okay i've searched and tried everything, so now I think I'm gonna go insane. Here's what I've done:: Click Insert Menu -> Select Break -> Select Next Page from section break type 4th page where i want page # 1 to show up i click: Click View menu -> Select Header and footer Click Insert menu-> Select Page Number Clicked on the FORMAT button on this small dialog. then clicked on the radio button Start At and give 1 (one) as the starting page number so now I have my fourth page listed as #1 which is perfect... however ALL THE FOLLOWING PAGES DONT HAVE ANYTHING IN THE FOOTER. any help is appreciated