...Kathleen Wynne16 1 6-27-06 6:26 am 5-11-06: Three-level security flaws found in Diebold touch-screensRobert Sawdey182 1 6-7-06 11:52 am 5-10-06: Update on TSx reportCatherine Ansbro5 1 5-11-06 4:47 pm 5-10-06: As the Emery County findings evolve: Diebold's and Georgia...Joseph Hall5 1 5-11-06 2:15 pm 5-9-06: The Ohio Election BackwashAdele Eisner34 1 8-2-06 3:26 pm 5-4-06: Touch-screens fail security tests, Diebold retaliatessuhkara a yahweh`16 1 5-9-06 9:15 pm 5-4-06: Your chance to get evidence: WV, NE, KY, OR, PABev Harris1 1 5-4-06 9:13 am 5-2-06: Is the 2006 election train still on its tracks?John Washburn26 1 5-12-06 3:29 pm 4-24-06: Diebold whistleblower Stephen Heller compared to Daniel El...Russell Novkov2 1 4-24-06 3:06 pm 4-13-06: Last transcript - Calif. ITA hearings.John Washburn3 1 4-14-06 9:20 am 4-8-06: Why the Rush Holt bill (H.B. 550) is dangerousJonathan104 1 5-16-06 2:46 am 4-6-06: Utah Lt. Governor's office admits: some Diebold serial numb...ed hill32 1 4-10-06 7:24 pm 4-5-06: Transcript: Wyle Labs thinks Hursti Hack means 'the system ...John Washburn11 1 4-6-06 7:59 am 4-4-06: More Voting Machine Test Lab TranscriptsBev Harris12 1 4-6-06 11:32 pm 4-3-06: ALERT - elections officials: Diebold making 'visits' to you...Bruce Sims5 1 4-4-06 11:08 am 3-31-06: Bravissima! Calif. Senate Elections Committee grills two ...Catherine Ansbro28 1 4-12-06 1:59 pm 3-29-06: FL Attorney General Hits Voting Machine Vendors With Inves...Bev Harris4 1 3-30-06 10:39 am 3-28-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold attempts to explain TSx memory def...Bev Harris34 1 4-3-06 9:17 am 03-18-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold TSx touch-screen study (Part I)...Joseph Hall50 1 4-7-06 10:29 am 3-17-2006: New Black Box Voting report to be issued on Diebold TSx ...Jody Holder11 1 3-19-06 11:34 pm 3-11-06: The Stephen Heller Legal Defense FundJohn Washburn6 1 3-12-06 8:23 pm 3-8-06: Ion Sancho pits his lawyers against DieboldPat Vesely10 1 3-14-06 2:02 pm 3-3-06: While Florida vindicates Ion Sancho, Jeb Bush threatens Sa...Daniel R Spak29 1 3-19-06 5:45 pm 2-28-06: Take action NOW: Bullies pounding on whistleblowerRobert Sawdey11 1 3-9-06 5:47 pm 2-23-06: Someone accessed 40 Palm Beach County voting machines Nov ...Bev Harris110 1 3-9-06 7:30 am 2-21-06: An open letter to Bruce McPherson and the citizens of the ...Joycelynn Straight22 1 2-27-06 9:01 pm 2-17-06: BREAKING: Calif. Sec. State certifies entire Diebold produ...Bev Harris52 1 4-3-06 10:20 am 2-17-06: Election family tree: Who got us into this and how did the...Catherine Ansbro4 1 3-30-06 10:40 am 2-11-06: Voting machine examiners chickening out on Senate investig...Ron Crane24 1 2-18-06 1:27 pm 2-6-06: Landes takes e-voting to Supreme CourtV. Kurt Bellman24 1 4-19-06 10:33 am 2-6-06: Diebold agrees to waive proprietary claims to GEMS database...Marian Beddill12 1 2-11-06 1:38 pm 2-5-06: What protects your personal information once it enters e-el...Paul Lehto70 1 7-21-06 1:17 pm 2-2-06: Embezzler Jeff Dean remote accessed Calif. counties for 200...Kathleen Wynne4 1 2-2-06 8:38 am 2-1-06: Voting system examiners blocked from telling what they know?Byron Hale21 1 2-6-06 3:16 am 1-31-06: Diebold anticipates $100 to $125 million in 2006 voting sy...Bev Harris1 1 1-31-06 8:56 am 1-26-06: Elections Programmer Jeff Dean worked for same firm as for...Bev Harris25 1 1-27-06 12:45 pm 1-24-06: Public Records Get The Big Chill: Alaska's Voters vs Diebo...Jim March5 1 1-31-06 2:29 pm 1-13-06: ES&S reneges on Leon County deal 2 days before HAVA deadl...Catherine Ansbro33 1 1-17-06 1:20 am 1-9-2006: DuPage County Elections paid $30,000 to Republican politi...Bev Harris12 1 2-3-06 8:20 am 1-5-06: Wisconsin moves toward public source, then guts itJohn Washburn10 1 1-5-06 4:21 pm 1-3-2006: Hold on to your lugnuts, ES&S and Sequoia may risk Hurst...Brant Lamb33 1 1-25-06 4:56 am 12-30-05: Roll up your sleeves, we ain't done yet!BBV Admin1 1 12-30-05 4:26 pm 12-28-2005: Pennsylvania declines some Diebold but reveals an odd biasArnold Peckerman24 1 12-31-05 2:17 pm 12-23-05: ES&S under fire in CaliforniaEdward Robles5 1 12-26-05 5:36 am 12-20-05: California 'Hack' test stalled as Diebold certification d...Brant Lamb116 1 1-25-06 1:27 pm 12-13-05: Devastating hack proven - Leon County dumps DieboldSamuel Scharff97 1 5-29-06 9:25 pm 12-9-05: Diebold hack test -- Sec. State / Black Box lawyer square offJim March6 1 12-12-05 3:01 pm 12-7-05: Diebold stockholder suit - here's some ammoJim March7 1 12-8-05 9:37 am 12-4-05: 'Leave it up to us, we know best' say officialsBBV Admin27 2 12-15-05 4:17 am 11-30-05: Nope, the hack test won't be todayCatherine Ansbro25 1 1-3-06 12:51 am 11-28-05: Latest on California hack situationBruce Sims45 1 11-30-05 4:40 pm 11-24-05: Turkey Day leftovers: No thanks for stuffing elections wi...Edward Robles2 1 11-27-05 7:55 am 11-23-05: Flag on the play - Calif. Sec. State official calls foul ...Catherine Ansbro17 1 11-29-05 10:18 am 11-22-05: California invites Black Box Voting to hack Diebold votin...John Washburn31 1 12-9-05 8:23 am 11-22-2005: Updates on felons - Jeffrey Dean and John ElderBBV Admin7 1 11-22-05 9:37 am 11-21-05: Diebold violates court orderBBV Admin10 1 11-28-05 8:27 am 11-18-05: Fasten your seatbelts - It's time to bring this thing in ...Edward Robles7 1 11-27-05 9:12 am 11-15-05: FEC Investigating rapper P. Diddy (but not Blackwell or M...Edward Robles5 1 11-27-05 9:16 am 11-13-05: Detroit, Michigan elections are now a significant concernBBV Admin11 1 11-23-05 5:16 am 11-9-05: Los Angeles County has the dog & pony show downEdward Robles2 1 11-27-05 9:33 am 11-8-05: Share your observations on voting today hereKathleen Wynne10 1 11-10-05 9:15 am 11-6-05: Two state elections heads resign in FloridaBBV Admin6 1 11-6-05 5:11 am 11-4-05: Mail-in votes at higher risk with Diebold systemsBBV Admin1 1 11-4-05 8:00 am 11-3-05: The first public examination under the 15004 lawJohn Washburn5 1 11-6-05 6:41 am 10-28-05: Blackwell Blunders on Voting Machine ExaminationJohn Washburn14 1 10-31-05 11:23 am 10-26-05: The 'Perimeter Defense' - Follies and FailuresBBV Admin7 1 10-31-05 3:57 pm 10-21-05: GAO & NIST - Voting machine security finally goes mainstr...From the Mailbag10 1 10-29-05 11:39 am 10-9-05: VotoScope audit tool will catch Hart Intercivic bugBev Harris22 1 10-12-05 1:06 pm 10-8-05: Investors considering Diebold class action suitBev Harris1 1 10-8-05 3:08 pm 10-5-05: Diebold Lies Move Up the LadderBev Harris5 1 10-8-05 3:21 pm 9-19-2005: Carter-Baker Panel Report: Proposed Reforms Miss the BoatBrad Friedman52 1 10-3-05 12:02 pm 9-10-2005: Here's your chance to 'Look inside the Black Box':...alex baxter21 1 11-1-05 4:23 am 9-7-2005: Digital Image ballot scanners -- good or bad?Brant Lamb19 1 10-5-05 4:41 am 8-25-2005: Voting Rights Act expiration 2007Admin3 1 8-25-05 9:56 am 8-15-05: Election Reform -- Impending ShuffleCatherine_a107 1 8-25-05 1:51 pm 8-13-2005: If this doesn't get your blood boiling...Ubetchaiam9 1 8-15-05 11:24 am 8-10-2005: Mississippi Paper Trail ImminentCatherine Ansbro18 1 12-14-05 2:47 am 8-9-2005: Exactly what we don't want: Our election on Diebold's ser...John Howard13 1 10-5-05 8:20 pm 8-8-2005: Arcata, (CA) seeks to wrest election control from corpora...jimmarch6 1 8-12-05 12:33 am 8-5-05: 'Think Outside the Black Box' - ONLINE THINK TANK Admin5 1 8-17-05 7:46 am 8-3-05: San Diego backs down on charges against BBV director Jim MarchUbetchaiam32 1 8-22-05 12:01 pm 7-29-2005: Mississippi, listen up: California just rejected the TSxadmin17 1 8-13-05 8:15 pm 7-28-05: In his own words: Jim March on taking back his civil rightsmymarkx11 1 7-29-05 11:46 am 7-26-2005: BBV Board Member Arrested in San Diego for Viewing Vote-...cleanbean63 1 7-29-05 4:17 pm 7-25-2005: Wondering about mail-in voting? Diebold's new VoteRemote...Catherine Ansbro28 1 3-30-06 12:43 pm 7-21-2005: ES&S, Diebold lobbyists had ties to bribery investigatio...mary_ann9 1 7-31-05 12:00 am 7-20-2005: Internal documents reveal more Diebold ethics problemsadmin4 1 7-20-05 7:24 am 7-18-2005: Are The Lights Going Out In Georgia?admin5 1 7-22-05 3:14 pm 7-17-2005: Gallina (Diebold) reportedly paid Blackwell, GOP cronies...admin1 1 7-17-05 12:07 pm 7-11-2005: Case Against Diebold and Florida Division of Electionskathleen_wynne3 1 7-13-05 9:32 am 7-4-2005: The Black Box ReportJohn Dean36 1 5-8-06 6:05 pm 7-3-2005: Diebold accounting mistake -- SEC stuff may be a biggieadmin11 1 7-4-05 10:58 pm 7-1-2005: July 4 Security Alert for Diebold Optical Scanscatherine_a17 1 7-5-05 1:29 am 6-24-2005: Black Box Voting Litigation Fund LaunchedBev Harris2 1 2-3-06 8:22 am 6-17-05: Report on Calif. meeting -- Decertify Diebold?ubetchaiam11 1 7-21-05 2:37 pm 6-8-2005: Palm Beach County fails auditlinda_franz7 1 6-15-05 8:29 am 5-27-05: Optical scan system hacked (3 ways) - BBV ExclusiveBrant Lamb73 1 8-9-06 11:06 am 5-9-05: Consumer Report Series -- Following the Money Trail – Part Iadmin1 1 5-9-05 3:18 pm 5-6-04: $45m (Diebold?) contract flying under radar in Cook County ...admin2 1 5-6-05 2:53 pm 5-11-05: CANCELLED - Call to action May 19, Sacramentoadmin1 1 5-6-05 11:05 am 5-04-05 – Easier Hacking Access Sneaks in w. ADA Compliance Measuresadmin1 1 5-4-05 9:25 pm 4-24-05: LA's InkaVote system tied to Malaysian gambling outfitadmin1 1 4-24-05 12:43 pm 4-20-2005: Paper trail advocates - The devil in the detailsadmin1 1 4-20-05 11:54 am 4-18-2005: Diebold Lobbyist Documents Reveal Problemsadmin1 1 4-18-05 9:54 am 3-8-2005: Hack of Real-Life Voting System Demonstratedadmin1 1 3-9-05 12:51 pm 2-22-2005: Activating the Eagles -- Events this weekend in Californiaadmin1 1 2-22-05 5:08 pm 2-21-2005: Snohomish County (WA) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 4:51 pm 2-21-2005: Orange County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:57 pm 2-21-2005: Broward County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:14 pm 2-21-2005: Palm Beach County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 11:04 am 2-21-2005: Volusia County (FL) Updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 7:02 am 2-1-2005: Black Box Voting donates $2000 to Ohio lawyersadmin1 1 2-1-05 2:51 pm 1-28-05: Eagles rolling up sleeves in Ohio, Florida, Californiaadmin1 1 1-28-05 6:30 am 1-20-05: BULLETIN: California Panel OKs Voter Privacy Removaladmin1 1 1-20-05 6:05 pm 1-18-05: Consumer Protection lawsuit activated against Dieboldadmin1 1 1-19-05 4:43 am 1-17-05: Black Box Voting Document Archiveadmin1 1 1-17-05 1:42 pm 1-10-05: Exposing the Crypto Solutionadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:20 am 1-6-05: Constitutional Equal Protection Amendment for Voters?admin1 1 1-11-05 6:15 am 1-5-05: Election Misconduct as a Public Records Crisisadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:10 am 1-5-05: Update from Washington D.C.admin1 1 1-11-05 6:01 am 12-30-2004: Volunteer Actions -- Activating the Eaglesadmin1 1 1-11-05 5:50 am 12-29-04: Update on 'Help America Audit'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:44 am 12-28-04: Update for donors, and a look to 2005admin1 1 1-11-05 5:35 am 11-18-2004: Volunteer actions -- How to 'Be the Media'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:56 am Start New Thread Mainstream News Reports Black Box Voting » Latest News » Mainstream News Reports « Previous Next » Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post Dean Logan Says Unaffiliated WriteIns will be Checkedchristine c reid14 1 2-15-08 10:34 am New York Times re Holt BillV. Kurt Bellman26 1 2-8-08 1:57 pm AP Incorrectly calls Missouri for ClintonBill Bowen1 1 2-7-08 8:04 am San Fran CA-KSFO-AM reports Repub registration problemsNancy Tobi9 1 2-7-08 5:49 am Massachusetts results via your friends at LHSMike LaBonte10 1 2-7-08 5:24 am NJ Voting delay included Gov. CorzineMichael W Mather2 1 2-6-08 1:17 pm (CA) 2/08 - Voting machine probs delay Sacramento countPerry Duke9 1 2-5-08 6:34 pm (FL) 1/08 - More Florida voting machine problemsHal Guentert8 1 2-2-08 7:19 pm (FL) 1/08 - Final Florida results inkaren reineke11 1 2-1-08 4:25 pm (CO) 1/15 Democrats Ask Coffman to ResignFran Fleming1 1 2-1-08 9:41 am (FL) 1/08 - Problems already with voting machinesBev Harris 1 1 1-29-08 10:08 am (CO) Paper ballots win over RitterCatherine Ansbro3 1 1-29-08 2:16 am (MI) 12/07 - Proposition for new way to do primaries NEWS: Reform pres. candidate selection processCatherine Ansbro11 1 1-29-08 2:14 am Americans Abroad Can Now Vote Onlinesam lark7 1 1-26-08 3:49 pm (SC) 1/19/08 - Problems at polling locationsts taylor4 1 1-24-08 9:16 pm Feedback appreciated as this unfolds...Bruce Sims2 1 1-24-08 1:52 pm (Ohio) ACLU files suit to block paper ballots New paper ballots ca...Roger Wood20 2 1-20-08 9:43 pm REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER: Election Fraud RoundtableV. Kurt Bellman10 1 1-18-08 7:05 am (CO) Legislators lose their confidence in CoffmanCatherine Ansbro13 1 1-17-08 4:01 pm Olbermann Report !! On Voting Sue West6 1 1-17-08 3:53 pm GOP Figure Contracted to Deliver E-Voting Machines in MarylandAlex Laflamme1 1 1-17-08 9:43 am (NH) Experts skeptical of N.H. ballot-count conspiracy theoryBill Bowen60 1 1-16-08 10:37 pm Making votes countFran Fleming2 1 1-16-08 12:00 pm Ron Paul says in regard to New Hampshire voteDavid Evans1 1 1-13-08 8:32 am Diebold Changing its Buisness name Catherine Ansbro2 1 1-12-08 5:20 am (NH) 1/08 - Man plans recount of Republican vote in N.H. primary...Russell Novkov7 1 1-11-08 11:03 pm (TX) 10/07 - Another corrupt official, election tampering Refugio County - "Trust Me" failureCatherine Ansbro4 1 1-11-08 6:47 pm (FL) 9/07 - Volusia County again -- lots of defective memory cards... Volusia County - Voting system: Incident reportsWilliam Reese2 1 1-8-08 9:19 pm (FL) 10/07 - New machines, still not enough safeguards State of Florida - Voting systems: Transition to optical scan, issuesDon Powers2 1 1-8-08 12:00 am PC Magazine Article 09/12/07Don Powers2 1 1-7-08 10:45 pm (US) Can You Count On These Machines?Bev Harris 21 1 1-7-08 6:18 pm (US) Problems At Poll Permeate U.S. Political ProcessV. Kurt Bellman76 1 1-5-08 4:57 pm Legal Voters Thrown Off RollsV. Kurt Bellman7 1 1-3-08 11:15 am CNN: On the eve of Iowa caucus, some states give e-voting an 'F'...Russell Novkov2 1 1-2-08 3:42 pm (TX) 11/07 - Wharton County GOP will use paper ballots in primary... NEWS: Follow up on vote-flipping incidentLore2 1 1-1-08 3:35 pm (KY) 10/7 - Candidate for elections chief pleads guilty to forgery... Boone County - "Trust Me" FailureKathleen Wynne49 1 12-26-07 2:49 pm (US) 12/07 - FEC doors shut, 'No one left to answer phones'...Alan Brau4 1 12-25-07 8:29 pm (CO) 12/07 - Boulder: Stray marks caused decertificationBev Harris 1 1 12-23-07 9:49 pm (CO) 12/07 - Mesa: Commission defiant on vote machines NEWS: Resisting Colorado decertificationFran Fleming5 1 12-22-07 1:34 pm (AK) 12/07 - Impossible to tell whether 2004 count correct NEWS - Follow up on AZ Dem Party litigationBev Harris 1 1 12-21-07 7:05 am (CO) 12/07 - Denver: Voting gear out for count NEWS: Colo. decertification of Sequoia Julio Edwards1 1 12-18-07 6:41 am (US) 12/07 - Congressional watch tool for citizens PRESS RELEASE: New Freedom of Information toolBev Harris 1 1 12-11-07 7:20 am (PA) 11/07 - Philadelphia: Voter Fraud Allegations Again NEWS: Absentee ballot fraud allegationsV. Kurt Bellman21 1 12-7-07 2:02 pm (NJ) 12/07 - 'We are Neanderthals' - paper trail delayed again... NEWS: New Jersey paper trail statusBobby Arnold2 1 12-6-07 3:20 am (OH) 11/07 - Franklin County: Former elections official charged... NEWS: Election official corruptionBev Harris 2 1 12-2-07 7:50 am (OH) 11/07 - Township results flipped because of error (Lawrence Co... Lawrence County: Voting systems - Incident ReportBev Harris 4 1 11-23-07 2:00 pm (CT) 11/07 - Diebold/Premier machine miscount changes winner Greenwich: Voting systems - Incident reportsCatherine Ansbro4 1 11-23-07 1:47 pm (MS) 11/07 - New election ordered for Louise Linzy race Tunica County: Election incidentsBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 9:05 pm (NH) 11/07 - It's official: Jan. 8 primary date State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 8:28 pm (CA) 11/07 - Sec. State Bowen sues ES&S for $15 million State of California: Voting systems, ES&SBev Harris 3 1 11-21-07 9:09 pm (MI) 11/07 - It's back on: Mich. primary will proceed... State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of InformationBev Harris 1 1 11-21-07 10:38 am (MI) 11/07 - Michigan primary may not happen State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of Information Bev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:22 pm (NH) 11/07 - Pres primary date STILL not certain State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:06 pm (OH) 11/07 - Provisionals may alter outcome Clermont County: Provisional ballotsBev Harris 1 1 11-19-07 5:54 pm (TX) 11/07 - Alteration of live election data in Harris County... Harris County: Voting systems, "Trust Me"Russell Novkov12 1 11-15-07 9:18 pm (US) 11/07 - Sequoia voting systems under new ownership US - VendorsBev Harris 1 1 11-9-07 6:39 am (OH) 11/07 - Polls open later in ES&S location Putnam County - Voting Machines: Incident ReportsPatricia Berg1 1 11-7-07 4:34 am (FL) 10/07 - Appeals court rules The People "moot" Sarasota County - LitigationBev Harris 1 1 11-2-07 8:02 am (CT) 10/07 - Candidate's company will transport voting machines... New Britain - Chain of CustodyBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 11:22 am (IN) 10/07 - Polling locations reduced to four "vote centers"... Tippecanoe County - Access to PollsBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 8:12 am (FL) 10/07 - Wrong Ballots Sent To Miami Absentee Voters Miami-Dade County - Absentee / Mail-in Incident ReportBrant Lamb13 1 10-22-07 11:34 am (PA) 10/07 - County replacing WinVote Lackawanna County - Voting systems: Procurement Alan Brau43 1 10-18-07 7:56 pm (US) 9/07 - E-vote industry massaging itself in the media Voting systems: Security / Chain of CustodyBev Harris 52 1 10-14-07 11:07 am (OH) 10/07 - A funeral for a presidential election State of Ohio - Compliance, enforcement issuesAlan Brau3 1 10-11-07 4:32 pm (FL) 10/07 - Peculiar excuses block accountability for primary Martin County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-11-07 7:12 am (TX) 9/07 - Hilarious but improper: video of lawmakers cheat-voting... State of Texas - Noncompliance, enforcement issues with legislator voting rulesBrant Lamb11 1 10-3-07 5:06 am (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 testing continues... Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsRussell Novkov2 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (IN) 10/07 - Belly-up vendor, in come different machines Randolph County - Voting systems: ProcurementBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 report imminent Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:46 pm (US) 9/07 - If MS Excel bug = math errors, trust e-voting? US - Computer program: Incident reportBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:38 pm (NC) 9/07 - The registrar's secret lair Montgomery County - Chain of custodyBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 4:12 pm (NJ) 9/07 - Judge stalls on paper trail Mercer County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 3:46 pm (US) 9/07 - Less than 1/2 of military overseas votes counted US - Absentee / mail-in voting: Incidents, access problemsBev Harris 6 1 9-30-07 3:17 pm (GA) 9/07 - What's the punishment for throwing out 93,000 voter reg... Fulton County - Chain of custody / Privacy protection issuesBev Harris 1 1 9-28-07 9:12 am (US) 9/07 - Gird for massive new voting machine purchases: New stan... US - Voting systems: Standards, certification, procurementBrant Lamb16 1 9-27-07 5:02 am (PA) 9/07 County Commissioners' Assocation Opposes HR811 State of Pennsylvania - LegislationSamuel Scharff32 1 9-24-07 11:29 pm (CT) 9/07 - Voting rights activists express disappointment at CT s... State of Connecticut - Voting systems: Security Catherine Ansbro2 1 9-22-07 6:36 pm (NV) 9/07 - County to "prove Sequioa machines are secure"... Washoe County - Voting systems: SecurityBev Harris 1 1 9-22-07 9:43 am (IL) 9/07 - Indictment: Teamster Union vote rigging Teamster's Union [Chicago] - "Trust Me" failureBev Harris 1 1 9-8-07 4:48 pm (US) 2007 National news archive (see state foru... 130 24 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2006 National news archive (see state foru... 482 60 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2005 National news archive (see state foru... 310 152 10-11-07 12:24 pm (US) 2004 National news archive (see state forums for state news)... 77 42 10-11-07 12:24 pm Start New Thread 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review Reviews Voted Most Helpful Votes are counted and displayed within 24 hours HM 1355196 37% Similar To You HM 1355196's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is an excellent documentary that I think every American should see before they vote again. This is not a movie about Bush vs. Kerry or Republicans vs. Democrats. Its about our current voting system and exposing a multitude of problems with that system as demonstrated in the 2004 election. We are told "EVERY VOTE COUNTS" and this documentary exposes the corruption, mistruths, and shameful negligence and mishandling of these "VOTES" in a way that cannot be denied nor ignored - unless you don't watch it for yourself. 73 out of 78 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful TerBo 40% Similar To You TerBo's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is a must-see documentary, especially for those still doubtful about whether elections in this country can be tampered with. The answer is yes, yes, yes!!! Kudos to Bev Harris who has dedicated years to exposing the corruption surrounding electronic voting. Get this. After Hacking Democracy's premiere on HBO, Harris received death threats. That's how risky and powerful her work is. 67 out of 77 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Shiftdnb 47% Similar To You Shiftdnb's other reviews > 4.0 Stars This is an amazing documentary showing that there are problems with the way we vote in America. When a normal everyday citizen gets up and challenges the system, you see how the system fights back. This woman doesn't give up like most of us would and shows us and one election official in Florida that the way our voting system was run and still is, has errors. 29 out of 36 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Most Recent Reviews SG 178412 23% Similar To You SG 178412's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Anyone who cares at all about the future of democracy in America (R or D or whatever else party affiliation you choose) NEEDS to see this movie. 1 out of 1 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful grw 970297 20% Similar To You grw 970297's other reviews > 5.0 Stars If our so-called government doesn't fix the problems exposed in this excellent documentary, our democracy no longer will exist. Abolish electronic voting machines!! I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Professional Bum 63% Similar To You Professional ...'s other reviews > 5.0 Stars If you are an American & have the ability to vote, please do yourself a favor and put this in your queue immediately(especially since this is an election year). This wonderful documentary proves my point that we have the best democracy that money can buy, along with our judicial system. This film is more frightening than any horror film I've seen, because THIS IS REAL! And this is movie biased? Not at all. It's an absolute eye opener that shows that your vote really doesn't count; and make sure you watch the deleted scenes(another 33 minutes of fantastic footage). 1 out of 1 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews hawk5391 58% Similar To You hawk5391's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Even though I also watched the original slasher classic Black Christmas, this was the scariest movie I saw over the Christmas break. Although the filmmakers obviously have every reason to sensationalize potential problems with electronic voting systems ("good news is no news," right?), the implications here are frightening. Not only did Bev Harris (founder of a non-partisan watchdog group) find voting machine code unprotected on the internet, she was able to successfully hack it and prove that results could be manipulated (you can watch this being done in a matter of seconds in this film). The lack of oversight of the companies who control the majority of electronic voting is astounding, almost as bad as the sloppy manner in which our government oversees the elections themselves. 10 out of 10 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Cassun 53% Similar To You Cassun's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Probably the scariest movie I've watched in a long time. The production value isn't good, but its worth sitting through to find out just how easy it would be for just one person with an agenda to manipulate the outcome of an election. 9 out of 12 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful LR 572736 43% Similar To You LR 572736's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Politics in America is scarey enough, but when you see what is going on with our elections system, you will just go through the roof. We have hoped through the last few centuries that a government of the people, by the people and for the people would not parish from the face of the earth, and that America would be its shining example. After viewing this flick, you will realize just how tarnished our example has become. We have realized in the past decades, that money rules, and it just feels like our votes don't count, only the money that backs our politicians. Only the corporations and special interests have access to the politicians these days, not the people that vote. This picture goes a long way to explaining how that happens. After realizing the truths in this documentary, I feel even more helpless and useless to change a corrupt government by my vote. Did my vote get counted? How would I even know? The facts put forth in this program are just about incredible, but you come away realizing their powerful credibility. I wondered why their hasn't been criminal prosecution of the election fraud that is running rampant in our country today? Where are prosecuters? Why aren't elections officials who ignore our right to have our votes counted, recounter and certified being placed on trial for crimes against the electorate? You owe it to yourself and your country to see this documentary long before the next election. Don't miss this one! 8 out of 9 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful CP 1799900 36% Similar To You CP 1799900's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Wow. I just finished watching this documentary, and I can't believe what I heard and saw. This is not another Michael Moore speculative film that makes assumptions with no factual evidence. This is incredible. Everyone should see this film. It is truly an amazing look inside of our election system. 8 out of 9 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review SN 25968 62% Similar To You SN 25968's other reviews > 5.0 Stars We must all see this movie. It's not JUST about elections. It's about the undermining of our society, the breakdown. My opinion is that we should get away from secret voting and out into the public. Democracy is where WE THE PEOPLE elect our officials. You must see this to know why I write this. 4 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful JR 1824621 61% Similar To You JR 1824621's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is what makes America great: a woman, with a full life, puts it all behind her because she has come across the ultimate injustice and knows that she must right it. This is the story of the creation of the group and webpage BlackBoxVoting.com Having found the Diebold's source code, a code that not even the President of the United States can see, Bev Harris takes the code to an expert. What is revealed causes Harris to criss cross America, to prove the fact that Diebold had literally hijacked democracy. Although it's possible, it's difficult to believe that anyone can think that the 2004 Presidential Election wasn't rigged after viewing this film. A 'must see' for every American. 4 out of 4 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PW 51% Similar To You PW's other reviews > 5.0 Stars One of the scariest movies I've ever seen... because it's true. If you liked 'All the presidents men' or 'The Insider' You'll like this movie. Actually come to think of it, what this story needs is a treatment like the above mentioned movies so the message could have a broader appeal beyond this documentary. 5 out of 6 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful FV 1232392 44% Similar To You FV 1232392's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Highly recommedable as the documentary reveals what we all have been suspecting and fearing in an objective and somewhat scientific way. It is quite timely, and I think we can all relate to the topic at hand. I was touched by the reaction of some of the people in the movie when they proved how the voting system can be hacked without much effort 4 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Steve Smith 38% Similar To You Steve Smith's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Unbelievable. That's how I describe this excellent documentary. Every citizen of the USA owes it to themselves to watch this documentary. It is just shocking. It calls into question everything we know about how our votes are recorded in this country. My jaw literally dropped when I saw one part of it. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it. You MUST watch this! 4 out of 4 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Ben5765 35% Similar To You Ben5765's other reviews > 4.0 Stars This film is all about voting machines and how votes are tabulated. It makes mincemeat of the Diebold Corporation, manufacturer of a large percentage of the electronic voting machines used in the United States. It reveals Diebold officials making lie after lie about the security of their machines. The makers of the film meticulously document how, using Diebold's machines and data cards, someone with just a basic understanding of the technology involved (including, certainly, any Diebold employee) could rig the vote count, on one machine or on thousands of them, with absolutely no record that the rigging was ever done. The film also reveals how Diebold's chief executive officer was (and maybe still is) a large contributor to the Republican Party. He once wrote a letter stating that he would "deliver" Ohio's electoral votes in the 2004 presidential election for George W. Bush. The film later shows how his company managed to persuade Cuyahoga County, Ohio (where Cleveland is) to buy its machines. Maybe there is nothing fishy going on there, but appearances matter! Lest the film be seen as partisan, it features, among others, a Republican office-seeker from Louisiana who, after losing her race, went to view a demonstration of the machines that the voters used. As part of the demonstration she pressed the button next to her name, and the machine registered a vote for her opponent. Hmmm. She was understandably troubled. Moreover, the film points out that in many parts of the country it is in fact the local Republican Party that is wary of electronic voting machines, not the Democrats. Hacking Democracy also reveals problems with punch card voting systems--problems that dwarf the famous "hanging chad" problem of the 2000 presidential vote count in Florida. The film's message is distressing, but it is one all American citizens should hear and see. 5 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AdriH 34% Similar To You AdriH's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Yes, the documentary could use a bit of editing, but the points raised are valid enough to keep it interesting. Instead of taking a partisan view on the movie, realize how intensly frightening this movie really is. Should it be just one grandmother's job to inform us how we're being duped? No. It's our responsibility as citizens to stay informed and demand voting accuracy. 5 out of 7 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful DM 1548398 12% Similar To You DM 1548398's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Frightening and timely documentary that exposes the very painful truth about the U.S. electoral system and vote count fraud. A must see if you plan to vote ever! 5 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PM 748973 — —% Similar To You PM 748973's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This presentation should be shown to every high school junior and senior. Maybe they will be able to bring about the changes needed to restore our country to what it once was. Our democratic republic is long gone. 6 out of 6 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review Lee Anne and Tim 64% Similar To You Lee Anne and ...'s other reviews > 5.0 Stars Every voter should see this film. It leaves you with your head shaking, wondering how the history of the last 8 years might read if the vote-tampering exposed in Hacking Democracy hadnt been possible. Also a testament to how one regular person can make a difference, this documentary is very well done. Youll hate what you learn. 6 out of 10 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful yla 83539 39% Similar To You yla 83539's other reviews > 5.0 Stars SA 1674508, Yazheirx, JR 65420, RS 305556, their reviews are absolutely the threat that we all have about democracy. It is because their kind of ignorance that this movie is a 5 star and a must for every single human being to watch and learn. There is no excuse for any voting system to be too technical, too complex, too secret that we cannot prove what the votes were years from when the votes were taken. Not even 50 years, not even 100 years, not even 1000 years, not ever. For anyone to suggest that the electronic voting system is not possible to understand and to do a documentary for by a handful of heroic citizens, it is an insult to this country and democracy. Let these be the commandments of election: 1) No voting methods should be more complicated than what pen/pencil can do on a ballot. 2) Vote handling in any election process should be transparent to the public no matter when, why, how, what, who. 3) Only 100% accuracy should be accepted. Anything less then 100% should be recounted no matter how many times, how long it takes, and how much it cost to be 100% accurate. 4) Without 100% accuracy, election cannot be concluded. Another election should be conducted immediately without further delay. 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful ayi 554466 35% Similar To You ayi 554466's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Factual information clearly presented. I fear it is all too true and I fear for the next election. 5 out of 8 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AL 1659593 33% Similar To You AL 1659593's other reviews > 2.0 Stars For content, I'd give it 3 stars. It was an eye-opening look at the problems at the flaws of the "touch screen" and memory card system. What turned me off was the overboard emotions and cheesy speeches from the women of the watchdog groups. 4 out of 6 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful TD 1852913 31% Similar To You TD 1852913's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I simply cannot believe this is true. I simply cannot believe the voting process is so secretive! I am still in High School and I could probably devise a system more secure than what every American trusts to count their votes! Every American owes it to themselves to watch this incredible docudrama of corporate greed, secrecy, corruption, and lies. Every American. 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AK 817970 29% Similar To You AK 817970's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I would have to agree with everyone else in stating this a must see film for everyone. I was shocked and surprised at how poorly designed the electronic voting system is. How corrupt the political voting process is. Without this video no one would have seen the voting process. Watch this film you won't regret it. 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful jes 881880 26% Similar To You jes 881880's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Eye opening. My question is, "Why haven't criminal investigations been started?!?" I agree with the majority of the comments saying we should all see this movie; i would add it's imperative we do something with what we know after watching it. Hold our representitives accountable!!! 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful KS 608754 24% Similar To You KS 608754's other reviews > 5.0 Stars If this doesn't make people realize that we need to change how our elections are held, nothing will! Republicans and Democrats should be concerned...ALL AMERICANS should be concerned and angry. If any politician does not want to fix this system, that politician needs to leave their office. 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PD 253868 22% Similar To You PD 253868's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I believe every citizen of voting age in the United States should view this film because it is very informative on the computerized voting systems across the country. After all, if our votes don't count we have no democracy. Watch this fim and tell your family, friends and co-workers to do the same! 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful xpf 1252893 12% Similar To You xpf 1252893's other reviews > 4.0 Stars The content is compelling and if even half of it is true, our democracy is very troubled. We need to demand truth and accuracy at the polls and we need to take action NOW! 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review DH 1154150 62% Similar To You DH 1154150's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Watch this movie. Tell your friends and family to watch this movie. The subjects are intelligent, articulate, and extremely courageous. This movie shows compelling evidence that makes me want to learn more about how easy it has been to alter the "results" of our government's elections, and ask what we can do to stop the fraud! 4 out of 7 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Yazheirx 57% Similar To You Yazheirx's other reviews > 2.0 Stars Like several other reviewers I wanted to like this movie but the spin and lack of solution suggestions prevented me. I agree with the need for more transparency with voting machines. I think we should have an open source voting program such that interest groups can spend their money to improve them. I still could not get past the spin. The final documentary cardinal sin for me is -

How many receipt-less voting machines are used nation-wide? Search:GEMS Diebold optical scan machines are being rigged for Bush Skull & Bones connection of Bush & Kerry: "Our Side (Race) won" Fraternity News (www.wikipedia.com_skull_and_bones) Poll Tapes thrown away - Against Federal Law (must be kept for 22 mos. by law) Hacking Democracy: Diebold (Voting Machine Software) Chairman 'promises' Vote for Ohio to G.W. Bush http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/114.html "Why weren't voting systems being tested for Security?" - I.T.A. Independent auditors of election software. Democracy: Can we trust systems that have no accountability? * With electronic voting machines tabulating more than 80 percent of the ballots cast in America, * Seattle grandmother Bev Harris set out to determine the obvious: Do they work? * Based on the evidence presented here, the answer is "not really" * The picture that emerges as Harris unearths a treasure trove of info about mishandled votes and the inner workings of the machines is that they're not only fallible but also highly vulnerable to hacking. http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/114.html * This wonderful documentary proves my point that we have the best democracy that money can buy * along with our judicial system. * This film is more frightening than any horror film I've seen, because THIS IS REAL! * And this is movie biased? * Not at all. * It's an absolute eye opener that shows that your vote really doesn't count; and make sure you watch the deleted scenes(another 33 minutes of fantastic footage). Mainstream News Reports Black Box Voting » Latest News » Mainstream News Reports « Previous Next » Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post Dean Logan Says Unaffiliated WriteIns will be Checkedchristine c reid14 1 2-15-08 10:34 am New York Times re Holt BillV. Kurt Bellman26 1 2-8-08 1:57 pm AP Incorrectly calls Missouri for ClintonBill Bowen1 1 2-7-08 8:04 am San Fran CA-KSFO-AM reports Repub registration problemsNancy Tobi9 1 2-7-08 5:49 am Massachusetts results via your friends at LHSMike LaBonte10 1 2-7-08 5:24 am NJ Voting delay included Gov. 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Kurt Bellman10 1 1-18-08 7:05 am (CO) Legislators lose their confidence in CoffmanCatherine Ansbro13 1 1-17-08 4:01 pm Olbermann Report !! On Voting Sue West6 1 1-17-08 3:53 pm GOP Figure Contracted to Deliver E-Voting Machines in MarylandAlex Laflamme1 1 1-17-08 9:43 am (NH) Experts skeptical of N.H. ballot-count conspiracy theoryBill Bowen60 1 1-16-08 10:37 pm Making votes countFran Fleming2 1 1-16-08 12:00 pm Ron Paul says in regard to New Hampshire voteDavid Evans1 1 1-13-08 8:32 am Diebold Changing its Buisness name Catherine Ansbro2 1 1-12-08 5:20 am (NH) 1/08 - Man plans recount of Republican vote in N.H. primary...Russell Novkov7 1 1-11-08 11:03 pm (TX) 10/07 - Another corrupt official, election tampering Refugio County - "Trust Me" failureCatherine Ansbro4 1 1-11-08 6:47 pm (FL) 9/07 - Volusia County again -- lots of defective memory cards... 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State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of InformationBev Harris 1 1 11-21-07 10:38 am (MI) 11/07 - Michigan primary may not happen State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of Information Bev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:22 pm (NH) 11/07 - Pres primary date STILL not certain State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:06 pm (OH) 11/07 - Provisionals may alter outcome Clermont County: Provisional ballotsBev Harris 1 1 11-19-07 5:54 pm (TX) 11/07 - Alteration of live election data in Harris County... Harris County: Voting systems, "Trust Me"Russell Novkov12 1 11-15-07 9:18 pm (US) 11/07 - Sequoia voting systems under new ownership US - VendorsBev Harris 1 1 11-9-07 6:39 am (OH) 11/07 - Polls open later in ES&S location Putnam County - Voting Machines: Incident ReportsPatricia Berg1 1 11-7-07 4:34 am (FL) 10/07 - Appeals court rules The People "moot" Sarasota County - LitigationBev Harris 1 1 11-2-07 8:02 am (CT) 10/07 - Candidate's company will transport voting machines... New Britain - Chain of CustodyBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 11:22 am (IN) 10/07 - Polling locations reduced to four "vote centers"... Tippecanoe County - Access to PollsBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 8:12 am (FL) 10/07 - Wrong Ballots Sent To Miami Absentee Voters Miami-Dade County - Absentee / Mail-in Incident ReportBrant Lamb13 1 10-22-07 11:34 am (PA) 10/07 - County replacing WinVote Lackawanna County - Voting systems: Procurement Alan Brau43 1 10-18-07 7:56 pm (US) 9/07 - E-vote industry massaging itself in the media Voting systems: Security / Chain of CustodyBev Harris 52 1 10-14-07 11:07 am (OH) 10/07 - A funeral for a presidential election State of Ohio - Compliance, enforcement issuesAlan Brau3 1 10-11-07 4:32 pm (FL) 10/07 - Peculiar excuses block accountability for primary Martin County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-11-07 7:12 am (TX) 9/07 - Hilarious but improper: video of lawmakers cheat-voting... 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US - Computer program: Incident reportBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:38 pm (NC) 9/07 - The registrar's secret lair Montgomery County - Chain of custodyBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 4:12 pm (NJ) 9/07 - Judge stalls on paper trail Mercer County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 3:46 pm (US) 9/07 - Less than 1/2 of military overseas votes counted US - Absentee / mail-in voting: Incidents, access problemsBev Harris 6 1 9-30-07 3:17 pm (GA) 9/07 - What's the punishment for throwing out 93,000 voter reg... Fulton County - Chain of custody / Privacy protection issuesBev Harris 1 1 9-28-07 9:12 am (US) 9/07 - Gird for massive new voting machine purchases: New stan... US - Voting systems: Standards, certification, procurementBrant Lamb16 1 9-27-07 5:02 am (PA) 9/07 County Commissioners' Assocation Opposes HR811 State of Pennsylvania - LegislationSamuel Scharff32 1 9-24-07 11:29 pm (CT) 9/07 - Voting rights activists express disappointment at CT s... State of Connecticut - Voting systems: Security Catherine Ansbro2 1 9-22-07 6:36 pm (NV) 9/07 - County to "prove Sequioa machines are secure"... Washoe County - Voting systems: SecurityBev Harris 1 1 9-22-07 9:43 am (IL) 9/07 - Indictment: Teamster Union vote rigging Teamster's Union [Chicago] - "Trust Me" failureBev Harris 1 1 9-8-07 4:48 pm (US) 2007 National news archive (see state foru... 130 24 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2006 National news archive (see state foru... 482 60 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2005 National news archive (see state foru... 310 152 10-11-07 12:24 pm (US) 2004 National news archive (see state forums for state news)... 77 42 10-11-07 12:24 pm Start New Thread http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/1954.html Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post 2-5-08: What to watch for -- and do -- during & after Super Power T...allenfly15 1 2-12-08 12:32 am 1-29-08: Citizen's Guide to Following Vote Transport VehiclesJoel Morine31 1 2-10-08 7:18 am 1-29-08: Questions unfolding throughout New HampshireB Lindsey57 1 2-12-08 5:53 pm 1-24-08: Now posting - New Hampshire video evidenceNancy Tobi47 1 1-31-08 6:59 am 1-20-08: Holes hidden in plain sightCatherine Ansbro77 1 1-27-08 11:24 am 1-17-08: Ballot boxes found slit; NH stops putting ballots in vault; christine c reid264 1 2-13-08 8:21 pm 1-16-08: How New Hampshire is sizing upBrant Lamb172 1 2-4-08 4:39 am 1-15-08: Can recount chain of custody be rescued?Michael W Mather29 1 1-17-08 9:02 pm 1-12-08: Red Flags over New HampshireBrant Lamb153 1 1-22-08 4:41 am 1-10-08: Kucinich stepping into trap with recount?Catherine Ansbro138 1 1-15-08 12:56 pm 1-9-08: New England voting machine firm has executive criminal recordrush40 1 1-17-08 8:37 am 1-7-08: Silvestro the Cat & New Hampshire ElectionsBrett Woodward161 1 1-14-08 11:36 am 1-4-08: Eh? Iowa Republicans STILL missing 65 precincts in resultsJoel Morine41 1 1-9-08 4:04 am 1-3-08: What to do! Iowa Caucus instructions for everyoneChism Haworth26 1 1-4-08 3:09 pm 12-30-07: New problems identified with Iowa caucuses!David Luebbers48 1 1-13-08 4:16 am 12-14-07: UPDATE on Iowa Caucus ProceduresBev Harris 14 1 1-1-08 7:21 pm 11-29-07: MOONSHINE AMERICA – Collapse of the "Trust Me" modelJohn Dean15 1 1-13-08 1:06 pm 11-12-07: Unauthorized vote alterations on Texas iVotronic voting m...Bev Harris 8 1 11-16-07 4:06 pm 10-4-07: Connecticut Mayoral Scuffle Bev Harris 8 1 10-11-07 2:40 pm 9-19-07: Moonshine Elections 2 - Family Run GovermentJim March3 1 9-26-07 12:54 am 9-6-07: Moonshine Elections - The Hunt for Joe BoltonCatherine Ansbro15 1 9-14-07 9:36 pm 8-14-07: Moonshine Elections - Kentucky seriesBev Harris 4 1 9-14-07 7:38 am 8-3-07: California Decertifies, Boots InkaVote out of L.A. for goodBev Harris 15 1 8-6-07 1:31 pm 7-30-07: An Open Letter to Calif. Secretary of State BowenMark E. Smith18 1 8-7-07 9:33 am 7-17-07: HBO film on secret vote counting gets Emmy nominationRussell Novkov2 1 7-17-07 8:12 pm 7-13-07: Riverside proud to be dropped from "Top 2 Worst Places to ...Bev Harris 1 1 7-13-07 12:20 pm 7-12-07: California court may punish county for election records de...Russell Novkov2 1 7-12-07 9:04 pm 7-5-07: Debate w. a Chair #3: Will new elections "audits" help or h...Brant Lamb187 1 8-2-07 4:24 am 7-2-07: A preview on the audit debateV. Kurt Bellman62 1 7-7-07 1:39 pm 6-29-07: Debate with a Chair #2: Is no bill worse than a flawed bill?Udar Koschka35 2 7-21-07 6:04 am 6-28-07: Debate with a Chair (Part 1)Catherine Ansbro33 1 10-14-07 9:56 am 6-25-07: New Hampshire Sec. State rebukes attack on NH campaign fin...Bruce Sims12 1 6-27-07 10:39 am 6-10-07: Kucinich abandons support; for Holt Bill HR 811Catherine Ansbro13 1 6-24-07 2:30 am 5-30-07: (Calif.) The Voting Rights Obstacle Course - And the winne...Tom Courbat12 1 6-2-07 11:25 am 5-17-07: You have 2 weeks to restore your inalienable right to kic...Brant Lamb42 1 6-5-07 5:12 am 5-11-07: Uh-Oh -- HAMMERTIME! John C. Ervin12 1 6-14-07 2:54 am 5-8-07: U.S. Experiment Ready to Sail (Holt Bill out of committee)...Brant Lamb4 1 5-11-07 12:28 pm 4-9-07: Two voting products combine to steal your political privacyJohn Washburn23 1 4-26-07 2:13 pm 3-27-07 - Elections give you: The judge, the prosecutor and the she...Bev Harris 49 1 6-7-07 6:32 am 3-14-07: Riverside Rides Again ...Bev Harris 7 1 4-9-07 8:13 pm 3-9-07: The Black Box Voting Web site is changingVickie Karp16 1 3-21-07 6:03 am 2-20-07: Voting machines as a Ponzi SchemeBev Harris 77 1 3-16-07 3:48 pm 2-14-07: America's Funny Valentine - What is this romance with mach...Troy Seman2 1 2-15-07 12:14 pm 2-13-07: Agreement among groups as to Essential Revisions to HR 811Bob Roberts15 2 3-2-07 9:44 pm 2-8-07: Beware of the Bandwagon -- A concise list of problems with ...John C. Ervin12 1 2-14-07 5:48 pm 2-7-07: The Vu Memos - Cuyahoga Elections Director conversations wi...Catherine Ansbro5 1 2-8-07 2:01 pm 2-7-07: Son of Holt Bill: TechnoElection Dream Come True (But is it...Catherine Ansbro22 1 2-10-07 6:14 pm 2-6-07: New Rush Holt Bill Bev Harris4 1 2-6-07 10:42 am 2-5-07: Convicted Ohio elections workers ask for new trialKathleen Wynne6 1 2-6-07 7:38 am 2-1-07: Arizona computer logs show cheat-peeks at results, days bef...Gentry Lange4 1 3-16-07 8:43 am 1-30-07: HAVA -- The road to Boondoggle was paved with good intenti...Brant Lamb18 1 2-5-07 5:13 am 1-24-07: Two Ohio election workers found guilty; supervisors get of...Brant Lamb19 1 1-31-07 7:40 am 1-22-07: Diebold voting machines cost $2,000 more (each) in New Ham...Bev Harris4 1 1-29-07 9:09 am 1-20-07: Reports from the front lines - Kathleen Wynne video 'Best ...Kathleen Wynne7 1 1-21-07 3:39 pm 1-9-07: Vendor issues raised in Ohio, New HampshireBev Harris3 1 1-10-07 2:55 pm 12-30-06: Sign the REQUEST BY VOTERS --- Dear American Patriot, Samuel Scharff21 1 1-12-07 1:44 pm 12-22-06: Let's get down to the root of the problem: Freedom of Acc...Bev Harris1 1 12-22-06 3:23 pm 12-5-06: Government rejects NIST recommendations for paper trailCatherine Ansbro25 1 12-9-06 1:32 pm 11-22-06: ES&S serves up a Texas Turkey - Voting system stuffed wit...Greg Bodovsky15 1 12-13-06 7:43 pm 11-21-06: ES&S problem hit 34 counties in TexasBrant Lamb7 1 2-15-07 5:50 am 11-20-06: Black Box Voting receives new legal threats from ES&SJeffrey Ortiz21 1 12-13-06 7:34 pm 11-14-06: Arizona manual audit a farceDan Oetting9 1 11-18-06 2:39 pm 11-13-06: Sarasota! Florida! Never doubt that a small group of comm...Pat Vesely19 1 11-22-06 11:26 pm 11-13-06: Yes, the files on Slashdot are legit.Bev Harris23 1 11-27-06 6:48 am 11-9-06: A quick update on doingsBob Dean15 2 11-14-06 6:08 am 11-8-06: Rumsfeld replacement (Robert Gates) was director of voting...Bev Harris 93 2 1-6-08 8:49 am 11-8-06: The Sarasota Anomaly: Some say this is a smoking gun:Catherine Ansbro18 1 11-19-06 3:11 am 11-8-06: Black Box Voting to help citizens audit VIRGINIARoberta McKnight19 1 11-10-06 5:36 pm 11-7-06: What to expect -- and look for -- in the 2006 electionJanine L. Busald8 1 11-9-06 1:09 am 11-6-06: Ohio professor facing retaliatory (criminal) charges for a...Catherine Ansbro10 1 11-14-06 6:07 am 11-2-06: HBO "Hacking Democracy" to air tonight -- REVIEWSChipman Budlong71 7 11-11-06 12:23 pm 10-31-06: Reports from the front lines -- Citizens find critical se...suzanne warden15 1 11-6-06 7:10 am 10-27-06: Absentee voting is NOT advisable; Problems, things you sh...Gentry Lange17 2 3-16-07 8:54 am 10-15-06: Now we're getting somewhere -- Congressional hand counted...k.c.10 1 11-3-06 6:11 pm 10-6-06: 'The sheer number of legal/security violations is horrifyi...Jim March2 1 10-9-06 10:48 am 10-1-06: One on One with Cynthia McKinney -- Evidence, procedural p...Bev Harris7 1 10-10-06 9:56 am 9-27-06: Riverside California - One of the "Top 2" WORST PLACES TO ...Ginny Ross7 1 9-28-06 6:55 am 9-25-06: One-on-One - Allegan County Michigan citizens uncover issuesCatherine Ansbro7 1 9-27-06 2:52 pm 9-13-06: Paper Ballots Gaining Momentum - Court Decision, New Guide...John Heath5 1 10-2-06 5:55 pm 9-12-06: Election problems in the Sept. 12 primariesBev Harris1 1 9-12-06 12:12 pm 8-31-06: Stoopidest Sleepover Security Ever: Black Box Voting blows...V. Kurt Bellman19 1 9-20-06 12:00 pm 8-28-06: One-on-One -- Witness to vote-flipping: What should I do?Brian S16 2 11-7-06 4:49 pm 8-14-06: One on One Advice Comes Alive: How to stage an eventLinda Franz2 1 8-14-06 9:08 pm 8-11-06: One-on-One Advice Comes Alive Brant Lamb12 1 8-15-06 4:26 am 8-1-06: NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOUR 2 CENTS: Citizen Tool Kit to Take ...Dan Oetting73 2 8-26-06 5:42 pm 7-31-06: Georgia, Maryland Touch-screens -- New security defect evi...Jim March19 1 8-2-06 12:39 pm 7-27-06: Expensive, Insecure, Illegal, Unqualified and UnauditedRon Hammar12 2 8-26-06 4:32 pm 7-21-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Cuyahoga B.o.E. members call for Director ...John Washburn26 1 8-5-06 10:40 am 7-18-06: Georgia Election Malfunctions - Gird yourself for action, ...Brant Lamb24 1 9-5-06 4:46 am 7-17-06: The World's Quietest News Story: Kennedy Files Voting Mach...Linda Rogers4 1 7-29-06 9:07 am 7-10-06: Kentucky litigation - 'When computers fear jail, they'll b...Jenny L. Hurley6 1 7-12-06 8:37 am 07-08-06: Citizen Oversight - Pay Special Attention to Missing ItemsJody Holder19 1 7-12-06 4:20 pm 7-04-06: Black Box Voting's Declaration of IndependenceBev Harris19 1 7-15-06 1:40 pm Fourth of July Fireworks: Unredacted Hursti reports, photos releasedBrant Lamb44 1 7-12-06 5:20 am 6-27-06: Whatever happens in Utah elections - Capture on camera, audioV. Kurt Bellman11 1 6-29-06 10:44 am 6-26-06: The ultimate insult: Paper ballots entered into touch-screensTom Courbat16 1 6-28-06 1:42 pm 6-22-06: A 'Plan B' for voting machines: The National Hand Count Re...Bev Harris7 1 6-24-06 11:43 am 6-15-06: Solutions through citizen oversightBrant Lamb52 1 7-25-06 7:19 pm 6-12-06: Trouble seeks trouble - King County elections chief goes t...Tom Courbat8 1 6-21-06 6:08 pm 6-6-06: Hear the train a'comin' , Comin' round the bendBrant Lamb12 1 6-9-06 10:14 am 6-5-06: Citizens -- Here's how to watchdog electionBev Harris13 1 6-6-06 12:37 pm 5-23-06: Supplmental report adds new concerns to Hursti IIBev Harris51 1 7-1-06 10:49 am 5-19-06: Substitute 'L' for 'D' - Diebold claims Utah tests failed...Kathleen Wynne16 1 6-27-06 6:26 am 5-11-06: Three-level security flaws found in Diebold touch-screensRobert Sawdey182 1 6-7-06 11:52 am 5-10-06: Update on TSx reportCatherine Ansbro5 1 5-11-06 4:47 pm 5-10-06: As the Emery County findings evolve: Diebold's and Georgia...Joseph Hall5 1 5-11-06 2:15 pm 5-9-06: The Ohio Election BackwashAdele Eisner34 1 8-2-06 3:26 pm 5-4-06: Touch-screens fail security tests, Diebold retaliatessuhkara a yahweh`16 1 5-9-06 9:15 pm 5-4-06: Your chance to get evidence: WV, NE, KY, OR, PABev Harris1 1 5-4-06 9:13 am 5-2-06: Is the 2006 election train still on its tracks?John Washburn26 1 5-12-06 3:29 pm 4-24-06: Diebold whistleblower Stephen Heller compared to Daniel El...Russell Novkov2 1 4-24-06 3:06 pm 4-13-06: Last transcript - Calif. ITA hearings.John Washburn3 1 4-14-06 9:20 am 4-8-06: Why the Rush Holt bill (H.B. 550) is dangerousJonathan104 1 5-16-06 2:46 am 4-6-06: Utah Lt. Governor's office admits: some Diebold serial numb...ed hill32 1 4-10-06 7:24 pm 4-5-06: Transcript: Wyle Labs thinks Hursti Hack means 'the system ...John Washburn11 1 4-6-06 7:59 am 4-4-06: More Voting Machine Test Lab TranscriptsBev Harris12 1 4-6-06 11:32 pm 4-3-06: ALERT - elections officials: Diebold making 'visits' to you...Bruce Sims5 1 4-4-06 11:08 am 3-31-06: Bravissima! Calif. Senate Elections Committee grills two ...Catherine Ansbro28 1 4-12-06 1:59 pm 3-29-06: FL Attorney General Hits Voting Machine Vendors With Inves...Bev Harris4 1 3-30-06 10:39 am 3-28-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold attempts to explain TSx memory def...Bev Harris34 1 4-3-06 9:17 am 03-18-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold TSx touch-screen study (Part I)...Joseph Hall50 1 4-7-06 10:29 am 3-17-2006: New Black Box Voting report to be issued on Diebold TSx ...Jody Holder11 1 3-19-06 11:34 pm 3-11-06: The Stephen Heller Legal Defense FundJohn Washburn6 1 3-12-06 8:23 pm 3-8-06: Ion Sancho pits his lawyers against DieboldPat Vesely10 1 3-14-06 2:02 pm 3-3-06: While Florida vindicates Ion Sancho, Jeb Bush threatens Sa...Daniel R Spak29 1 3-19-06 5:45 pm 2-28-06: Take action NOW: Bullies pounding on whistleblowerRobert Sawdey11 1 3-9-06 5:47 pm 2-23-06: Someone accessed 40 Palm Beach County voting machines Nov ...Bev Harris110 1 3-9-06 7:30 am 2-21-06: An open letter to Bruce McPherson and the citizens of the ...Joycelynn Straight22 1 2-27-06 9:01 pm 2-17-06: BREAKING: Calif. Sec. State certifies entire Diebold produ...Bev Harris52 1 4-3-06 10:20 am 2-17-06: Election family tree: Who got us into this and how did the...Catherine Ansbro4 1 3-30-06 10:40 am 2-11-06: Voting machine examiners chickening out on Senate investig...Ron Crane24 1 2-18-06 1:27 pm 2-6-06: Landes takes e-voting to Supreme CourtV. Kurt Bellman24 1 4-19-06 10:33 am 2-6-06: Diebold agrees to waive proprietary claims to GEMS database...Marian Beddill12 1 2-11-06 1:38 pm 2-5-06: What protects your personal information once it enters e-el...Paul Lehto70 1 7-21-06 1:17 pm 2-2-06: Embezzler Jeff Dean remote accessed Calif. counties for 200...Kathleen Wynne4 1 2-2-06 8:38 am 2-1-06: Voting system examiners blocked from telling what they know?Byron Hale21 1 2-6-06 3:16 am 1-31-06: Diebold anticipates $100 to $125 million in 2006 voting sy...Bev Harris1 1 1-31-06 8:56 am 1-26-06: Elections Programmer Jeff Dean worked for same firm as for...Bev Harris25 1 1-27-06 12:45 pm 1-24-06: Public Records Get The Big Chill: Alaska's Voters vs Diebo...Jim March5 1 1-31-06 2:29 pm 1-13-06: ES&S reneges on Leon County deal 2 days before HAVA deadl...Catherine Ansbro33 1 1-17-06 1:20 am 1-9-2006: DuPage County Elections paid $30,000 to Republican politi...Bev Harris12 1 2-3-06 8:20 am 1-5-06: Wisconsin moves toward public source, then guts itJohn Washburn10 1 1-5-06 4:21 pm 1-3-2006: Hold on to your lugnuts, ES&S and Sequoia may risk Hurst...Brant Lamb33 1 1-25-06 4:56 am 12-30-05: Roll up your sleeves, we ain't done yet!BBV Admin1 1 12-30-05 4:26 pm 12-28-2005: Pennsylvania declines some Diebold but reveals an odd biasArnold Peckerman24 1 12-31-05 2:17 pm 12-23-05: ES&S under fire in CaliforniaEdward Robles5 1 12-26-05 5:36 am 12-20-05: California 'Hack' test stalled as Diebold certification d...Brant Lamb116 1 1-25-06 1:27 pm 12-13-05: Devastating hack proven - Leon County dumps DieboldSamuel Scharff97 1 5-29-06 9:25 pm 12-9-05: Diebold hack test -- Sec. State / Black Box lawyer square offJim March6 1 12-12-05 3:01 pm 12-7-05: Diebold stockholder suit - here's some ammoJim March7 1 12-8-05 9:37 am 12-4-05: 'Leave it up to us, we know best' say officialsBBV Admin27 2 12-15-05 4:17 am 11-30-05: Nope, the hack test won't be todayCatherine Ansbro25 1 1-3-06 12:51 am 11-28-05: Latest on California hack situationBruce Sims45 1 11-30-05 4:40 pm 11-24-05: Turkey Day leftovers: No thanks for stuffing elections wi...Edward Robles2 1 11-27-05 7:55 am 11-23-05: Flag on the play - Calif. Sec. State official calls foul ...Catherine Ansbro17 1 11-29-05 10:18 am 11-22-05: California invites Black Box Voting to hack Diebold votin...John Washburn31 1 12-9-05 8:23 am 11-22-2005: Updates on felons - Jeffrey Dean and John ElderBBV Admin7 1 11-22-05 9:37 am 11-21-05: Diebold violates court orderBBV Admin10 1 11-28-05 8:27 am 11-18-05: Fasten your seatbelts - It's time to bring this thing in ...Edward Robles7 1 11-27-05 9:12 am 11-15-05: FEC Investigating rapper P. Diddy (but not Blackwell or M...Edward Robles5 1 11-27-05 9:16 am 11-13-05: Detroit, Michigan elections are now a significant concernBBV Admin11 1 11-23-05 5:16 am 11-9-05: Los Angeles County has the dog & pony show downEdward Robles2 1 11-27-05 9:33 am 11-8-05: Share your observations on voting today hereKathleen Wynne10 1 11-10-05 9:15 am 11-6-05: Two state elections heads resign in FloridaBBV Admin6 1 11-6-05 5:11 am 11-4-05: Mail-in votes at higher risk with Diebold systemsBBV Admin1 1 11-4-05 8:00 am 11-3-05: The first public examination under the 15004 lawJohn Washburn5 1 11-6-05 6:41 am 10-28-05: Blackwell Blunders on Voting Machine ExaminationJohn Washburn14 1 10-31-05 11:23 am 10-26-05: The 'Perimeter Defense' - Follies and FailuresBBV Admin7 1 10-31-05 3:57 pm 10-21-05: GAO & NIST - Voting machine security finally goes mainstr...From the Mailbag10 1 10-29-05 11:39 am 10-9-05: VotoScope audit tool will catch Hart Intercivic bugBev Harris22 1 10-12-05 1:06 pm 10-8-05: Investors considering Diebold class action suitBev Harris1 1 10-8-05 3:08 pm 10-5-05: Diebold Lies Move Up the LadderBev Harris5 1 10-8-05 3:21 pm 9-19-2005: Carter-Baker Panel Report: Proposed Reforms Miss the BoatBrad Friedman52 1 10-3-05 12:02 pm 9-10-2005: Here's your chance to 'Look inside the Black Box':...alex baxter21 1 11-1-05 4:23 am 9-7-2005: Digital Image ballot scanners -- good or bad?Brant Lamb19 1 10-5-05 4:41 am 8-25-2005: Voting Rights Act expiration 2007Admin3 1 8-25-05 9:56 am 8-15-05: Election Reform -- Impending ShuffleCatherine_a107 1 8-25-05 1:51 pm 8-13-2005: If this doesn't get your blood boiling...Ubetchaiam9 1 8-15-05 11:24 am 8-10-2005: Mississippi Paper Trail ImminentCatherine Ansbro18 1 12-14-05 2:47 am 8-9-2005: Exactly what we don't want: Our election on Diebold's ser...John Howard13 1 10-5-05 8:20 pm 8-8-2005: Arcata, (CA) seeks to wrest election control from corpora...jimmarch6 1 8-12-05 12:33 am 8-5-05: 'Think Outside the Black Box' - ONLINE THINK TANK Admin5 1 8-17-05 7:46 am 8-3-05: San Diego backs down on charges against BBV director Jim MarchUbetchaiam32 1 8-22-05 12:01 pm 7-29-2005: Mississippi, listen up: California just rejected the TSxadmin17 1 8-13-05 8:15 pm 7-28-05: In his own words: Jim March on taking back his civil rightsmymarkx11 1 7-29-05 11:46 am 7-26-2005: BBV Board Member Arrested in San Diego for Viewing Vote-...cleanbean63 1 7-29-05 4:17 pm 7-25-2005: Wondering about mail-in voting? Diebold's new VoteRemote...Catherine Ansbro28 1 3-30-06 12:43 pm 7-21-2005: ES&S, Diebold lobbyists had ties to bribery investigatio...mary_ann9 1 7-31-05 12:00 am 7-20-2005: Internal documents reveal more Diebold ethics problemsadmin4 1 7-20-05 7:24 am 7-18-2005: Are The Lights Going Out In Georgia?admin5 1 7-22-05 3:14 pm 7-17-2005: Gallina (Diebold) reportedly paid Blackwell, GOP cronies...admin1 1 7-17-05 12:07 pm 7-11-2005: Case Against Diebold and Florida Division of Electionskathleen_wynne3 1 7-13-05 9:32 am 7-4-2005: The Black Box ReportJohn Dean36 1 5-8-06 6:05 pm 7-3-2005: Diebold accounting mistake -- SEC stuff may be a biggieadmin11 1 7-4-05 10:58 pm 7-1-2005: July 4 Security Alert for Diebold Optical Scanscatherine_a17 1 7-5-05 1:29 am 6-24-2005: Black Box Voting Litigation Fund LaunchedBev Harris2 1 2-3-06 8:22 am 6-17-05: Report on Calif. meeting -- Decertify Diebold?ubetchaiam11 1 7-21-05 2:37 pm 6-8-2005: Palm Beach County fails auditlinda_franz7 1 6-15-05 8:29 am 5-27-05: Optical scan system hacked (3 ways) - BBV ExclusiveBrant Lamb73 1 8-9-06 11:06 am 5-9-05: Consumer Report Series -- Following the Money Trail – Part Iadmin1 1 5-9-05 3:18 pm 5-6-04: $45m (Diebold?) contract flying under radar in Cook County ...admin2 1 5-6-05 2:53 pm 5-11-05: CANCELLED - Call to action May 19, Sacramentoadmin1 1 5-6-05 11:05 am 5-04-05 – Easier Hacking Access Sneaks in w. ADA Compliance Measuresadmin1 1 5-4-05 9:25 pm 4-24-05: LA's InkaVote system tied to Malaysian gambling outfitadmin1 1 4-24-05 12:43 pm 4-20-2005: Paper trail advocates - The devil in the detailsadmin1 1 4-20-05 11:54 am 4-18-2005: Diebold Lobbyist Documents Reveal Problemsadmin1 1 4-18-05 9:54 am 3-8-2005: Hack of Real-Life Voting System Demonstratedadmin1 1 3-9-05 12:51 pm 2-22-2005: Activating the Eagles -- Events this weekend in Californiaadmin1 1 2-22-05 5:08 pm 2-21-2005: Snohomish County (WA) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 4:51 pm 2-21-2005: Orange County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:57 pm 2-21-2005: Broward County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:14 pm 2-21-2005: Palm Beach County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 11:04 am 2-21-2005: Volusia County (FL) Updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 7:02 am 2-1-2005: Black Box Voting donates $2000 to Ohio lawyersadmin1 1 2-1-05 2:51 pm 1-28-05: Eagles rolling up sleeves in Ohio, Florida, Californiaadmin1 1 1-28-05 6:30 am 1-20-05: BULLETIN: California Panel OKs Voter Privacy Removaladmin1 1 1-20-05 6:05 pm 1-18-05: Consumer Protection lawsuit activated against Dieboldadmin1 1 1-19-05 4:43 am 1-17-05: Black Box Voting Document Archiveadmin1 1 1-17-05 1:42 pm 1-10-05: Exposing the Crypto Solutionadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:20 am 1-6-05: Constitutional Equal Protection Amendment for Voters?admin1 1 1-11-05 6:15 am 1-5-05: Election Misconduct as a Public Records Crisisadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:10 am 1-5-05: Update from Washington D.C.admin1 1 1-11-05 6:01 am 12-30-2004: Volunteer Actions -- Activating the Eaglesadmin1 1 1-11-05 5:50 am 12-29-04: Update on 'Help America Audit'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:44 am 12-28-04: Update for donors, and a look to 2005admin1 1 1-11-05 5:35 am 11-18-2004: Volunteer actions -- How to 'Be the Media'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:56 am Start New Thread Mainstream News Reports Black Box Voting » Latest News » Mainstream News Reports « Previous Next » Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post Dean Logan Says Unaffiliated WriteIns will be Checkedchristine c reid14 1 2-15-08 10:34 am New York Times re Holt BillV. Kurt Bellman26 1 2-8-08 1:57 pm AP Incorrectly calls Missouri for ClintonBill Bowen1 1 2-7-08 8:04 am San Fran CA-KSFO-AM reports Repub registration problemsNancy Tobi9 1 2-7-08 5:49 am Massachusetts results via your friends at LHSMike LaBonte10 1 2-7-08 5:24 am NJ Voting delay included Gov. CorzineMichael W Mather2 1 2-6-08 1:17 pm (CA) 2/08 - Voting machine probs delay Sacramento countPerry Duke9 1 2-5-08 6:34 pm (FL) 1/08 - More Florida voting machine problemsHal Guentert8 1 2-2-08 7:19 pm (FL) 1/08 - Final Florida results inkaren reineke11 1 2-1-08 4:25 pm (CO) 1/15 Democrats Ask Coffman to ResignFran Fleming1 1 2-1-08 9:41 am (FL) 1/08 - Problems already with voting machinesBev Harris 1 1 1-29-08 10:08 am (CO) Paper ballots win over RitterCatherine Ansbro3 1 1-29-08 2:16 am (MI) 12/07 - Proposition for new way to do primaries NEWS: Reform pres. candidate selection processCatherine Ansbro11 1 1-29-08 2:14 am Americans Abroad Can Now Vote Onlinesam lark7 1 1-26-08 3:49 pm (SC) 1/19/08 - Problems at polling locationsts taylor4 1 1-24-08 9:16 pm Feedback appreciated as this unfolds...Bruce Sims2 1 1-24-08 1:52 pm (Ohio) ACLU files suit to block paper ballots New paper ballots ca...Roger Wood20 2 1-20-08 9:43 pm REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER: Election Fraud RoundtableV. Kurt Bellman10 1 1-18-08 7:05 am (CO) Legislators lose their confidence in CoffmanCatherine Ansbro13 1 1-17-08 4:01 pm Olbermann Report !! On Voting Sue West6 1 1-17-08 3:53 pm GOP Figure Contracted to Deliver E-Voting Machines in MarylandAlex Laflamme1 1 1-17-08 9:43 am (NH) Experts skeptical of N.H. ballot-count conspiracy theoryBill Bowen60 1 1-16-08 10:37 pm Making votes countFran Fleming2 1 1-16-08 12:00 pm Ron Paul says in regard to New Hampshire voteDavid Evans1 1 1-13-08 8:32 am Diebold Changing its Buisness name Catherine Ansbro2 1 1-12-08 5:20 am (NH) 1/08 - Man plans recount of Republican vote in N.H. primary...Russell Novkov7 1 1-11-08 11:03 pm (TX) 10/07 - Another corrupt official, election tampering Refugio County - "Trust Me" failureCatherine Ansbro4 1 1-11-08 6:47 pm (FL) 9/07 - Volusia County again -- lots of defective memory cards... Volusia County - Voting system: Incident reportsWilliam Reese2 1 1-8-08 9:19 pm (FL) 10/07 - New machines, still not enough safeguards State of Florida - Voting systems: Transition to optical scan, issuesDon Powers2 1 1-8-08 12:00 am PC Magazine Article 09/12/07Don Powers2 1 1-7-08 10:45 pm (US) Can You Count On These Machines?Bev Harris 21 1 1-7-08 6:18 pm (US) Problems At Poll Permeate U.S. Political ProcessV. Kurt Bellman76 1 1-5-08 4:57 pm Legal Voters Thrown Off RollsV. Kurt Bellman7 1 1-3-08 11:15 am CNN: On the eve of Iowa caucus, some states give e-voting an 'F'...Russell Novkov2 1 1-2-08 3:42 pm (TX) 11/07 - Wharton County GOP will use paper ballots in primary... NEWS: Follow up on vote-flipping incidentLore2 1 1-1-08 3:35 pm (KY) 10/7 - Candidate for elections chief pleads guilty to forgery... Boone County - "Trust Me" FailureKathleen Wynne49 1 12-26-07 2:49 pm (US) 12/07 - FEC doors shut, 'No one left to answer phones'...Alan Brau4 1 12-25-07 8:29 pm (CO) 12/07 - Boulder: Stray marks caused decertificationBev Harris 1 1 12-23-07 9:49 pm (CO) 12/07 - Mesa: Commission defiant on vote machines NEWS: Resisting Colorado decertificationFran Fleming5 1 12-22-07 1:34 pm (AK) 12/07 - Impossible to tell whether 2004 count correct NEWS - Follow up on AZ Dem Party litigationBev Harris 1 1 12-21-07 7:05 am (CO) 12/07 - Denver: Voting gear out for count NEWS: Colo. decertification of Sequoia Julio Edwards1 1 12-18-07 6:41 am (US) 12/07 - Congressional watch tool for citizens PRESS RELEASE: New Freedom of Information toolBev Harris 1 1 12-11-07 7:20 am (PA) 11/07 - Philadelphia: Voter Fraud Allegations Again NEWS: Absentee ballot fraud allegationsV. Kurt Bellman21 1 12-7-07 2:02 pm (NJ) 12/07 - 'We are Neanderthals' - paper trail delayed again... NEWS: New Jersey paper trail statusBobby Arnold2 1 12-6-07 3:20 am (OH) 11/07 - Franklin County: Former elections official charged... NEWS: Election official corruptionBev Harris 2 1 12-2-07 7:50 am (OH) 11/07 - Township results flipped because of error (Lawrence Co... Lawrence County: Voting systems - Incident ReportBev Harris 4 1 11-23-07 2:00 pm (CT) 11/07 - Diebold/Premier machine miscount changes winner Greenwich: Voting systems - Incident reportsCatherine Ansbro4 1 11-23-07 1:47 pm (MS) 11/07 - New election ordered for Louise Linzy race Tunica County: Election incidentsBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 9:05 pm (NH) 11/07 - It's official: Jan. 8 primary date State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 8:28 pm (CA) 11/07 - Sec. State Bowen sues ES&S for $15 million State of California: Voting systems, ES&SBev Harris 3 1 11-21-07 9:09 pm (MI) 11/07 - It's back on: Mich. primary will proceed... State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of InformationBev Harris 1 1 11-21-07 10:38 am (MI) 11/07 - Michigan primary may not happen State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of Information Bev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:22 pm (NH) 11/07 - Pres primary date STILL not certain State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:06 pm (OH) 11/07 - Provisionals may alter outcome Clermont County: Provisional ballotsBev Harris 1 1 11-19-07 5:54 pm (TX) 11/07 - Alteration of live election data in Harris County... Harris County: Voting systems, "Trust Me"Russell Novkov12 1 11-15-07 9:18 pm (US) 11/07 - Sequoia voting systems under new ownership US - VendorsBev Harris 1 1 11-9-07 6:39 am (OH) 11/07 - Polls open later in ES&S location Putnam County - Voting Machines: Incident ReportsPatricia Berg1 1 11-7-07 4:34 am (FL) 10/07 - Appeals court rules The People "moot" Sarasota County - LitigationBev Harris 1 1 11-2-07 8:02 am (CT) 10/07 - Candidate's company will transport voting machines... New Britain - Chain of CustodyBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 11:22 am (IN) 10/07 - Polling locations reduced to four "vote centers"... Tippecanoe County - Access to PollsBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 8:12 am (FL) 10/07 - Wrong Ballots Sent To Miami Absentee Voters Miami-Dade County - Absentee / Mail-in Incident ReportBrant Lamb13 1 10-22-07 11:34 am (PA) 10/07 - County replacing WinVote Lackawanna County - Voting systems: Procurement Alan Brau43 1 10-18-07 7:56 pm (US) 9/07 - E-vote industry massaging itself in the media Voting systems: Security / Chain of CustodyBev Harris 52 1 10-14-07 11:07 am (OH) 10/07 - A funeral for a presidential election State of Ohio - Compliance, enforcement issuesAlan Brau3 1 10-11-07 4:32 pm (FL) 10/07 - Peculiar excuses block accountability for primary Martin County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-11-07 7:12 am (TX) 9/07 - Hilarious but improper: video of lawmakers cheat-voting... State of Texas - Noncompliance, enforcement issues with legislator voting rulesBrant Lamb11 1 10-3-07 5:06 am (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 testing continues... Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsRussell Novkov2 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (IN) 10/07 - Belly-up vendor, in come different machines Randolph County - Voting systems: ProcurementBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 report imminent Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:46 pm (US) 9/07 - If MS Excel bug = math errors, trust e-voting? US - Computer program: Incident reportBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:38 pm (NC) 9/07 - The registrar's secret lair Montgomery County - Chain of custodyBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 4:12 pm (NJ) 9/07 - Judge stalls on paper trail Mercer County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 3:46 pm (US) 9/07 - Less than 1/2 of military overseas votes counted US - Absentee / mail-in voting: Incidents, access problemsBev Harris 6 1 9-30-07 3:17 pm (GA) 9/07 - What's the punishment for throwing out 93,000 voter reg... Fulton County - Chain of custody / Privacy protection issuesBev Harris 1 1 9-28-07 9:12 am (US) 9/07 - Gird for massive new voting machine purchases: New stan... US - Voting systems: Standards, certification, procurementBrant Lamb16 1 9-27-07 5:02 am (PA) 9/07 County Commissioners' Assocation Opposes HR811 State of Pennsylvania - LegislationSamuel Scharff32 1 9-24-07 11:29 pm (CT) 9/07 - Voting rights activists express disappointment at CT s... State of Connecticut - Voting systems: Security Catherine Ansbro2 1 9-22-07 6:36 pm (NV) 9/07 - County to "prove Sequioa machines are secure"... Washoe County - Voting systems: SecurityBev Harris 1 1 9-22-07 9:43 am (IL) 9/07 - Indictment: Teamster Union vote rigging Teamster's Union [Chicago] - "Trust Me" failureBev Harris 1 1 9-8-07 4:48 pm (US) 2007 National news archive (see state foru... 130 24 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2006 National news archive (see state foru... 482 60 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2005 National news archive (see state foru... 310 152 10-11-07 12:24 pm (US) 2004 National news archive (see state forums for state news)... 77 42 10-11-07 12:24 pm Start New Thread 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review Reviews Voted Most Helpful Votes are counted and displayed within 24 hours HM 1355196 37% Similar To You HM 1355196's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is an excellent documentary that I think every American should see before they vote again. This is not a movie about Bush vs. Kerry or Republicans vs. Democrats. Its about our current voting system and exposing a multitude of problems with that system as demonstrated in the 2004 election. We are told "EVERY VOTE COUNTS" and this documentary exposes the corruption, mistruths, and shameful negligence and mishandling of these "VOTES" in a way that cannot be denied nor ignored - unless you don't watch it for yourself. 73 out of 78 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful TerBo 40% Similar To You TerBo's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is a must-see documentary, especially for those still doubtful about whether elections in this country can be tampered with. The answer is yes, yes, yes!!! Kudos to Bev Harris who has dedicated years to exposing the corruption surrounding electronic voting. Get this. After Hacking Democracy's premiere on HBO, Harris received death threats. That's how risky and powerful her work is. 67 out of 77 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Shiftdnb 47% Similar To You Shiftdnb's other reviews > 4.0 Stars This is an amazing documentary showing that there are problems with the way we vote in America. When a normal everyday citizen gets up and challenges the system, you see how the system fights back. This woman doesn't give up like most of us would and shows us and one election official in Florida that the way our voting system was run and still is, has errors. 29 out of 36 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Most Recent Reviews SG 178412 23% Similar To You SG 178412's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Anyone who cares at all about the future of democracy in America (R or D or whatever else party affiliation you choose) NEEDS to see this movie. 1 out of 1 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful grw 970297 20% Similar To You grw 970297's other reviews > 5.0 Stars If our so-called government doesn't fix the problems exposed in this excellent documentary, our democracy no longer will exist. Abolish electronic voting machines!! I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Professional Bum 63% Similar To You Professional ...'s other reviews > 5.0 Stars If you are an American & have the ability to vote, please do yourself a favor and put this in your queue immediately(especially since this is an election year). This wonderful documentary proves my point that we have the best democracy that money can buy, along with our judicial system. This film is more frightening than any horror film I've seen, because THIS IS REAL! And this is movie biased? Not at all. It's an absolute eye opener that shows that your vote really doesn't count; and make sure you watch the deleted scenes(another 33 minutes of fantastic footage). 1 out of 1 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews hawk5391 58% Similar To You hawk5391's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Even though I also watched the original slasher classic Black Christmas, this was the scariest movie I saw over the Christmas break. Although the filmmakers obviously have every reason to sensationalize potential problems with electronic voting systems ("good news is no news," right?), the implications here are frightening. Not only did Bev Harris (founder of a non-partisan watchdog group) find voting machine code unprotected on the internet, she was able to successfully hack it and prove that results could be manipulated (you can watch this being done in a matter of seconds in this film). The lack of oversight of the companies who control the majority of electronic voting is astounding, almost as bad as the sloppy manner in which our government oversees the elections themselves. 10 out of 10 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Cassun 53% Similar To You Cassun's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Probably the scariest movie I've watched in a long time. The production value isn't good, but its worth sitting through to find out just how easy it would be for just one person with an agenda to manipulate the outcome of an election. 9 out of 12 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful LR 572736 43% Similar To You LR 572736's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Politics in America is scarey enough, but when you see what is going on with our elections system, you will just go through the roof. We have hoped through the last few centuries that a government of the people, by the people and for the people would not parish from the face of the earth, and that America would be its shining example. After viewing this flick, you will realize just how tarnished our example has become. We have realized in the past decades, that money rules, and it just feels like our votes don't count, only the money that backs our politicians. Only the corporations and special interests have access to the politicians these days, not the people that vote. This picture goes a long way to explaining how that happens. After realizing the truths in this documentary, I feel even more helpless and useless to change a corrupt government by my vote. Did my vote get counted? How would I even know? The facts put forth in this program are just about incredible, but you come away realizing their powerful credibility. I wondered why their hasn't been criminal prosecution of the election fraud that is running rampant in our country today? Where are prosecuters? Why aren't elections officials who ignore our right to have our votes counted, recounter and certified being placed on trial for crimes against the electorate? You owe it to yourself and your country to see this documentary long before the next election. Don't miss this one! 8 out of 9 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful CP 1799900 36% Similar To You CP 1799900's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Wow. I just finished watching this documentary, and I can't believe what I heard and saw. This is not another Michael Moore speculative film that makes assumptions with no factual evidence. This is incredible. Everyone should see this film. It is truly an amazing look inside of our election system. 8 out of 9 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review SN 25968 62% Similar To You SN 25968's other reviews > 5.0 Stars We must all see this movie. It's not JUST about elections. It's about the undermining of our society, the breakdown. My opinion is that we should get away from secret voting and out into the public. Democracy is where WE THE PEOPLE elect our officials. You must see this to know why I write this. 4 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful JR 1824621 61% Similar To You JR 1824621's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This is what makes America great: a woman, with a full life, puts it all behind her because she has come across the ultimate injustice and knows that she must right it. This is the story of the creation of the group and webpage BlackBoxVoting.com Having found the Diebold's source code, a code that not even the President of the United States can see, Bev Harris takes the code to an expert. What is revealed causes Harris to criss cross America, to prove the fact that Diebold had literally hijacked democracy. Although it's possible, it's difficult to believe that anyone can think that the 2004 Presidential Election wasn't rigged after viewing this film. A 'must see' for every American. 4 out of 4 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PW 51% Similar To You PW's other reviews > 5.0 Stars One of the scariest movies I've ever seen... because it's true. If you liked 'All the presidents men' or 'The Insider' You'll like this movie. Actually come to think of it, what this story needs is a treatment like the above mentioned movies so the message could have a broader appeal beyond this documentary. 5 out of 6 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful FV 1232392 44% Similar To You FV 1232392's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Highly recommedable as the documentary reveals what we all have been suspecting and fearing in an objective and somewhat scientific way. It is quite timely, and I think we can all relate to the topic at hand. I was touched by the reaction of some of the people in the movie when they proved how the voting system can be hacked without much effort 4 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Steve Smith 38% Similar To You Steve Smith's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Unbelievable. That's how I describe this excellent documentary. Every citizen of the USA owes it to themselves to watch this documentary. It is just shocking. It calls into question everything we know about how our votes are recorded in this country. My jaw literally dropped when I saw one part of it. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it. You MUST watch this! 4 out of 4 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Ben5765 35% Similar To You Ben5765's other reviews > 4.0 Stars This film is all about voting machines and how votes are tabulated. It makes mincemeat of the Diebold Corporation, manufacturer of a large percentage of the electronic voting machines used in the United States. It reveals Diebold officials making lie after lie about the security of their machines. The makers of the film meticulously document how, using Diebold's machines and data cards, someone with just a basic understanding of the technology involved (including, certainly, any Diebold employee) could rig the vote count, on one machine or on thousands of them, with absolutely no record that the rigging was ever done. The film also reveals how Diebold's chief executive officer was (and maybe still is) a large contributor to the Republican Party. He once wrote a letter stating that he would "deliver" Ohio's electoral votes in the 2004 presidential election for George W. Bush. The film later shows how his company managed to persuade Cuyahoga County, Ohio (where Cleveland is) to buy its machines. Maybe there is nothing fishy going on there, but appearances matter! Lest the film be seen as partisan, it features, among others, a Republican office-seeker from Louisiana who, after losing her race, went to view a demonstration of the machines that the voters used. As part of the demonstration she pressed the button next to her name, and the machine registered a vote for her opponent. Hmmm. She was understandably troubled. Moreover, the film points out that in many parts of the country it is in fact the local Republican Party that is wary of electronic voting machines, not the Democrats. Hacking Democracy also reveals problems with punch card voting systems--problems that dwarf the famous "hanging chad" problem of the 2000 presidential vote count in Florida. The film's message is distressing, but it is one all American citizens should hear and see. 5 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AdriH 34% Similar To You AdriH's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Yes, the documentary could use a bit of editing, but the points raised are valid enough to keep it interesting. Instead of taking a partisan view on the movie, realize how intensly frightening this movie really is. Should it be just one grandmother's job to inform us how we're being duped? No. It's our responsibility as citizens to stay informed and demand voting accuracy. 5 out of 7 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful DM 1548398 12% Similar To You DM 1548398's other reviews > 4.0 Stars Frightening and timely documentary that exposes the very painful truth about the U.S. electoral system and vote count fraud. A must see if you plan to vote ever! 5 out of 5 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PM 748973 — —% Similar To You PM 748973's other reviews > 5.0 Stars This presentation should be shown to every high school junior and senior. Maybe they will be able to bring about the changes needed to restore our country to what it once was. Our democratic republic is long gone. 6 out of 6 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review Lee Anne and Tim 64% Similar To You Lee Anne and ...'s other reviews > 5.0 Stars Every voter should see this film. It leaves you with your head shaking, wondering how the history of the last 8 years might read if the vote-tampering exposed in Hacking Democracy hadnt been possible. Also a testament to how one regular person can make a difference, this documentary is very well done. Youll hate what you learn. 6 out of 10 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful yla 83539 39% Similar To You yla 83539's other reviews > 5.0 Stars SA 1674508, Yazheirx, JR 65420, RS 305556, their reviews are absolutely the threat that we all have about democracy. It is because their kind of ignorance that this movie is a 5 star and a must for every single human being to watch and learn. There is no excuse for any voting system to be too technical, too complex, too secret that we cannot prove what the votes were years from when the votes were taken. Not even 50 years, not even 100 years, not even 1000 years, not ever. For anyone to suggest that the electronic voting system is not possible to understand and to do a documentary for by a handful of heroic citizens, it is an insult to this country and democracy. Let these be the commandments of election: 1) No voting methods should be more complicated than what pen/pencil can do on a ballot. 2) Vote handling in any election process should be transparent to the public no matter when, why, how, what, who. 3) Only 100% accuracy should be accepted. Anything less then 100% should be recounted no matter how many times, how long it takes, and how much it cost to be 100% accurate. 4) Without 100% accuracy, election cannot be concluded. Another election should be conducted immediately without further delay. 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful ayi 554466 35% Similar To You ayi 554466's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Factual information clearly presented. I fear it is all too true and I fear for the next election. 5 out of 8 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AL 1659593 33% Similar To You AL 1659593's other reviews > 2.0 Stars For content, I'd give it 3 stars. It was an eye-opening look at the problems at the flaws of the "touch screen" and memory card system. What turned me off was the overboard emotions and cheesy speeches from the women of the watchdog groups. 4 out of 6 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful TD 1852913 31% Similar To You TD 1852913's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I simply cannot believe this is true. I simply cannot believe the voting process is so secretive! I am still in High School and I could probably devise a system more secure than what every American trusts to count their votes! Every American owes it to themselves to watch this incredible docudrama of corporate greed, secrecy, corruption, and lies. Every American. 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful AK 817970 29% Similar To You AK 817970's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I would have to agree with everyone else in stating this a must see film for everyone. I was shocked and surprised at how poorly designed the electronic voting system is. How corrupt the political voting process is. Without this video no one would have seen the voting process. Watch this film you won't regret it. 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful jes 881880 26% Similar To You jes 881880's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Eye opening. My question is, "Why haven't criminal investigations been started?!?" I agree with the majority of the comments saying we should all see this movie; i would add it's imperative we do something with what we know after watching it. Hold our representitives accountable!!! 3 out of 3 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful KS 608754 24% Similar To You KS 608754's other reviews > 5.0 Stars If this doesn't make people realize that we need to change how our elections are held, nothing will! Republicans and Democrats should be concerned...ALL AMERICANS should be concerned and angry. If any politician does not want to fix this system, that politician needs to leave their office. 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful PD 253868 22% Similar To You PD 253868's other reviews > 5.0 Stars I believe every citizen of voting age in the United States should view this film because it is very informative on the computerized voting systems across the country. After all, if our votes don't count we have no democracy. Watch this fim and tell your family, friends and co-workers to do the same! 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful xpf 1252893 12% Similar To You xpf 1252893's other reviews > 4.0 Stars The content is compelling and if even half of it is true, our democracy is very troubled. We need to demand truth and accuracy at the polls and we need to take action NOW! 2 out of 2 people found this review helpful. Member Reviews 59 customers reviewed this movie. Write a Review DH 1154150 62% Similar To You DH 1154150's other reviews > 5.0 Stars Watch this movie. Tell your friends and family to watch this movie. The subjects are intelligent, articulate, and extremely courageous. This movie shows compelling evidence that makes me want to learn more about how easy it has been to alter the "results" of our government's elections, and ask what we can do to stop the fraud! 4 out of 7 people found this review helpful. I found this review Click to rate this review as helpful Yazheirx 57% Similar To You Yazheirx's other reviews > 2.0 Stars Like several other reviewers I wanted to like this movie but the spin and lack of solution suggestions prevented me. I agree with the need for more transparency with voting machines. I think we should have an open source voting program such that interest groups can spend their money to improve them. I still could not get past the spin. The final documentary cardinal sin for me is -

How many receipt-less voting machines are used nation-wide? Search:GEMS Diebold optical scan machines are being rigged for Bush Skull & Bones connection of Bush & Kerry: "Our Side (Race) won" Fraternity News (www.wikipedia.com_skull_and_bones) Poll Tapes thrown away - Against Federal Law (must be kept for 22 mos. by law) Hacking Democracy: Diebold (Voting Machine Software) Chairman 'promises' Vote for Ohio to G.W. Bush http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/114.html "Why weren't voting systems being tested for Security?" - I.T.A. Independent auditors of election software. Democracy: Can we trust systems that have no accountability? * With electronic voting machines tabulating more than 80 percent of the ballots cast in America, * Seattle grandmother Bev Harris set out to determine the obvious: Do they work? * Based on the evidence presented here, the answer is "not really" * The picture that emerges as Harris unearths a treasure trove of info about mishandled votes and the inner workings of the machines is that they're not only fallible but also highly vulnerable to hacking. http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/114.html * This wonderful documentary proves my point that we have the best democracy that money can buy * along with our judicial system. * This film is more frightening than any horror film I've seen, because THIS IS REAL! * And this is movie biased? * Not at all. * It's an absolute eye opener that shows that your vote really doesn't count; and make sure you watch the deleted scenes(another 33 minutes of fantastic footage). Mainstream News Reports Black Box Voting » Latest News » Mainstream News Reports « Previous Next » Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post Dean Logan Says Unaffiliated WriteIns will be Checkedchristine c reid14 1 2-15-08 10:34 am New York Times re Holt BillV. Kurt Bellman26 1 2-8-08 1:57 pm AP Incorrectly calls Missouri for ClintonBill Bowen1 1 2-7-08 8:04 am San Fran CA-KSFO-AM reports Repub registration problemsNancy Tobi9 1 2-7-08 5:49 am Massachusetts results via your friends at LHSMike LaBonte10 1 2-7-08 5:24 am NJ Voting delay included Gov. CorzineMichael W Mather2 1 2-6-08 1:17 pm (CA) 2/08 - Voting machine probs delay Sacramento countPerry Duke9 1 2-5-08 6:34 pm (FL) 1/08 - More Florida voting machine problemsHal Guentert8 1 2-2-08 7:19 pm (FL) 1/08 - Final Florida results inkaren reineke11 1 2-1-08 4:25 pm (CO) 1/15 Democrats Ask Coffman to ResignFran Fleming1 1 2-1-08 9:41 am (FL) 1/08 - Problems already with voting machinesBev Harris 1 1 1-29-08 10:08 am (CO) Paper ballots win over RitterCatherine Ansbro3 1 1-29-08 2:16 am (MI) 12/07 - Proposition for new way to do primaries NEWS: Reform pres. candidate selection processCatherine Ansbro11 1 1-29-08 2:14 am Americans Abroad Can Now Vote Onlinesam lark7 1 1-26-08 3:49 pm (SC) 1/19/08 - Problems at polling locationsts taylor4 1 1-24-08 9:16 pm Feedback appreciated as this unfolds...Bruce Sims2 1 1-24-08 1:52 pm (Ohio) ACLU files suit to block paper ballots New paper ballots ca...Roger Wood20 2 1-20-08 9:43 pm REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER: Election Fraud RoundtableV. Kurt Bellman10 1 1-18-08 7:05 am (CO) Legislators lose their confidence in CoffmanCatherine Ansbro13 1 1-17-08 4:01 pm Olbermann Report !! On Voting Sue West6 1 1-17-08 3:53 pm GOP Figure Contracted to Deliver E-Voting Machines in MarylandAlex Laflamme1 1 1-17-08 9:43 am (NH) Experts skeptical of N.H. ballot-count conspiracy theoryBill Bowen60 1 1-16-08 10:37 pm Making votes countFran Fleming2 1 1-16-08 12:00 pm Ron Paul says in regard to New Hampshire voteDavid Evans1 1 1-13-08 8:32 am Diebold Changing its Buisness name Catherine Ansbro2 1 1-12-08 5:20 am (NH) 1/08 - Man plans recount of Republican vote in N.H. primary...Russell Novkov7 1 1-11-08 11:03 pm (TX) 10/07 - Another corrupt official, election tampering Refugio County - "Trust Me" failureCatherine Ansbro4 1 1-11-08 6:47 pm (FL) 9/07 - Volusia County again -- lots of defective memory cards... Volusia County - Voting system: Incident reportsWilliam Reese2 1 1-8-08 9:19 pm (FL) 10/07 - New machines, still not enough safeguards State of Florida - Voting systems: Transition to optical scan, issuesDon Powers2 1 1-8-08 12:00 am PC Magazine Article 09/12/07Don Powers2 1 1-7-08 10:45 pm (US) Can You Count On These Machines?Bev Harris 21 1 1-7-08 6:18 pm (US) Problems At Poll Permeate U.S. Political ProcessV. Kurt Bellman76 1 1-5-08 4:57 pm Legal Voters Thrown Off RollsV. Kurt Bellman7 1 1-3-08 11:15 am CNN: On the eve of Iowa caucus, some states give e-voting an 'F'...Russell Novkov2 1 1-2-08 3:42 pm (TX) 11/07 - Wharton County GOP will use paper ballots in primary... NEWS: Follow up on vote-flipping incidentLore2 1 1-1-08 3:35 pm (KY) 10/7 - Candidate for elections chief pleads guilty to forgery... Boone County - "Trust Me" FailureKathleen Wynne49 1 12-26-07 2:49 pm (US) 12/07 - FEC doors shut, 'No one left to answer phones'...Alan Brau4 1 12-25-07 8:29 pm (CO) 12/07 - Boulder: Stray marks caused decertificationBev Harris 1 1 12-23-07 9:49 pm (CO) 12/07 - Mesa: Commission defiant on vote machines NEWS: Resisting Colorado decertificationFran Fleming5 1 12-22-07 1:34 pm (AK) 12/07 - Impossible to tell whether 2004 count correct NEWS - Follow up on AZ Dem Party litigationBev Harris 1 1 12-21-07 7:05 am (CO) 12/07 - Denver: Voting gear out for count NEWS: Colo. decertification of Sequoia Julio Edwards1 1 12-18-07 6:41 am (US) 12/07 - Congressional watch tool for citizens PRESS RELEASE: New Freedom of Information toolBev Harris 1 1 12-11-07 7:20 am (PA) 11/07 - Philadelphia: Voter Fraud Allegations Again NEWS: Absentee ballot fraud allegationsV. Kurt Bellman21 1 12-7-07 2:02 pm (NJ) 12/07 - 'We are Neanderthals' - paper trail delayed again... NEWS: New Jersey paper trail statusBobby Arnold2 1 12-6-07 3:20 am (OH) 11/07 - Franklin County: Former elections official charged... NEWS: Election official corruptionBev Harris 2 1 12-2-07 7:50 am (OH) 11/07 - Township results flipped because of error (Lawrence Co... Lawrence County: Voting systems - Incident ReportBev Harris 4 1 11-23-07 2:00 pm (CT) 11/07 - Diebold/Premier machine miscount changes winner Greenwich: Voting systems - Incident reportsCatherine Ansbro4 1 11-23-07 1:47 pm (MS) 11/07 - New election ordered for Louise Linzy race Tunica County: Election incidentsBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 9:05 pm (NH) 11/07 - It's official: Jan. 8 primary date State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-22-07 8:28 pm (CA) 11/07 - Sec. State Bowen sues ES&S for $15 million State of California: Voting systems, ES&SBev Harris 3 1 11-21-07 9:09 pm (MI) 11/07 - It's back on: Mich. primary will proceed... State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of InformationBev Harris 1 1 11-21-07 10:38 am (MI) 11/07 - Michigan primary may not happen State of Michigan: Primaries, Freedom of Information Bev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:22 pm (NH) 11/07 - Pres primary date STILL not certain State of New Hampshire: PrimariesBev Harris 1 1 11-20-07 7:06 pm (OH) 11/07 - Provisionals may alter outcome Clermont County: Provisional ballotsBev Harris 1 1 11-19-07 5:54 pm (TX) 11/07 - Alteration of live election data in Harris County... Harris County: Voting systems, "Trust Me"Russell Novkov12 1 11-15-07 9:18 pm (US) 11/07 - Sequoia voting systems under new ownership US - VendorsBev Harris 1 1 11-9-07 6:39 am (OH) 11/07 - Polls open later in ES&S location Putnam County - Voting Machines: Incident ReportsPatricia Berg1 1 11-7-07 4:34 am (FL) 10/07 - Appeals court rules The People "moot" Sarasota County - LitigationBev Harris 1 1 11-2-07 8:02 am (CT) 10/07 - Candidate's company will transport voting machines... New Britain - Chain of CustodyBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 11:22 am (IN) 10/07 - Polling locations reduced to four "vote centers"... Tippecanoe County - Access to PollsBev Harris 1 1 10-29-07 8:12 am (FL) 10/07 - Wrong Ballots Sent To Miami Absentee Voters Miami-Dade County - Absentee / Mail-in Incident ReportBrant Lamb13 1 10-22-07 11:34 am (PA) 10/07 - County replacing WinVote Lackawanna County - Voting systems: Procurement Alan Brau43 1 10-18-07 7:56 pm (US) 9/07 - E-vote industry massaging itself in the media Voting systems: Security / Chain of CustodyBev Harris 52 1 10-14-07 11:07 am (OH) 10/07 - A funeral for a presidential election State of Ohio - Compliance, enforcement issuesAlan Brau3 1 10-11-07 4:32 pm (FL) 10/07 - Peculiar excuses block accountability for primary Martin County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-11-07 7:12 am (TX) 9/07 - Hilarious but improper: video of lawmakers cheat-voting... State of Texas - Noncompliance, enforcement issues with legislator voting rulesBrant Lamb11 1 10-3-07 5:06 am (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 testing continues... Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsRussell Novkov2 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (IN) 10/07 - Belly-up vendor, in come different machines Randolph County - Voting systems: ProcurementBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:57 pm (FL) 10/07 - FL-13 report imminent Sarasota County - Voting system: Review & testing due to incident reportsBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:46 pm (US) 9/07 - If MS Excel bug = math errors, trust e-voting? US - Computer program: Incident reportBev Harris 1 1 10-2-07 7:38 pm (NC) 9/07 - The registrar's secret lair Montgomery County - Chain of custodyBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 4:12 pm (NJ) 9/07 - Judge stalls on paper trail Mercer County - Compliance issue: Resisting paper trailBev Harris 1 1 10-1-07 3:46 pm (US) 9/07 - Less than 1/2 of military overseas votes counted US - Absentee / mail-in voting: Incidents, access problemsBev Harris 6 1 9-30-07 3:17 pm (GA) 9/07 - What's the punishment for throwing out 93,000 voter reg... Fulton County - Chain of custody / Privacy protection issuesBev Harris 1 1 9-28-07 9:12 am (US) 9/07 - Gird for massive new voting machine purchases: New stan... US - Voting systems: Standards, certification, procurementBrant Lamb16 1 9-27-07 5:02 am (PA) 9/07 County Commissioners' Assocation Opposes HR811 State of Pennsylvania - LegislationSamuel Scharff32 1 9-24-07 11:29 pm (CT) 9/07 - Voting rights activists express disappointment at CT s... State of Connecticut - Voting systems: Security Catherine Ansbro2 1 9-22-07 6:36 pm (NV) 9/07 - County to "prove Sequioa machines are secure"... Washoe County - Voting systems: SecurityBev Harris 1 1 9-22-07 9:43 am (IL) 9/07 - Indictment: Teamster Union vote rigging Teamster's Union [Chicago] - "Trust Me" failureBev Harris 1 1 9-8-07 4:48 pm (US) 2007 National news archive (see state foru... 130 24 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2006 National news archive (see state foru... 482 60 10-11-07 12:25 pm (US) 2005 National news archive (see state foru... 310 152 10-11-07 12:24 pm (US) 2004 National news archive (see state forums for state news)... 77 42 10-11-07 12:24 pm Start New Thread http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/1954.html Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post 2-5-08: What to watch for -- and do -- during & after Super Power T...allenfly15 1 2-12-08 12:32 am 1-29-08: Citizen's Guide to Following Vote Transport VehiclesJoel Morine31 1 2-10-08 7:18 am 1-29-08: Questions unfolding throughout New HampshireB Lindsey57 1 2-12-08 5:53 pm 1-24-08: Now posting - New Hampshire video evidenceNancy Tobi47 1 1-31-08 6:59 am 1-20-08: Holes hidden in plain sightCatherine Ansbro77 1 1-27-08 11:24 am 1-17-08: Ballot boxes found slit; NH stops putting ballots in vault; christine c reid264 1 2-13-08 8:21 pm 1-16-08: How New Hampshire is sizing upBrant Lamb172 1 2-4-08 4:39 am 1-15-08: Can recount chain of custody be rescued?Michael W Mather29 1 1-17-08 9:02 pm 1-12-08: Red Flags over New HampshireBrant Lamb153 1 1-22-08 4:41 am 1-10-08: Kucinich stepping into trap with recount?Catherine Ansbro138 1 1-15-08 12:56 pm 1-9-08: New England voting machine firm has executive criminal recordrush40 1 1-17-08 8:37 am 1-7-08: Silvestro the Cat & New Hampshire ElectionsBrett Woodward161 1 1-14-08 11:36 am 1-4-08: Eh? Iowa Republicans STILL missing 65 precincts in resultsJoel Morine41 1 1-9-08 4:04 am 1-3-08: What to do! Iowa Caucus instructions for everyoneChism Haworth26 1 1-4-08 3:09 pm 12-30-07: New problems identified with Iowa caucuses!David Luebbers48 1 1-13-08 4:16 am 12-14-07: UPDATE on Iowa Caucus ProceduresBev Harris 14 1 1-1-08 7:21 pm 11-29-07: MOONSHINE AMERICA – Collapse of the "Trust Me" modelJohn Dean15 1 1-13-08 1:06 pm 11-12-07: Unauthorized vote alterations on Texas iVotronic voting m...Bev Harris 8 1 11-16-07 4:06 pm 10-4-07: Connecticut Mayoral Scuffle Bev Harris 8 1 10-11-07 2:40 pm 9-19-07: Moonshine Elections 2 - Family Run GovermentJim March3 1 9-26-07 12:54 am 9-6-07: Moonshine Elections - The Hunt for Joe BoltonCatherine Ansbro15 1 9-14-07 9:36 pm 8-14-07: Moonshine Elections - Kentucky seriesBev Harris 4 1 9-14-07 7:38 am 8-3-07: California Decertifies, Boots InkaVote out of L.A. for goodBev Harris 15 1 8-6-07 1:31 pm 7-30-07: An Open Letter to Calif. Secretary of State BowenMark E. Smith18 1 8-7-07 9:33 am 7-17-07: HBO film on secret vote counting gets Emmy nominationRussell Novkov2 1 7-17-07 8:12 pm 7-13-07: Riverside proud to be dropped from "Top 2 Worst Places to ...Bev Harris 1 1 7-13-07 12:20 pm 7-12-07: California court may punish county for election records de...Russell Novkov2 1 7-12-07 9:04 pm 7-5-07: Debate w. a Chair #3: Will new elections "audits" help or h...Brant Lamb187 1 8-2-07 4:24 am 7-2-07: A preview on the audit debateV. Kurt Bellman62 1 7-7-07 1:39 pm 6-29-07: Debate with a Chair #2: Is no bill worse than a flawed bill?Udar Koschka35 2 7-21-07 6:04 am 6-28-07: Debate with a Chair (Part 1)Catherine Ansbro33 1 10-14-07 9:56 am 6-25-07: New Hampshire Sec. State rebukes attack on NH campaign fin...Bruce Sims12 1 6-27-07 10:39 am 6-10-07: Kucinich abandons support; for Holt Bill HR 811Catherine Ansbro13 1 6-24-07 2:30 am 5-30-07: (Calif.) The Voting Rights Obstacle Course - And the winne...Tom Courbat12 1 6-2-07 11:25 am 5-17-07: You have 2 weeks to restore your inalienable right to kic...Brant Lamb42 1 6-5-07 5:12 am 5-11-07: Uh-Oh -- HAMMERTIME! John C. Ervin12 1 6-14-07 2:54 am 5-8-07: U.S. Experiment Ready to Sail (Holt Bill out of committee)...Brant Lamb4 1 5-11-07 12:28 pm 4-9-07: Two voting products combine to steal your political privacyJohn Washburn23 1 4-26-07 2:13 pm 3-27-07 - Elections give you: The judge, the prosecutor and the she...Bev Harris 49 1 6-7-07 6:32 am 3-14-07: Riverside Rides Again ...Bev Harris 7 1 4-9-07 8:13 pm 3-9-07: The Black Box Voting Web site is changingVickie Karp16 1 3-21-07 6:03 am 2-20-07: Voting machines as a Ponzi SchemeBev Harris 77 1 3-16-07 3:48 pm 2-14-07: America's Funny Valentine - What is this romance with mach...Troy Seman2 1 2-15-07 12:14 pm 2-13-07: Agreement among groups as to Essential Revisions to HR 811Bob Roberts15 2 3-2-07 9:44 pm 2-8-07: Beware of the Bandwagon -- A concise list of problems with ...John C. Ervin12 1 2-14-07 5:48 pm 2-7-07: The Vu Memos - Cuyahoga Elections Director conversations wi...Catherine Ansbro5 1 2-8-07 2:01 pm 2-7-07: Son of Holt Bill: TechnoElection Dream Come True (But is it...Catherine Ansbro22 1 2-10-07 6:14 pm 2-6-07: New Rush Holt Bill Bev Harris4 1 2-6-07 10:42 am 2-5-07: Convicted Ohio elections workers ask for new trialKathleen Wynne6 1 2-6-07 7:38 am 2-1-07: Arizona computer logs show cheat-peeks at results, days bef...Gentry Lange4 1 3-16-07 8:43 am 1-30-07: HAVA -- The road to Boondoggle was paved with good intenti...Brant Lamb18 1 2-5-07 5:13 am 1-24-07: Two Ohio election workers found guilty; supervisors get of...Brant Lamb19 1 1-31-07 7:40 am 1-22-07: Diebold voting machines cost $2,000 more (each) in New Ham...Bev Harris4 1 1-29-07 9:09 am 1-20-07: Reports from the front lines - Kathleen Wynne video 'Best ...Kathleen Wynne7 1 1-21-07 3:39 pm 1-9-07: Vendor issues raised in Ohio, New HampshireBev Harris3 1 1-10-07 2:55 pm 12-30-06: Sign the REQUEST BY VOTERS --- Dear American Patriot, Samuel Scharff21 1 1-12-07 1:44 pm 12-22-06: Let's get down to the root of the problem: Freedom of Acc...Bev Harris1 1 12-22-06 3:23 pm 12-5-06: Government rejects NIST recommendations for paper trailCatherine Ansbro25 1 12-9-06 1:32 pm 11-22-06: ES&S serves up a Texas Turkey - Voting system stuffed wit...Greg Bodovsky15 1 12-13-06 7:43 pm 11-21-06: ES&S problem hit 34 counties in TexasBrant Lamb7 1 2-15-07 5:50 am 11-20-06: Black Box Voting receives new legal threats from ES&SJeffrey Ortiz21 1 12-13-06 7:34 pm 11-14-06: Arizona manual audit a farceDan Oetting9 1 11-18-06 2:39 pm 11-13-06: Sarasota! Florida! Never doubt that a small group of comm...Pat Vesely19 1 11-22-06 11:26 pm 11-13-06: Yes, the files on Slashdot are legit.Bev Harris23 1 11-27-06 6:48 am 11-9-06: A quick update on doingsBob Dean15 2 11-14-06 6:08 am 11-8-06: Rumsfeld replacement (Robert Gates) was director of voting...Bev Harris 93 2 1-6-08 8:49 am 11-8-06: The Sarasota Anomaly: Some say this is a smoking gun:Catherine Ansbro18 1 11-19-06 3:11 am 11-8-06: Black Box Voting to help citizens audit VIRGINIARoberta McKnight19 1 11-10-06 5:36 pm 11-7-06: What to expect -- and look for -- in the 2006 electionJanine L. Busald8 1 11-9-06 1:09 am 11-6-06: Ohio professor facing retaliatory (criminal) charges for a...Catherine Ansbro10 1 11-14-06 6:07 am 11-2-06: HBO "Hacking Democracy" to air tonight -- REVIEWSChipman Budlong71 7 11-11-06 12:23 pm 10-31-06: Reports from the front lines -- Citizens find critical se...suzanne warden15 1 11-6-06 7:10 am 10-27-06: Absentee voting is NOT advisable; Problems, things you sh...Gentry Lange17 2 3-16-07 8:54 am 10-15-06: Now we're getting somewhere -- Congressional hand counted...k.c.10 1 11-3-06 6:11 pm 10-6-06: 'The sheer number of legal/security violations is horrifyi...Jim March2 1 10-9-06 10:48 am 10-1-06: One on One with Cynthia McKinney -- Evidence, procedural p...Bev Harris7 1 10-10-06 9:56 am 9-27-06: Riverside California - One of the "Top 2" WORST PLACES TO ...Ginny Ross7 1 9-28-06 6:55 am 9-25-06: One-on-One - Allegan County Michigan citizens uncover issuesCatherine Ansbro7 1 9-27-06 2:52 pm 9-13-06: Paper Ballots Gaining Momentum - Court Decision, New Guide...John Heath5 1 10-2-06 5:55 pm 9-12-06: Election problems in the Sept. 12 primariesBev Harris1 1 9-12-06 12:12 pm 8-31-06: Stoopidest Sleepover Security Ever: Black Box Voting blows...V. Kurt Bellman19 1 9-20-06 12:00 pm 8-28-06: One-on-One -- Witness to vote-flipping: What should I do?Brian S16 2 11-7-06 4:49 pm 8-14-06: One on One Advice Comes Alive: How to stage an eventLinda Franz2 1 8-14-06 9:08 pm 8-11-06: One-on-One Advice Comes Alive Brant Lamb12 1 8-15-06 4:26 am 8-1-06: NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOUR 2 CENTS: Citizen Tool Kit to Take ...Dan Oetting73 2 8-26-06 5:42 pm 7-31-06: Georgia, Maryland Touch-screens -- New security defect evi...Jim March19 1 8-2-06 12:39 pm 7-27-06: Expensive, Insecure, Illegal, Unqualified and UnauditedRon Hammar12 2 8-26-06 4:32 pm 7-21-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Cuyahoga B.o.E. members call for Director ...John Washburn26 1 8-5-06 10:40 am 7-18-06: Georgia Election Malfunctions - Gird yourself for action, ...Brant Lamb24 1 9-5-06 4:46 am 7-17-06: The World's Quietest News Story: Kennedy Files Voting Mach...Linda Rogers4 1 7-29-06 9:07 am 7-10-06: Kentucky litigation - 'When computers fear jail, they'll b...Jenny L. Hurley6 1 7-12-06 8:37 am 07-08-06: Citizen Oversight - Pay Special Attention to Missing ItemsJody Holder19 1 7-12-06 4:20 pm 7-04-06: Black Box Voting's Declaration of IndependenceBev Harris19 1 7-15-06 1:40 pm Fourth of July Fireworks: Unredacted Hursti reports, photos releasedBrant Lamb44 1 7-12-06 5:20 am 6-27-06: Whatever happens in Utah elections - Capture on camera, audioV. Kurt Bellman11 1 6-29-06 10:44 am 6-26-06: The ultimate insult: Paper ballots entered into touch-screensTom Courbat16 1 6-28-06 1:42 pm 6-22-06: A 'Plan B' for voting machines: The National Hand Count Re...Bev Harris7 1 6-24-06 11:43 am 6-15-06: Solutions through citizen oversightBrant Lamb52 1 7-25-06 7:19 pm 6-12-06: Trouble seeks trouble - King County elections chief goes t...Tom Courbat8 1 6-21-06 6:08 pm 6-6-06: Hear the train a'comin' , Comin' round the bendBrant Lamb12 1 6-9-06 10:14 am 6-5-06: Citizens -- Here's how to watchdog electionBev Harris13 1 6-6-06 12:37 pm 5-23-06: Supplmental report adds new concerns to Hursti IIBev Harris51 1 7-1-06 10:49 am 5-19-06: Substitute 'L' for 'D' - Diebold claims Utah tests failed...Kathleen Wynne16 1 6-27-06 6:26 am 5-11-06: Three-level security flaws found in Diebold touch-screensRobert Sawdey182 1 6-7-06 11:52 am 5-10-06: Update on TSx reportCatherine Ansbro5 1 5-11-06 4:47 pm 5-10-06: As the Emery County findings evolve: Diebold's and Georgia...Joseph Hall5 1 5-11-06 2:15 pm 5-9-06: The Ohio Election BackwashAdele Eisner34 1 8-2-06 3:26 pm 5-4-06: Touch-screens fail security tests, Diebold retaliatessuhkara a yahweh`16 1 5-9-06 9:15 pm 5-4-06: Your chance to get evidence: WV, NE, KY, OR, PABev Harris1 1 5-4-06 9:13 am 5-2-06: Is the 2006 election train still on its tracks?John Washburn26 1 5-12-06 3:29 pm 4-24-06: Diebold whistleblower Stephen Heller compared to Daniel El...Russell Novkov2 1 4-24-06 3:06 pm 4-13-06: Last transcript - Calif. ITA hearings.John Washburn3 1 4-14-06 9:20 am 4-8-06: Why the Rush Holt bill (H.B. 550) is dangerousJonathan104 1 5-16-06 2:46 am 4-6-06: Utah Lt. Governor's office admits: some Diebold serial numb...ed hill32 1 4-10-06 7:24 pm 4-5-06: Transcript: Wyle Labs thinks Hursti Hack means 'the system ...John Washburn11 1 4-6-06 7:59 am 4-4-06: More Voting Machine Test Lab TranscriptsBev Harris12 1 4-6-06 11:32 pm 4-3-06: ALERT - elections officials: Diebold making 'visits' to you...Bruce Sims5 1 4-4-06 11:08 am 3-31-06: Bravissima! Calif. Senate Elections Committee grills two ...Catherine Ansbro28 1 4-12-06 1:59 pm 3-29-06: FL Attorney General Hits Voting Machine Vendors With Inves...Bev Harris4 1 3-30-06 10:39 am 3-28-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold attempts to explain TSx memory def...Bev Harris34 1 4-3-06 9:17 am 03-18-06: BBV EXCLUSIVE - Diebold TSx touch-screen study (Part I)...Joseph Hall50 1 4-7-06 10:29 am 3-17-2006: New Black Box Voting report to be issued on Diebold TSx ...Jody Holder11 1 3-19-06 11:34 pm 3-11-06: The Stephen Heller Legal Defense FundJohn Washburn6 1 3-12-06 8:23 pm 3-8-06: Ion Sancho pits his lawyers against DieboldPat Vesely10 1 3-14-06 2:02 pm 3-3-06: While Florida vindicates Ion Sancho, Jeb Bush threatens Sa...Daniel R Spak29 1 3-19-06 5:45 pm 2-28-06: Take action NOW: Bullies pounding on whistleblowerRobert Sawdey11 1 3-9-06 5:47 pm 2-23-06: Someone accessed 40 Palm Beach County voting machines Nov ...Bev Harris110 1 3-9-06 7:30 am 2-21-06: An open letter to Bruce McPherson and the citizens of the ...Joycelynn Straight22 1 2-27-06 9:01 pm 2-17-06: BREAKING: Calif. Sec. State certifies entire Diebold produ...Bev Harris52 1 4-3-06 10:20 am 2-17-06: Election family tree: Who got us into this and how did the...Catherine Ansbro4 1 3-30-06 10:40 am 2-11-06: Voting machine examiners chickening out on Senate investig...Ron Crane24 1 2-18-06 1:27 pm 2-6-06: Landes takes e-voting to Supreme CourtV. Kurt Bellman24 1 4-19-06 10:33 am 2-6-06: Diebold agrees to waive proprietary claims to GEMS database...Marian Beddill12 1 2-11-06 1:38 pm 2-5-06: What protects your personal information once it enters e-el...Paul Lehto70 1 7-21-06 1:17 pm 2-2-06: Embezzler Jeff Dean remote accessed Calif. counties for 200...Kathleen Wynne4 1 2-2-06 8:38 am 2-1-06: Voting system examiners blocked from telling what they know?Byron Hale21 1 2-6-06 3:16 am 1-31-06: Diebold anticipates $100 to $125 million in 2006 voting sy...Bev Harris1 1 1-31-06 8:56 am 1-26-06: Elections Programmer Jeff Dean worked for same firm as for...Bev Harris25 1 1-27-06 12:45 pm 1-24-06: Public Records Get The Big Chill: Alaska's Voters vs Diebo...Jim March5 1 1-31-06 2:29 pm 1-13-06: ES&S reneges on Leon County deal 2 days before HAVA deadl...Catherine Ansbro33 1 1-17-06 1:20 am 1-9-2006: DuPage County Elections paid $30,000 to Republican politi...Bev Harris12 1 2-3-06 8:20 am 1-5-06: Wisconsin moves toward public source, then guts itJohn Washburn10 1 1-5-06 4:21 pm 1-3-2006: Hold on to your lugnuts, ES&S and Sequoia may risk Hurst...Brant Lamb33 1 1-25-06 4:56 am 12-30-05: Roll up your sleeves, we ain't done yet!BBV Admin1 1 12-30-05 4:26 pm 12-28-2005: Pennsylvania declines some Diebold but reveals an odd biasArnold Peckerman24 1 12-31-05 2:17 pm 12-23-05: ES&S under fire in CaliforniaEdward Robles5 1 12-26-05 5:36 am 12-20-05: California 'Hack' test stalled as Diebold certification d...Brant Lamb116 1 1-25-06 1:27 pm 12-13-05: Devastating hack proven - Leon County dumps DieboldSamuel Scharff97 1 5-29-06 9:25 pm 12-9-05: Diebold hack test -- Sec. State / Black Box lawyer square offJim March6 1 12-12-05 3:01 pm 12-7-05: Diebold stockholder suit - here's some ammoJim March7 1 12-8-05 9:37 am 12-4-05: 'Leave it up to us, we know best' say officialsBBV Admin27 2 12-15-05 4:17 am 11-30-05: Nope, the hack test won't be todayCatherine Ansbro25 1 1-3-06 12:51 am 11-28-05: Latest on California hack situationBruce Sims45 1 11-30-05 4:40 pm 11-24-05: Turkey Day leftovers: No thanks for stuffing elections wi...Edward Robles2 1 11-27-05 7:55 am 11-23-05: Flag on the play - Calif. Sec. State official calls foul ...Catherine Ansbro17 1 11-29-05 10:18 am 11-22-05: California invites Black Box Voting to hack Diebold votin...John Washburn31 1 12-9-05 8:23 am 11-22-2005: Updates on felons - Jeffrey Dean and John ElderBBV Admin7 1 11-22-05 9:37 am 11-21-05: Diebold violates court orderBBV Admin10 1 11-28-05 8:27 am 11-18-05: Fasten your seatbelts - It's time to bring this thing in ...Edward Robles7 1 11-27-05 9:12 am 11-15-05: FEC Investigating rapper P. Diddy (but not Blackwell or M...Edward Robles5 1 11-27-05 9:16 am 11-13-05: Detroit, Michigan elections are now a significant concernBBV Admin11 1 11-23-05 5:16 am 11-9-05: Los Angeles County has the dog & pony show downEdward Robles2 1 11-27-05 9:33 am 11-8-05: Share your observations on voting today hereKathleen Wynne10 1 11-10-05 9:15 am 11-6-05: Two state elections heads resign in FloridaBBV Admin6 1 11-6-05 5:11 am 11-4-05: Mail-in votes at higher risk with Diebold systemsBBV Admin1 1 11-4-05 8:00 am 11-3-05: The first public examination under the 15004 lawJohn Washburn5 1 11-6-05 6:41 am 10-28-05: Blackwell Blunders on Voting Machine ExaminationJohn Washburn14 1 10-31-05 11:23 am 10-26-05: The 'Perimeter Defense' - Follies and FailuresBBV Admin7 1 10-31-05 3:57 pm 10-21-05: GAO & NIST - Voting machine security finally goes mainstr...From the Mailbag10 1 10-29-05 11:39 am 10-9-05: VotoScope audit tool will catch Hart Intercivic bugBev Harris22 1 10-12-05 1:06 pm 10-8-05: Investors considering Diebold class action suitBev Harris1 1 10-8-05 3:08 pm 10-5-05: Diebold Lies Move Up the LadderBev Harris5 1 10-8-05 3:21 pm 9-19-2005: Carter-Baker Panel Report: Proposed Reforms Miss the BoatBrad Friedman52 1 10-3-05 12:02 pm 9-10-2005: Here's your chance to 'Look inside the Black Box':...alex baxter21 1 11-1-05 4:23 am 9-7-2005: Digital Image ballot scanners -- good or bad?Brant Lamb19 1 10-5-05 4:41 am 8-25-2005: Voting Rights Act expiration 2007Admin3 1 8-25-05 9:56 am 8-15-05: Election Reform -- Impending ShuffleCatherine_a107 1 8-25-05 1:51 pm 8-13-2005: If this doesn't get your blood boiling...Ubetchaiam9 1 8-15-05 11:24 am 8-10-2005: Mississippi Paper Trail ImminentCatherine Ansbro18 1 12-14-05 2:47 am 8-9-2005: Exactly what we don't want: Our election on Diebold's ser...John Howard13 1 10-5-05 8:20 pm 8-8-2005: Arcata, (CA) seeks to wrest election control from corpora...jimmarch6 1 8-12-05 12:33 am 8-5-05: 'Think Outside the Black Box' - ONLINE THINK TANK Admin5 1 8-17-05 7:46 am 8-3-05: San Diego backs down on charges against BBV director Jim MarchUbetchaiam32 1 8-22-05 12:01 pm 7-29-2005: Mississippi, listen up: California just rejected the TSxadmin17 1 8-13-05 8:15 pm 7-28-05: In his own words: Jim March on taking back his civil rightsmymarkx11 1 7-29-05 11:46 am 7-26-2005: BBV Board Member Arrested in San Diego for Viewing Vote-...cleanbean63 1 7-29-05 4:17 pm 7-25-2005: Wondering about mail-in voting? Diebold's new VoteRemote...Catherine Ansbro28 1 3-30-06 12:43 pm 7-21-2005: ES&S, Diebold lobbyists had ties to bribery investigatio...mary_ann9 1 7-31-05 12:00 am 7-20-2005: Internal documents reveal more Diebold ethics problemsadmin4 1 7-20-05 7:24 am 7-18-2005: Are The Lights Going Out In Georgia?admin5 1 7-22-05 3:14 pm 7-17-2005: Gallina (Diebold) reportedly paid Blackwell, GOP cronies...admin1 1 7-17-05 12:07 pm 7-11-2005: Case Against Diebold and Florida Division of Electionskathleen_wynne3 1 7-13-05 9:32 am 7-4-2005: The Black Box ReportJohn Dean36 1 5-8-06 6:05 pm 7-3-2005: Diebold accounting mistake -- SEC stuff may be a biggieadmin11 1 7-4-05 10:58 pm 7-1-2005: July 4 Security Alert for Diebold Optical Scanscatherine_a17 1 7-5-05 1:29 am 6-24-2005: Black Box Voting Litigation Fund LaunchedBev Harris2 1 2-3-06 8:22 am 6-17-05: Report on Calif. meeting -- Decertify Diebold?ubetchaiam11 1 7-21-05 2:37 pm 6-8-2005: Palm Beach County fails auditlinda_franz7 1 6-15-05 8:29 am 5-27-05: Optical scan system hacked (3 ways) - BBV ExclusiveBrant Lamb73 1 8-9-06 11:06 am 5-9-05: Consumer Report Series -- Following the Money Trail – Part Iadmin1 1 5-9-05 3:18 pm 5-6-04: $45m (Diebold?) contract flying under radar in Cook County ...admin2 1 5-6-05 2:53 pm 5-11-05: CANCELLED - Call to action May 19, Sacramentoadmin1 1 5-6-05 11:05 am 5-04-05 – Easier Hacking Access Sneaks in w. ADA Compliance Measuresadmin1 1 5-4-05 9:25 pm 4-24-05: LA's InkaVote system tied to Malaysian gambling outfitadmin1 1 4-24-05 12:43 pm 4-20-2005: Paper trail advocates - The devil in the detailsadmin1 1 4-20-05 11:54 am 4-18-2005: Diebold Lobbyist Documents Reveal Problemsadmin1 1 4-18-05 9:54 am 3-8-2005: Hack of Real-Life Voting System Demonstratedadmin1 1 3-9-05 12:51 pm 2-22-2005: Activating the Eagles -- Events this weekend in Californiaadmin1 1 2-22-05 5:08 pm 2-21-2005: Snohomish County (WA) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 4:51 pm 2-21-2005: Orange County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:57 pm 2-21-2005: Broward County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 12:14 pm 2-21-2005: Palm Beach County (FL) updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 11:04 am 2-21-2005: Volusia County (FL) Updateadmin1 1 2-21-05 7:02 am 2-1-2005: Black Box Voting donates $2000 to Ohio lawyersadmin1 1 2-1-05 2:51 pm 1-28-05: Eagles rolling up sleeves in Ohio, Florida, Californiaadmin1 1 1-28-05 6:30 am 1-20-05: BULLETIN: California Panel OKs Voter Privacy Removaladmin1 1 1-20-05 6:05 pm 1-18-05: Consumer Protection lawsuit activated against Dieboldadmin1 1 1-19-05 4:43 am 1-17-05: Black Box Voting Document Archiveadmin1 1 1-17-05 1:42 pm 1-10-05: Exposing the Crypto Solutionadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:20 am 1-6-05: Constitutional Equal Protection Amendment for Voters?admin1 1 1-11-05 6:15 am 1-5-05: Election Misconduct as a Public Records Crisisadmin1 1 1-11-05 6:10 am 1-5-05: Update from Washington D.C.admin1 1 1-11-05 6:01 am 12-30-2004: Volunteer Actions -- Activating the Eaglesadmin1 1 1-11-05 5:50 am 12-29-04: Update on 'Help America Audit'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:44 am 12-28-04: Update for donors, and a look to 2005admin1 1 1-11-05 5:35 am 11-18-2004: Volunteer actions -- How to 'Be the Media'admin1 1 1-11-05 5:56 am Start New Thread Mainstream News Reports Black Box Voting » Latest News » Mainstream News Reports « Previous Next » Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post Dean Logan Says Unaffiliated WriteIns will be Checkedchristine c reid14 1 2-15-08 10:34 am New York Times re Holt BillV. 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