How to prove welfare fraud - do I have enough evidence?
My ex hasn't paid child support and went on welfare to get out of his obligations. Now the state is coming after my wages to pay back his welfare and food stamps that he's receiving. He works under the table, and he is married but claims he doesn't live with his wife. He does live with her, as my child tells me that they do live together. He always drives her car because he doesn't have one, he has pictures of himself working (he posted these on facebook) and a whole client list, he has no bank accounts, and on the days when my ex has my child (we share custody), his wife signs off on his homework. How do I prove welfare fraud and do I have enough evidence?
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- if he is a democrat campaign donor, you could go to jail. if he is a republican campaign supporter he could go to jail.
- You aren't responsible for his debts once divorced. You can certainly report the evidence you have as proof he is working,and married. Its his present wife, if they are legally married that they would need to pursue.
- Hmm, you're in an awkward spot. Several issues, some related. The child support is something that involves three parties- you, him, and the family court. He's obligated to pay that, period, full stop. If he doesn't pay, you can make him appear in family court to explain why he's not paying. He might be full of "I'm not working, I have no money" answers, but that won't get him off the child support hook. He might be facing jail time for non-payment. (Probably he'll have some time to make it up, and then a warrant might be issued.) The next issue is your local welfare chasing you for his benefits. Assuming he is, in fact, your "ex husband," the final decree terminated your financial responsibility for his acts. Better read your final decree one more time for hints there. But you can also get a lot of info if you go to the welfare office for clarification. Might help to take your divorce decree with you. If he's committed some sort of welfare and food stamp fraud, that should be his responsibility, not yours. Some details seem irrelevant- being married to another woman, but not living with her? Is this the justification for going after you for his welfare and food stamp payments? In this matter, citing the testimony of your child seems very inadequate. "My minor child says Dad is living with his new wife." That doesn't carry much weight, sorry. FB pictures of him on the job are a bit thin, but might be a place for the welfare folks to begin. Still, photos might indicate he did work, not that he got paid. Big difference, right? You need evidence that you can take to court beyond a FB photo. If he's getting paid in cash, this might be a problem. The business of bank accounts can be resolved in family court. An additional financial disclosure will be Topic One when he has to go to court for back child support. He'll have to sign (under perjury) that the disclosure is complete and accurate. Wouldn't be bad for his new legal wife to participate in the disclosure, but that might be up to the judge. Signing off on the homework seems to be of little merit. Does that "prove" they're living together? Ah, maybe. But his housing situation isn't really the key- it's his income and his back child support. So focus on what you need, not on emotional, ancillary concerns. Not sure what he's trying to accomplish with you. "I don't live with my wife, so don't go after me for back child support" seems very pointless. And catching him in this lie doesn't resolve what you need- child support and the welfare/food stamps folks off your back. One more comment- *you* don't have to prove welfare fraud. The welfare folks have to prosecute. And it's doubtful they'll prosecute enough to put him in jail. They may cut him off, and send him a bill. They do have the ability to freeze his bank account (useless here, right?), attach his tax returns (something you might consider, with the help of family court), and threaten him with a warrant (well beyond your authority). You don't need evidence, unless he forged your signature on the welfare application. But that's something you can resolve with the welfare agency, not through your ex. So- check with welfare about your obligation to pay his debts (seems very wrong to me), and with the family court about getting him to pay his back child support. Focus. If signing homework makes a difference, use what you have, but work forwards, not backwards. "I'm entitled to child support because his new wife signed homework" doesn't make any sense. KK, hope you get everything resolved. Good luck!!
- You are a liar. 1. There is no "food stamp" program. It changed to SNAP in 2006. 2. no one EVER has to repay welfare or SNAP. 3. they wouldn't force an EX-spouse to repay even if they did want repayment. 4. There is no welfare of any kind for able-bodied people without kids. You MUST be elderly, disabled, or have kids to get TANF. What is the point of posting this crap?
- Pay no attention to the idiot underneath my post. Welfare and Food Stamp fraud is a crime and a person may be required to pay back every dime they collected. Those photographs aren't going to do you a bit of good but I would copy and save them along with the client list anyway. There's no way you can prove when those pics were taken or if the list is current. Facebook and a child's word are not evidence of fraud. Why are you involved in this to begin with? He is married to someone else isn't he? I don't care whether he lives with her or not. Something here doesn't make a lick of sense.
- try to gain sole custody of your child as he is financially unable to meet the child's needs.then move to another state.
- You do not need "proof"...... If you suspect welfare fraud.....or any other crime.....as a citizen it is your responsibility to report those suspicions to the appropriate authorities.....it is THEIR job to gather evidence and prosecute if warranted The less you are directly involved the better...... take your suspicions / proof to the authorities
- It isn't up to you to provide the evidence; it is up to the agency making the payments. Your only duty is to report what he's doing.
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