From: J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu> Date: Mon Mar 31 2008 - 01:18:05 EDT From J. Paul Robinson - Moderator Robert is right - there is too much politics and not enough science... What is happening here, is that there are too many cooks. Let me make it very clear that we work hard to keep this list clean. It does not always work. When we identify a failure, we usually respond to the person concerned and don't waste all your time. We frequently note in our posts, that advertising is not allowed. This list was developed from 2 or 3 individuals who actually had email in 1990, to 3000 over the past 19 years. It did not happen by chance, nor was it overnight. It was developed with a lot of cost ($$$), a lot of time, and what was a pretty darned good idea when it started. We don't tolerate people who try to damage the list. Now that it's highly successful, there are a number of individuals that are trying to either circumvent the list, use it for their own purposes, or simply sideline it. There are even some proposing that they should be able to manipulate the list and its contents in any forum for any purpose. I am really shocked at this rather callous approach to a scientific discussion board. I am not making public those individuals or their companies, but if I am pushed, I will identify them publicly. If I do so, and they create havoc, it could shut the list down - or end up in a nasty legal battle. I don't suppose that would be popular? So, it seems to me, that we need to get back to basics and focus on the reason this list has been so successful (and why you all want to use it for advertising - or even why those who what to hijack it...) - it does a good if not great job overall. thanks for your support - all 3000 of you ...well most of you! Clearly we will provide a mechanism for companies to provide a means for communication....it's on our list... Maybe I am getting too old for all this abuse....! regards Paul Robinson Purdue University Robert J. Palmer Jr. wrote: http://digg.com/politics/Highlights_of_the_XXII_2004_ISAC_Congress_6_OF_7_OUR_TEAM The answer is in the ABOVE LINK